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Category:Vegetation templates

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:49, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I propose upmerging the only template in the category – Template:Vegetation – into the parent category Botany navigational boxes. —⁠andrybak (talk) 23:49, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Stanley Cup Finals

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:13, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This may qualify as WP:C2D in response to Talk:Stanley Cup Final#RfC/RM on "Final" vs "Finals" (discussion can be seen here), though this request was challenged by one editor. Left guide (talk) 22:35, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Neomexicano slave owners

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:50, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category and it's not clear to me that this intersection is defining given that there is no Category:Neomexicano people. SMasonGarrison 22:17, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison What happened to the other people in the category? Somebody emptied it. It would be worth finding out why before this category is deleted. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 17:37, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect that JPL removed them [2] SMasonGarrison 20:00, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@User:Johnpacklambert If so, what was the reason for removal? Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 02:36, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mister World templates

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:50, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This template category only has onetwo templates in it SMasonGarrison 20:57, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Proto-punk groups

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:50, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge newly created category into previously existing category. Gjs238 (talk) 20:03, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Monarchs of Epirus

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Heads of state of former countries. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:52, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant layer (0 P, 1 C). NLeeuw (talk) 18:49, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Croatian monarchs

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:52, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Same scope. Parents Category:People of medieval Croatia, Category:Heads of state of Croatia, Category:Heads of state of former countries indicate per WP:C2C the name should be of Croatia. NLeeuw (talk) 18:42, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Serb families

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:53, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Manually merge per WP:NARROWCAT, WP:OVERLAPCAT. The only child categories not already in Category:Serbian families are:
The only articles not already in Category:Serbian families are:
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Category:Albanian monarchs

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 July 20#Category:Albanian monarchs


Category:Annenberg

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:55, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think we should rename this to Annenberg Foundation and purge it so it avoids the pitfall of being a category of things named after the Category:Annenberg family SMasonGarrison 16:42, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Celtic families

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:54, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Another language family / geography WP:OR WP:ARBITRARYCAT WP:CROSSCAT. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 22#Category:Celtic clans, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lists of Celtic clans, Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 April 21#Category:Celtic women, etc. As these precedents have established, it is inappropriate to label anyone 'Celtic' after the year 500 BCE. Celts (modern) is a modern idea about the identity of people living in certain modern regions of Europe, whether they actually speak any Celtic language or not, and whether they actually self-identify with it or not. I took some samples from Category:Cornish families (basically all of them), Category:Irish families, and Category:Scottish families. None of them was about families mentioned in sources before the year 1000 BCE, none of them was about anything 'Celtic' (except maybe their surname), and many of these families immigrated from elsewhere, e.g. to Cornwall from England, Normandy, Brittany, Ireland etc. so that we can't assume that they even spoke Celtic languages, or that if they did, this was WP:DEFINING for who they were as a family. For comparison: all other siblings in Category:European families are defined by nationality (except Category:Germanic families, which I have just speeded to be renamed to Early Germanic families, because that category tree is limited to pre-1200 people and groups of people by long-standing consensus). There is no Category:Slavic families, no Category:Romance families or Category:Latin families, no Category:Baltic families etc., and rightly so. NLeeuw (talk) 16:34, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Countries results at Miss Universe

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:55, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: highly overlapping SMasonGarrison 15:52, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Military history of the Byzantine Empire

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:55, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Since the Byazantine empire no longer exists everything it (or its army) did is by definition history; also these two categories form a loop. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:51, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Battles involving the Mongols

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 July 20#Category:Battles involving the Mongols

Category:Egyptian beauty pageant templates

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:56, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: underpopluated category. only one template in here SMasonGarrison 15:49, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:James River Watershed

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:56, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category forms a loop with Category:James River (Virginia) and is not a defining characteristic of Chesapeake Bay Interpretive Buoy System. Manually move Category:James River (Virginia) up to Category:Chesapeake Bay watershed. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:45, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Attempted assassinations of presidents of the United States

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:57, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename per actual content, and to more clearly distinguish from successful assasinations, which are in a separate category (that is currently forming a category loop with this one). * Pppery * it has begun... 15:39, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Face of Beauty International

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:57, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. this only contains the eponymous article and the logo. SMasonGarrison 15:01, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:2013 crimes in New Jersey

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:57, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Each of these categories only has 1-2 pages. Per WP:OCYEAR, suggesting a merge to the decade category. – numbermaniac 14:14, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 July 21#National Gallery (Norway) → National Museum of Norway

Category:Orders of battle Russian invasion of Ukraine

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Russian invasion of Ukraine orders of battle. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:15, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Current category name is not grammatical in the English language. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 09:33, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Canadian people of Norman descent

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:58, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, with few exceptions we do not categorize people by provincial descent. These are people of Normandian descent rather than Norman descent per se. The main article Norman Canadians is also of questionable quality. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:05, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Crime in the Dutch East Indies by type

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:58, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Merging is unnecessary, the subcategory is already in Category:Social history of the Dutch East Indies. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:00, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom SMasonGarrison 15:02, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Slovenian novels 1900-2000

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:20th-century Slovenian novels. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:59, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCYEAR. It makes more sense to group them into centuries since most decades are empty and some years have a single entry. TurboSuperA+(connect) 08:41, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't yet finished categorizing these novels. Only one decade - the 1920s - would be empty in the end. So I'd suggest grouping by decade rather than century. I think this would be more useful. 19th century novels may seem like a reasonable group, but there is a lot of difference between a novel from the 1900s and one from the 1950s or 1990s. Meanwhile, I'll wait to see what is decided. Robina Fox (talk) 14:56, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Instead of "1900-2000", it should be Category:20th-century Slovenian novels. See Category:20th-century novels for similar categories by nationality or language. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:12, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'll wait to see what is decided.
@Robina Fox I'd suggest you continue adding novels so that we can see whether there are enough of them to justify grouping them by decade. TurboSuperA+(connect) 10:19, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rather than that: 1900s - 2, 1910s - 1, 1930s - 3, 1940s - 1, 1950s - 1, 1960s - 5, 1970s - 3, 1980s - 5, 1990s - 20. This includes all current 1900 to 1999 Slovenian novel articles. Not enough, I expect, though perhaps the 1990s could be a separate subcat under 20th-century Slovenian novels. --- Robina Fox (talk) 16:29, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think it makes sense to create a subcat for 1990. TurboSuperA+(connect) 05:41, 14 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Slovenian novels 1800-1900

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:59, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCYEAR. It wouldn't make sense to group them by decade because some decades would have only one entry. Grouping them by the century makes sense. TurboSuperA+(connect) 08:26, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Instead of "1800-1900", it should be Category:19th-century Slovenian novels. See Category:19th-century novels for similar categories by nationality or language. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:13, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cagua players

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:00, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic. There is even no mention of it in the articles at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:33, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sabaneta, Barinas

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 July 21#Category:Sabaneta, Barinas

Category:User python-0.5

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:00, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for lacking any discernible collaborative function, compare Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_November_27#Category:User_fr-0.5, Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2016_November_19#Category:User_ru-0.5, Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/User/Archive/May_2007#Category:User_Hrkt-0.5. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:59, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:French people of Norman descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:04, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, these are French people whose parents came from the (former) province of Normandy. We do not normally categorize people by provincial descent in their own country. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:58, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Secretaries-general of political parties

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:05, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Highly overlapping. Merge target states that "This category is for holders of positions of General secretary, Secretary-general, First secretary or other associated titles, given to leaders of some international organizations political parties, trade unions and other organizations." SMasonGarrison 04:51, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Leaders of political parties by ideology

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:04, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layer. SMasonGarrison 04:49, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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