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Category:Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 01:22, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Inclusion of a song on a list is not a defining characteristic, particularly considering there have been multiple versions of Rolling Stone's list over the years. Also, this category fails WP:TOPTEN; a different Rolling Stone 500 Greatest list is even the example given for categories that fail that criteria. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 23:01, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Best Picture International Eurasia Award winners

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The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 01:22, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. underpopulated category SMasonGarrison 22:53, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Fijian medical doctors

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The result of the discussion was: Keep * Pppery * it has begun... 01:22, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per consistency with the majority of the categories in Physicians by nationality, as well as multiple attached Wikidata items. There might be some duplicates or typos in here, due to the sheer size of the list, but I've still chosen to be bold... - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 18:14, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I do like consistency, but per the last time this was discussed Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_February_19, there are well-established regional differences what physicians versus medical doctors mean in the Angelo-sphere. For example, in the UK, physician often specifically refers to a doctor specializing in internal medicine, like a general practitioner.SMasonGarrison 21:03, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Good to know. I was just making a suggestion/proposal - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 21:32, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from historical regions

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The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 01:22, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. (I purged another subCategory:People by former country since former countries are quite different from historical regions.) Marcocapelle (talk) 17:58, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. It's unclear what counts as a "historical" region vs a regular region... - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 18:23, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - but only if we deem 'historical region' a subset of 'former country' for categorisation, and so revert the recent People by former country purge to incl instances of the former. I agree that historical region != former country, but imo we oughtta have at least one master 'People by historical place' cat to match People by historical event in People by association, where the category subsumes both historical places which were countries and those which were not. Eg Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, ancient Egypt, Mesoamerica are not strictly former countries, but imo editors/readers would expect them to be in some Cat by former country.
Ps for historical places, we currently have Historical regions, Former countries and Former empires (that I found at least), but only one 'People by x' cat, where People by former country serves for the second and third cat in this list, but ought to further still serve for the first one too.
Pps I hope this made sense btw? I think a visual tree might help here. Basically this cat was meant to build a more logical/sensible cat tree, but if we can just co-opt the current tree for 'former country' then merging would save us a lot of work w/o loss of generality/w/o unduly restricting the ___domain/superset, I'd say.
- Asdfjrjjj (talk) 00:05, 24 July 2025 (UTC) (orig cat author)[reply]
A visual tree would help immensely. I feel that there are so many category names being thrown around here (and they all sound the same), so it would help at least a little bit to visualize their relationships with each other. I'm currently stroking my non-existent beard in contemplation... - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 23:19, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Categorizing by former place is fine and categories by former country are an excellent example of that. But former places are something completely different than historical places (which are current places with historical significance). Take Moravia again, it is a historical region now, it used to be a county. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:57, 25 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    To editor Marcocapelle: Oh I think that's where I was getting mixed up - I was thinking historical place or toponym = former place/toponym. But the first one can be current too whereas the latter can't be, so that's my bad, sorry! In that case, I vote merge sans conditions, and I'll specify (later on) in 'Cats by region' that it's also for cats by historical places w/c aren't former countries :) - Ps I might disagree with 'historical places are current places with historical significance,' not sure atm but that'd be irrelevant here. - Pps sorry OpalYosutebito, couldn't find a ready-made viz and too tired atm to make one :( - Asdfjrjjj (talk) 06:38, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:UBC Thunderbirds volleyball players

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Liz Read! Talk! 18:21, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary container category that can be replaced by Category:UBC Thunderbirds athletes and Category:U Sports volleyball players for its two former pages Category:UBC Thunderbirds women's volleyball players and Category:UBC Thunderbirds men's volleyball players. Similar to conventions with other schools. Epluribusunumyall (talk) 08:43, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Australian companies disestablished in 1969

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The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 01:22, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Most of these categories have 1 to 3 pages, and 2 of them have 4 pages. Suggesting an upmerge to the parent category. I haven't suggested merging to the other parent, "Companies disestablished in [year]", because the articles are usually already in one of its industry-specific subcategories, such as Category:Manufacturing companies disestablished in 1969. – numbermaniac 07:58, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Collier Family (Dacorum and Stockport)

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The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 01:22, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is just a category for fintech exec Mark Collier and publisher Derrick Collier and the related business Priory Records. We can't call it Category:Collier family because that's a different English family. Neither article mentions Dacorum or Stockport. This is the best I can come up with given the differing careers of father and son. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:24, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chinese venereologists

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The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 01:22, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 03:24, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 03:54, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Former subdivisions of Bosnia and Herzegovina during Ottoman period

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Subdivisions in Ottoman Bosnia and Herzegovina. Clear consensus for a rename; WP:BARTENDER applies and this option seems to have the most support and incorporate many people's thoughts about the name. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 14:50, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: More grammatically correct and is more consistent with parent categories - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 02:47, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians who like Undertale/Deltarune

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 14:48, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Fails WP:USERCAT for lacking any discernible collaborative function. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:47, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination. Looks kinda redundant - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 02:55, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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