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File:QuantrillRegimentFlag.jpg

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File:QuantrillRegimentFlag.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Sf46 (notify | contribs).

Orphaned file, no encyclopedic use. — Σxplicit 03:31, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

KeepImage used in article Quantrill's Raiders. Sf46 (talk) 13:27, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's not being used now, see this edit. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 20:37, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

However, I do want to echo the concerns raised about this flag. Pleas see this by the Kansas Historical Society. Also see this drawing in Harper's Weekly. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 20:42, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Fredfiglhorn.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 11:46, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Fredfiglhorn.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by MJisnotmylover (notify | contribs).

Unjustifiable FU image. The information imparted by this image could be completely replaced with a free image. ÷seresin 05:18, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Woah, the picture freaks me out. Not just that (of course) but I think there could be a better image. Jeremjay24 _msg 00:45, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a picture of a fictional character, I don't we can expect this to be replaceable with a free image. An image of the actor is not an image of the character. — PyTom (talk) 17:07, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- But since this is a youtube style of acting, I cannot see the difference between using a real photo of this kid or by taking a screen cap of the video. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 21:17, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. That image also creeps me out, but I think that is the point. The only way to replace this with a free image is if the actor re-licensed the image. — sligocki (talk) 18:46, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Always a good idea. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 18:49, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - What do you mean? good idea to keep or good idea to re-license? — sligocki (talk) 20:41, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - As for a relicense. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 05:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep No other image is available. --Keithf2008 (talk) 21:30, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the character is Lucas Cruikshank wearing a blue T-shirt. I can't see that anyone has contacted this living person for a free image ? Replaceable with a free alternative (an image of Lucas Cruikshank) - Peripitus (Talk) 06:03, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, replaceable fair use image of a living person. Stifle (talk) 11:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Instead, we should have a picture of Fred's background, with the Fred logo and him with the dog. Jeremjay 24 13:46, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Christopher Wood, Coast.jpg

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File:Christopher Wood, Coast.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Cactus.man (notify | contribs).

Inappropriate use at Christopher Wood (Scottish painter). No indication of critical commentary, not even that the painting is that notable. Ricky81682 (talk) 06:20, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I really like the image, but it fails at least WP:NFCC#1 (No free equivalent) and WP:NFCC#8 (Contextual significance) because it is not even mentioned in the article. It could be replaced by a photo of the artist (since the article is about the artist not the art anyway). It would be nice to have an example of his style on the page, but that's not reason enough for Fair Use. — Sligocki (talk) 18:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Kid(8bit).jpg

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File:Kid(8bit).jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bahamut0013 (notify | contribs).

removed during a general cleanup of Characters of 8-Bit Theater, thus now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 10:44, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:DoomCultists(8bit).jpg

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File:DoomCultists(8bit).jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bahamut0013 (notify | contribs).

recently removed from Characters of 8-Bit Theater, thus now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 10:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Astos(8bit).jpg

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File:Astos(8bit).jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Bahamut0013 (notify | contribs).

recently removed from Characters of 8-Bit Theater, now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 10:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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recently removed from Characters of 8-Bit Theater, now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 10:50, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Matoya(8bit).jpg

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recently removed from Characters of 8-Bit Theater, now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 10:51, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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recently removed from Characters of 8-Bit Theater, now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 10:53, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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recently removed from Characters of 8-Bit Theater, now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 10:55, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Darko(8bit).jpg

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recently removed from Characters of 8-Bit Theater, now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 10:57, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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recently removed from Characters of 8-Bit Theater, now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 10:58, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Dragoon(8bit).jpg

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recently removed from Characters of 8-Bit Theater, now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 10:59, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Warmech.PNG

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recently removed from Characters of 8-Bit Theater, now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 10:59, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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recently removed from Characters of 8-Bit Theater, now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 11:01, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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recently removed from Characters of 8-Bit Theater, now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 11:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Hank&Mess(8bit).jpg

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recently removed from Characters of 8-Bit Theater, now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 11:04, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Jeff(8bit).jpg

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recently removed from Characters of 8-Bit Theater, now orphaned R. Wolff (talk) 11:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Violethillmusicvideo.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:01, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Violethillmusicvideo.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Legolas2186 (notify | contribs).

Image appears to fail WP:NFCC#8 as it does not increase readers' understanding of the article and its omission would not be detrimental to that understanding. Also, by including four separate screenshots, it fails WP:NFCC#3a. Stifle (talk) 11:34, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Agree, it's not even a very good image, it's inclusion actually makes the article look less professional. I'm going to remove if from the article. — Sligocki (talk) 19:00, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- See [1] for page it originally appeared on. — Sligocki (talk) 19:04, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:5Avenue-53rd-IND.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:01, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:5Avenue-53rd-IND.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Brooklynl (notify | contribs).

Orphan, bad quality. Damiens.rf 12:00, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Orphaned and with no apparent use to encyclopedia. It is sort of artistic though :) — Sligocki (talk) 18:30, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Internet dog.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: - Keep - Peripitus (Talk) 04:37, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Internet dog.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Privatemusings (notify | contribs).

I don't buy the fair use rationale. The cartoon could as easily be described. The cartoon is readily usable in the resolution we have, yet the article says the cartoonist has earned $50k from it - we 're surely, even if in only a small way - likely to deprive him of income. Not good. Tagishsimon (talk) 13:46, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article this image is used on is about the image itself. I think that the current fair use rationale is good enough to justify its use in the article. Captain panda 17:16, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Definitely fair use IMHO. AshLin (talk) 17:52, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It could be a bit lower resolution, but it is definitely an appropriate application of fair use. Since the article is itself about the picture, the absence of the picture almost makes the article useless. Describing is not the same as seeing. Xenon54 / talk / 20:23, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. Removing the image removes the basis of the article from the reader. Regards, MacMed^talk _stalk 15:02, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, fails WP:NFCC#10c. If kept, reduce resolution and increase compression. Stifle (talk) 08:26, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Me again. Whilst respecting the views of others, I'm shocked that we would think for any more than a minute that this is other than an egregious copyvio. Let me count the ways:
- 2. Respect for commercial opportunities. Non-free content is not used in a manner that is likely to replace the original market role of the original copyrighted media. We are giving the whole thing away for free.
- 8. Contextual significance. Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding. How much less would we understand the article by describing it: "line drawing of two dogs, one sitting on an office chair in front of a computer, the other on the floor looking up. The caption is...". There is no part of the article that would suffer.

Ah well. Only two ways, as it turns out. But either we have respect for our own policy (and others copyright) or we do not. Wanting the image simply is not enough. --Tagishsimon (talk) 18:53, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"We are giving the whole thing away for free" -- At greatly reduced resolution; any copies made would be of inferior quality. As for your other point, a picture is worth a thousand words. --Cybercobra (talk) 10:23, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This is an iconic image, one that is notable enough to merit its own article. It's pretty well settled that an iconic image can be used in an article about that iconic image. With respect to Tagishimon's objections, I don't think either of them is valid. There's no market for using an image in an article about itself, as such use is nearly always fair use, which doesn't require a license. The image is absurdly widely available, at better resolutions, so our use doesn't make it materially more available to potential infringers. I also don't think the image can be replaced by text. For example, Tagishimon says that it is a "line drawing of two dogs", but that doesn't convey much. The images at Goofy and Pluto (Disney) are both drawings of dogs, and they look nothing like each other... nor do they look anything like the dogs in On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog. The current resolution seems to be reduced quality, and if anything, too small, as it's hard to make out what technique was used for the shading in the image. I think this does satisfy 10c, albeit onlyt barely, but wouldn't be opposed to improving the image page. — PyTom (talk) 13:05, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm indifferent to keeping the file or not on the basis of Tagishsimon's points, but if the file is going to stay, it needs 2 separate, detailed rationales that state the name of the article the image is used in.--Rockfang (talk) 03:07, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I've added the rationale for On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog. I don't believe it should be used in The New Yorker, and so I didn't add a rationale for that use. — PyTom (talk) 16:10, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Clear rationale for use in its own article. If we have an article about a particular image, we need the particular image. DGG ( talk ) 08:20, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep seems a good application of the fair use. Koko90 (talk) 16:00, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. We are not depriving the artist of income. He has earned the royalties from publishing his comic in magazines and news papers and selling posters and t-shirts, not from selling a glimps of the image to private users (what Wikipedia is doing). People are not going to print their own posters or t-shirts from our measly 0.1 megapixel image! (And no respectable magazine would print the comic without paying for it.) — Sligocki (talk) 18:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just a comment about the file size, the size is perfect. It was already shrunk once before to comply with current fair use rules. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 18:45, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
So, are you with me... ;) --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Delete It would be a simple matter to replace the image with a link to the image from the New-Yorker store at http://www.thenewyorkerstore.com/product_details.asp?sid=22230. The use of that particular version of the image, which includes the copyright notice, would be arguably less likely to deprive the (copyright holder, not the artist) of income. thomasee73 —Preceding undated comment added 23:18, 13 September 2009 (UTC).[reply]
- Images with watermarks are frowned upon. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 06:54, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, now valid fair use. Stifle (talk) 11:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Zscout370 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 20:10, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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policeman face is recognizable 93.42.93.170 (talk) 14:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not a valid reason for deletion under US law or wikipedia policy. Greek law may be different, but does not apply here. --Tagishsimon (talk) 14:14, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:CSD#F8.--Rockfang (talk) 03:13, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted by me because it was on the Commons already. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 18:48, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) A file with this name on Commons is now visible. AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:01, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Jay.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Jayrevelle (notify | contribs).

Unencyclopedic (autbiog now deleted) and unused. Very generic filename, would recommend replacing with something like File:Image.jpg. J Milburn (talk) 16:52, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or link to Image.jpg. I agree, unecyclopedic and no apparent use whatsoever. — Sligocki (talk) 18:20, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Readyforlovemalasian.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Drilnoth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:01, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Readyforlovemalasian.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Zirza (notify | contribs).

Alternative cover is of no importance and is not discussed. J Milburn (talk) 17:08, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Agree, it is not even mentioned in the article. Seems to have orignally been in Tata Young - Ready for Love (Malaysian Edition), but that article was deleted. — Sligocki (talk) 18:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Towcester station.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Stifle (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:05, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Towcester station.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Cooltrainer Hugh (notify | contribs).

The permission (OTRS ticket 2009080610048158) refers only to use on Wikipedia, not to release under a CC license. However, as this image is clearly a rather old one, I doubt the webmaster of the source website is the copyright holder anyways. Possibly public ___domain, but unlikely, and evidence (author, publishing and/or date information) would be required anyway. J Milburn (talk) 19:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I may have simply selected the wrong template when I uploaded the photo. I do have an e-mail from the webmaster giving permission for it to be used, which I forwarded to Wikimedia Commons, but I suppose if he's not the copyright holder then that doesn't matter. I could possibly try and gather more info regarding the photo? Cooltrainer Hugh (talk) 22:23, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I found what appears to be a copy of the image here if that helps at all.--Rockfang (talk) 03:23, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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