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File:Bert Combs.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Keep, general consensus is that this is probably in the public ___domain, and it appears that further attempts are being made to verify this situation. - Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) ^talk 10:58, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Bert Combs.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Acdixon (notify | contribs).

An image of a high ranking US federal employee, it is inconceivable that a single image of this employee was not made by their employerFasach Nua (talk) 23:16, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea whether US appeal court judges are usually photographed officially. Official photographs of Combs as governor of Kentucky would not normally be in the public ___domain as they would not usually be words of the federal government. The Sixth Circuit page on Combs uses a modern portrait of him. But the image nominated here could, as it says on the image page, be in the public ___domain: "Anything published before March 1, 1989 with no copyright notice ("©", "Copyright" or "Copr.") plus the year of publication (may be omitted in some cases) plus the copyright owner (or pseudonym) is in the public ___domain." So, too, may be the Sixth Circuit's portrait which was presented (and evidently "published") on 8 February, 1989. Clearly this would need checking, but I think there is a good chance that one or both would be covered by {{PD-art}}. Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:23, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have made several good-faith efforts to locate a PD image of Combs, as evidenced at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Bert T. Combs/archive1. Continuing to argue that there must be a PD image of him out there because it is "inconceivable" that there isn't strikes me as begging the question. Asking me to prove a negative (i.e. to prove that there isn't a PD image of Combs somewhere) is unfair; I've already indicated my willingness to use any PD image that may show up in the future, but until such time as such an image shows up (or even evidence of such an image shows up), I think the present image should be allowed to remain on fair use grounds. BTW, User:FloNight has agreed to check in The Bert T. Combs Collection at the University of Kentucky at her next opportunity, whenever that is. She's much closer to that institution than I am. If she finds a PD image in that collection, I'll be the first to support deletion of the fair use image in favor of the PD one. Acdixon ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 14:44, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Possibly public ___domain. If non-free, still acceptable as a free equivalent clearly cannot be found or created at this time. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 04:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"possibly free" is not a consideration for an image used under a fair use rationale, we do not have degrees of non-free. WP:NFCC makes no provision for editor to add non-free content because they are unwilling to fully research the subject, and I have little doubt that free images of this high ranking federal employee are available, even if they are not accessible by the trivial an act as typing the the name into google. Fasach Nua (talk) 12:07, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have done more than typing the name into Google. In fact, I have pursued every avenue you have suggested for finding such an image, and still have turned up nothing (excepting searching the collection at the University of Kentucky, which physical geography prevents me from doing. I've got someone committed to searching there when their schedule allows.) Just because you have "little doubt" that a PD image is available doesn't make it so. What if one doesn't turn up in the UK collection? Will you still maintain that one must exist because you think it must? It's impossible to prove that one doesn't exist, but until you prove that one does, I think the good faith efforts that have been made to locate one should be considered reason enough to keep the present image on a fair use basis. Acdixon ^{(talk • contribs • count)} 15:32, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:DFL Party logo.png

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The result of the discussion was: keep. - Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) ^talk 05:32, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:DFL Party logo.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by EdwinHJ (notify | contribs).

conveys no information beyond that contained in the free image File:MinnesotaDFLconvention2006-06-08.JPG, thus failiing wp:nfcc number one and eight Fasach Nua (talk) 20:15, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The free image mentioned does not really replace this one; I disagree that this fails WP:NFCC#1. As for WP:NFCC#8, I submit that describing a political party's logo with prose is not as effective at enhancing the reader's understanding as an actual image of the logo. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 04:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is not proposed to describe the logo with proes, it is meerly propose to use a free alternative already on wikipedia, it is unclear what you feel the free image is lacking that the non-free image contains Fasach Nua (talk) 12:01, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per A Stop at Willoughby. -FASTILY ^(TALK) 08:30, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Alkesh.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Alkesh.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Dbutler1986 (notify | contribs).

Image of minor fictional starship, does nothing to improve the article in question. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 02:54, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 04:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:USA Network 1st logo.gif

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The result of the discussion was: The result of the discussion was Keep. -FASTILY ^(TALK) 08:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:USA Network 1st logo.gif (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Danang S. (notify | contribs).

Invalid use of a historical logo. At time of nomination, is orphaned, but uploader continues removing orphan tag and readding it to the USA Network as part of a non-free "historical logo" gallery, with out the required critical commentary and sourced content to show why this logo is historically significant. Further, the logo is not significantly different from the current logo, File:PerfectUSA.svg, as both are purely stylized text of the station name. While technically these can be considered "public ___domain", it is also still trademark and I see no valid reason to keep multiple copies of a similar trademark around when only one is needed. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 07:24, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - File is considered to be in the public ___domain because it is a wordmark per Wikipedia:Public_domain#Fonts and Template talk:PD-textlogo. Historical public ___domain logos are perfectly acceptable. єmarsee • Speak up! 07:32, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep this wordmark per WP:PD#Fonts. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 04:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Originalmuse1.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Originalmuse1.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Etdeusetservi (notify | contribs).

The claimed source website has gone, however consulting the original version that existed at the time of this upload, the site has a clear statement of copyright that is not CC2.5 (see [1]). The claimed photographer (C. Shepard) has not given any particular release for this image. —Ash (talk) 13:02, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 04:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Ardeshir I silver coin.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Ardeshir I silver coin.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Persia2099 (notify | contribs).

Doesn't appear to be taken with a camera. Note the user's previous uploads, most of which were deleted as copyvios. User has history of claiming copyright over media that is not theirs to claim. They also have a history of using the camera listed for this image as the device which they used to take pictures of other pictures whose metadata says different. — Dæ dαlus^Contribs 13:10, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Possible copyvio. Better to err on the safe side. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 04:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Baba Taher tomb.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Baba Taher tomb.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Persia2099 (notify | contribs).

Metadata doesn't add up with times that picture was claimed to have been taken. Secondly, use has a history of uploading copyvios. — Dæ dαlus^Contribs 13:13, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Possible copyvio. Better to err on the safe side. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 04:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Tim stores wiki.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Tim stores wiki.png (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Kmacd (notify | contribs).

Tim Hortons' store numbers have changed significantly in the past three years, so this map is terribly outdated to the point of uselessness. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 16:41, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 04:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:KristenHoldenRied-WilliamCompton.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Orphaned image deletion bot (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:00, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:KristenHoldenRied-WilliamCompton.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by TAnthony (notify | contribs).

Non-free image being used to illustrate an article on a subject, William Compton (courtier), who has been dead for four centuries. Not clear how an image of an actor playing a character with the same name as the subject adds significantly to the reader's understanding. Fails WP:NFCC#8 I think. [P.S. And as far as Compton goes, there are representations of him that could be photographed. Does {{PD-art}} apply there?] Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:38, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NFCC#1, WP:NFCC#7, and WP:NFCC#8. A public-___domain image could be created and tagged with {{PD-art}}, as detailed by the nominator. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 04:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Leonard Orban signing Treaty of Accession to EU for Romania.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Leonard Orban signing Treaty of Accession to EU for Romania.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Michkalas (notify | contribs).

Non-free content used in the Leonard Orban article. Seems obviously and easily replaceable by text. The caption would do fine with three letters removed and two added "Orban sign~~ing~~ed the Treaty of Accession of Romania to the EU, Luxembourg, April 25, 2005." Does not meet NFCC #1, probably not #8 either. Angus McLellan (Talk) 19:33, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NFCC#1. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 04:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Leonard Orban oath.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Leonard Orban oath.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Michkalas (notify | contribs).

Apparently replaceable by text: "Orban's taking an oath before the European Court of Justice, Luxembourg, January 22, 2007." Fails NFCC #1, probably #8 too. Angus McLellan (Talk) 19:34, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 04:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Kuneva Orban first meeting of the European Commission.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 10:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

File:Kuneva Orban first meeting of the European Commission.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Michkalas (notify | contribs).

Probably replaceable using the caption as a basis. Probably not adding significantly to the reader's understanding. So likely fails NFCC #1 and #8. Angus McLellan (Talk) 19:35, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NFCC#1. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 04:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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