Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Hitachi driverless set

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Ca ^{talk to me!} 01:36, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Hitachi driverless set

Draft submission has been declined 5 times. Draft article has a wide range of issues including a lack of reliable sources (does not meet WP:THREE, no secondary source, details that is WP:CRYSTAL and poor phrasing & prose throughout. Have tried to discuss on talk page (in Feb 24, March 24 and July 2024) with no response. Information best sits in Ontario Line at present - and draft should be deleted. Turini2 (talk) 10:40, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Five declines were five reviews that say there’s something to it. Five times not rejected. The fifth said to consider a merge. There is no reason for deletion. Let AfC processes play out. Only come to MfD after tendentious resubmission or resubmission after rejection. SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:19, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The arguments made by the nominator are reasons why the draft should be declined, and the draft has been declined. They are not reasons why the draft should be rejected, which it has not been, or deleted. The draft is being edited after each submission and decline, so that useful work is being done. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:15, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – the main contributor has repeatedly refused to engage in discussion despite repeated attempts to reach out. If the edits made after the multiple declines were addressing the core issues, sure, fine to keep as a draft—that would indicate good faith and engagement with the project. However, they do not address the core issues despite the multiple recommendations on how to improve; so, do we just continue on in an infinite cycle of declines? Is that a useful use of people's time when there is zero indication things will improve? —Joeyconnick (talk) 06:34, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Drafts are not owned by the creator. There are editors who look for promising drafts and turn them into articles. That may not happen here, but given that the content might be suitable for merging, there is no good reason to delete this. Dealing with the creating editor's behaviour does not require the deletion of this draft. -- Whpq (talk) 04:27, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above. ToadetteEdit (talk) 06:46, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I note one of the authors has left a (slightly oddly worded) comment on the talk page stating "we who visited Draft:Hitachi Driverless Set have been wondering if we deleted this and copy all of it into a existing line foe the Toronto Subway" but also "Do not move this if unless there is a disscussion". Turini2 (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NDRAFT. S5A-0043🚎^(Talk) 07:29, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.