Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 August 6

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 6, 2018.

Alabama American band

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 August 14#Alabama American band

Dirty Words (Rock band)

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 11:47, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not a band, but rather an album. Home Lander (talk) 18:06, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've combined the Dirty Words Rock band to this one. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 18:47, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'll note that Dirty Words isn't a video game title from the Rock Band franchise. AngusWOOF (barksniff) 18:48, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Cinnamon stix

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 August 16#Cinnamon stix

Sexual gatekeepers

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Causes of sexual violence#Gender based socialization and sexual scripts.
Of the opinions to delete, two (Duke of Nonsense and 142.160.89.97) rely on the redirect being offensive or implying a lack of neutrality per the principles of NPOV, which is directly opposed by keep opinions pointing to WP:RNEUTRAL; the latter seems to be the relevant applicable guideline which covers redirect titles, not NPOV; if the opposers would like to effect a change on the application of RNEUTRAL then a broader discussion should be held at WT:Redirect. The only opinion to delete not relying on NPOV (from Arms&Hearts) even opposes the NPOV-based rationale! However this single delete opinion not running against guidelines but also not supported by any is outweighed by the other editors opting to keep and refine to the relevant subsection (which technically means a minor retargetting to the same page...)
Note, the same result will be applied to Gatekeeper of sexGatekeeper of sex, which was mentioned by a few commenters but not properly added to the nom template although the redirect was tagged with the RfD-nom; I added them here just before closing to ensure the paperwork gets done cleanly... NPASR separately if that one has other problems (non-admin closure) Ben · Salvidrim!  16:13, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect could be taken to imply that the role of women in our society as sexual gatekeepers is a cause of sexual violence, which is a typical trope in misogynistic, "incel" rhetoric. As such, I believe this redirect is controversial and has the potential to be offensive, and is not appropriate for Wikipedia. CataracticPlanets (talk) 20:38, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for having it removed, In Memoriam A.H.H. 142.160.89.97 (talk) 02:04, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@142.160.89.97: No problem, apologies for offending you. I only accepted the redirect because it had something to do with the subject. I was not taking sides. Thanks. The Duke of NonsenseWhat is necessary for thee?. 10:06, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@BDD: Does WP:G7 provide for an exemption in such a case? 142.160.89.97 (talk) 05:13, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, as there's good faith opposition to deletion, G7 doesn't apply. IffyChat -- 13:15, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I was questioning that premise which you merely restated, Iffy. Where is an exemption provided for in such a case? 142.160.89.97 (talk) 19:06, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The exemption is that a speedy deletion request made when someone wants to keep the page is not made in good faith, that's why we have XFD to determine consensus on this matter. IffyChat -- 19:07, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Iffy: What is the basis for that assertion, taking into account WP:AGF? That's quite the accusation to level against In Memoriam A.H.H. 142.160.89.97 (talk) 20:17, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
A page deleted by G7 can be re-created immediately by someone who wanted the page kept, therefore there's no point in deleting in the first place if you know that someone wants to keep. See Wikipedia_talk:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion/Archive_68#G7_query for the views of other editors when I asked this question a few months ago. IffyChat -- 20:21, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for not answering sooner. As someone in the linked discussion put it, speedy deletion is for non-controversial cases. If there's an XfD with explicit votes for keeping, that's controversial (enough). --BDD (talk) 00:40, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, my apologies for originally G7'ing the page.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Duke of NonsenseWhat is necessary for thee? 09:38, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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This Week (BBC News TV series)

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 August 16#This Week (BBC News TV series)

Outstanding Male

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The result of the discussion was delete. Deryck C. 11:47, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I propose the redirect is deleted as it doesn't make sense. I cannot find a source that connects the phrase "Outstanding Male" and "Valedictorian". Kadane (talk) 05:23, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Lu Kaidan

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The result of the discussion was delete. There is unanimous conclusion that this is a typo. The redirect creator agrees to deletion. Deryck C. 11:45, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously misspelt redirect, and unlikely to be used B dash (talk) 02:10, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Shadow Slasher

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. Absent a closing statement, it can be difficult to tell to what extent an AfD closer considering redirecting as an outcome. But since the first vote in the discussion raised the possibility of inclusion at List of Marvel Comics characters: S and all subsequent votes were for outright deletion, one of which explicitly argued against inclusion at the list, the situation seems clear to me. Consensus can change, but not in a day. For now, there is consensus against discussion of the character, so the redirect serves no purpose. Should its notability increase, editors may contact me or another admin if they wish to salvage some of the former content at this page. --BDD (talk) 16:15, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This page was closed at AfD as delete, not redirect. Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 01:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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