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February 16

Which countries are banning the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

Of course https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1891223872814395403 is wrong. But to prove the point of not censoring consiparaciy theories, which countries are banning the Protocols of the Elders of Zion? I wouldn’t be surprised even Hungary is 1 of them. But what countries beside France currently do it ? A worldmap would be the best option. 78.245.135.28 (talk) 23:35, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

i think that such - literature - would be prohibited from publication / distribution by default in a great many countries (as incitement to hatred - in the british speech /blasphemy laws, or in German Volksverhetzung 130.74.59.205 (talk) 03:30, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No. The book isn’t that much hatred since it doesn’t tell what to do. In France it has a specific ban issued in 1990 targetting only it because hate speech laws don’t apply to it. Conspiracy theories isn’t necessarily hate speech, hence why I expect the legal coverage is different from hate speech. 78.245.135.28 (talk) 03:43, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So virulently antisemitic lies aren't all that hateful because they don't explicitly tell you to do something? You have odd ideas. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:30, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As far I understand, they don’t directly call to act against jews. They lie about them which implies hate. While in France laws about hate speech date from 1972, the book got banned by decree only in 1990 because it was definitely not considered to be hate speech and printing it was definitely legal.

A conspiracy theory isn’t necessarily about hate speech. Morally we can disagree, but this is important legally. 37.170.138.99 (talk) 08:10, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Did you post the original question? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 09:19, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean ? Countries that ban hate speech don’t necessarily ban the book and hence why I want to have the full list. Countries without hate speech laws also tend to befriend Israel so I wouldn’t be surprised if Hungary makes selling the book illegal. 37.165.255.22 (talk) 05:12, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just wondered if you're an IP-hopper, and it looks like you are. I also detect an agenda. Do you support the claims made in that work of fiction? And your saying Musk was wrong about Hitler is naive to say the least. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 09:13, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No. I don’t support Musk at all. To the contrary. I want to make a case about an inconnic book which is known for having done a lot of harm rather than having to rely on things like demonstrating why Tommy Robinson is bad person. Also, peoples like Elon Musk or all the illeberal right accross the world tend to support Israel ane thus accept view fighting hate speech as bad but fighting antisemitism as good but without knowing the name of the book at all.

Since in France the book isn’t legally classified as hate speech and has it’s own interdiction that came several decades after hate speech laws, I think that the same could apply to other countries wanted to know the full list of countries banning the book specifically in order to make the link. 2A0D:E487:137F:E331:A9B1:14F:1255:EC4B (talk) 06:33, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]