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editThe Isle of Man
editI'd like to have a go at rewriting the Name section on the Isle of Man article (which is somewhat messy at the moment) and am in the process of gathering sources. I'm having trouble finding any that discuss the Manx name for the island (Mannin), however. Wiktionary claims that the name was originally Mana but that the dative form later displaced the nominative form. This sounds plausible (the same thing happened with Albain in Irish), but I can't find anything outside Wiktionary that endorses it. The seven-volume work Placenames of the Isle of Man is useless in this regard, devoting only one paragraph to the name of the island itself. Zacwill (talk) 16:25, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe not terribly helpful, but see The Name 'Man' in Gaelic Literature and Topography by W. Walter Gill.
- Also Manx Place-Names: an Ulster View. Alansplodge (talk) 16:46, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- The Place-Names of the Isle of Man With their Origin and History (1925) by John Joseph Kneen; especially Introduction: The Isle of Man... Its Name (p. xxii) (PS: I've just seen that you said this was useless, but there appears to be more than one paragraph in the linked section). Alansplodge (talk) 16:52, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- This is helpful, thanks. I was referring to a different work with a similar title in my original post. This one I hadn't come across yet. Zacwill (talk) 17:01, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- You're most welcome (I probably should have clicked on your link first!). Alansplodge (talk) 17:11, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- This is helpful, thanks. I was referring to a different work with a similar title in my original post. This one I hadn't come across yet. Zacwill (talk) 17:01, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- The Place-Names of the Isle of Man With their Origin and History (1925) by John Joseph Kneen; especially Introduction: The Isle of Man... Its Name (p. xxii) (PS: I've just seen that you said this was useless, but there appears to be more than one paragraph in the linked section). Alansplodge (talk) 16:52, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have not explored its 26 pages of dense text, but the booklet "Mann" or "Man" (by the Isle of Man Natural History and Antiquarian Society, no less) may have some bearing? -- Verbarson talkedits 22:20, 31 May 2025 (UTC)