Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Romanm

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User:Romanm (7/6/0) ends 01:56, 9 May 2004

RomanM has a lot of experience in Wikipedia and has made really good contributions, about 1700 since October 2003. --Lst27 01:56, 2 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for those words. Of course I accept the nomination. I'm already one of the administrators of Slovene Wikipedia, so the concept is not new to me. --Romanm 05:20, 3 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing and agreeing with most of the opposing comments, I decided to cancel my acceptance of the nomination. It's true, I am not ready for English Wikipedia admin yet. Thank you for your time and for kind words. Regards, Romanm 00:15, 9 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Support:

1. User:Lst27
2. See comment below. Guanaco 04:50, 3 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
3. Dori | Talk 14:04, May 3, 2004 (UTC)
4. User:GeneralPatton Seems like a good contributor.
5. One edit war--on a small scale at that--shouldn't disqualify someone. Meelar 20:28, 3 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
6. Support, particularly after seeing the nature of the so-called "edit war" at Milan Kucan and Janez Drnovsek. - Fennec 13:22, May 4, 2004 (UTC)
7. Warofdreams 18:29, 4 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose:

1. Avala - Not neutral, denying facts
2. Far too few edits thus far. Furthermore, many of the edits are minor changes. Kingturtle 00:45, 7 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
3. Excellent disambig and interlang work; we need more of it! And shows great patience in dealing with Avala. But I agree with KT, too few real edits, not that much interaction with articles or other en: editors (wasn't really active until Feb); could use another month or so, or a more illustrative record. +sj+ 09:26, 2004 May 7 (UTC)
4. Repectfully oppose. This is demonstrative of the uncomfortable position that User:Lst27 creates through inappropriate nominations. User:Romanm is indeed a good, valuable contributor, and the disambiguation work and interlangauge links are a valid contribution. However, administrative matters are handled quite differently on wikis of various languages and I see too little community engagement here at en:. The lack of more substantive edits also gives me too little information to make an informed decision. I do appreciate User:Romanm's excellent work and hope it will continue. UninvitedCompany 15:45, 7 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
5. Maximus Rex 17:59, 7 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
6. I concur with UninvitedCompany's comment. Cribcage 21:58, 8 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
7. I voted here just so that I'll win anyway. ;-) --Romanm 00:15, 9 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral:

Comments:

• I thought I should point out Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress#Romanm. I'm not saying there is necessarily any substance to the complaints, but I think Romanm should at least address the concerns on that page before becoming an admin. Angela. 15:57, May 2, 2004 (UTC)
• Unaware of this--neutral until explanation is given. My fault for not checking history thoroughly enough. Meelar 19:16, 2 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
  • This was not vandalism. It was a minor revert war (2 edits each per article) explained on Talk:Janez_Drnovsek, involving Romanm and Avala. Avala overreacted and posted a complaint on Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress#Romanm. Guanaco 04:50, 3 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree that it wasn't vandalism, but I'm not sure that Avala was in the wrong. In any case, while third-party views are helpful, I'd like to hear directly from Romanm. Cribcage 06:39, 3 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
      • Please see Talk:Janez_Drnovsek. In short: apparently four political parties in Serbia made up that Slovenians killed 40 unarmed yugoslav soldiers during the independence war and decided to sue both of Slovenian presidents for it. It didn't bother them that Drnovsek was not in commanding structure of the Slovenian Army at that time (he became premier in 1992 and president in 2002). The "news" about those political parties going to court was published in Serbian newspaper Blic, but it seems that even it editors didn't think much of it since it was published among car accidents and catching drug dealers chronicle. Somehow Avala thought that this news deserves to be on pages about Janez Drnovsek and Milan Kucan and pasted it there, but I disagreed and reverted the article twice. This is what I have to say about this. --Romanm 13:50, 3 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
      • The supposed charges aren’t getting a lot of attention even within Serbia, and it should be noted that Blic is a sensationalist, tabloid newspaper. --GeneralPatton 20:22, 3 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
• I agree with Meelar that one edit war shouldn't disqualify someone from becoming an admin. However, I don't think it's unreasonable to require some distance between that edit war and the user's promotion. Cribcage 03:20, 4 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm uncertain that any number of edit wars should disqualify someone from becoming an admin. Edit wars are frequently required when people who are more interested in advancing political POV than in building an encyclopedia take hold of an article. Romanm was good about posting reasons on talk pages, and was calm and rational about the process. I have no objection to someone playing hardball against a troll. Frankly, letting idiocy stand in articles is far more harmful to Wikipedia. Also, it should be noted that Avala's first edit was March 11th, which is not three months ago. If I recall correctly, one must edit for three months before one can vote here, no? Snowspinner 00:48, 7 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry GeneralPatton but Blic is not asensationalist, tabloid newspaper. It was the only newspaper that was not under Milosevic power. It is owned by Germans today. Romanm nobody madeup that shooting. That happened and Slovenians maybe don`t admit it. Stop denying masacres . I am not denying that some Serbian-Milosevic para-military forces were killing Bosniaks.

I think that Romanm shouldn`t be administrator because he is editing articles in the way they show Slovenia as the best country with no faults. He is like a judge while he is fanatical rooter of other team. He is not neutral at all! He is denying facts! --Avala 10:48, 6 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

See Talk:Janez Drnovsek for my side of the medal. --Romanm 11:41, 6 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Your side of the medal has traces of innocent blood on it! Mentioning Bozo the Clown in shooting discussion is more than disgusting!

Shame on you! Avala 11:52, 6 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]