Wikipedia:Source assessment/SSSniperWolf

SSSniperWolf now has an article.

This is an overview of sources for SSSniperwolf. (for anyone confused: the first two S stand for "sexysexy", no known affiliation with a certain paramilitary organisation, "SniperWolf" refers to the Metal Gear character of the same name)

As the discussion is all over the place, this page provides an overview of known sources (reliable or not) and whether that source may contribute to notability.

This table was *cough* borrowed from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SSSniperwolf (2nd nomination) by User:Siroxo and expanded.

Potentially contributes to notability

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Source assessment table
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
  HotNewHipHop     Yes
  HotNewHipHop     Yes
  Twin Galaxies ~ situational according to WP:VG/S: "TG is one of the first authorities on video game record-setting (mainly score attack), having endured a hiatus and change of ownership with a new site. For modern records and for speed runs, consider Speed Demos Archive and Guinness."   ~ Partial
  New York Times   WP:RSP: "There is consensus that The New York Times is generally reliable. WP:RSOPINION should be used to evaluate opinion columns" (this is an opinion column) ~ Only three lines about her: "American English among young people gets more infused by Black English by the decade. My girls enjoy a YouTuber known as SSSniperWolf, a young woman of, reportedly, Turkish and Greek ancestry who pops off casually with Black English words and idioms. For instance, I’ve rarely heard the whimsically scatological “dookie” uttered by someone who wasn’t Black. But she isn’t pulling some sort of quotidian minstrelsy; this effortless infusion of Black English expressions is now routine among many Americans her age and even older." ~ Partial
  Polygon   WP:RSP: "Polygon is considered generally reliable for video games and pop culture related topics"   Yes
  Kotaku ~ WP:VG/S considers post-2022 articles to be situtational and to be avoided.   ~ Partial
  "Catherine Reagor, Arizona Republic, USA Today Network"   WP:RSP#USA Today ~ Two paragraphs of coverage, could be used for some trivia ~ Partial
  Yahoo! News   WP:RSP: "Yahoo! News runs both original reporting and syndicated feeds of other sources. Editors have treated the original reporting as an ordinary WP:NEWSORG, and thus presumed generally reliable. Take care with syndicated content, which varies from highly reliable sources to very unreliable sources. Syndicated content should be evaluated as you would evaluate the original source. Syndicated content will have the original source's name and/or logo at the top."   Yes
  Yahoo! News   WP:RSP: "Yahoo! News runs both original reporting and syndicated feeds of other sources. Editors have treated the original reporting as an ordinary WP:NEWSORG, and thus presumed generally reliable. Take care with syndicated content, which varies from highly reliable sources to very unreliable sources. Syndicated content should be evaluated as you would evaluate the original source. Syndicated content will have the original source's name and/or logo at the top."   Yes


  dotesports   Considered reliable by WP:VG/S   Yes
  dotesports   Considered reliable by WP:VG/S   Yes
  dotesports   Considered reliable by WP:VG/S   Yes
  dotesports   Considered reliable by WP:VG/S   Yes
  dotesports   Considered reliable by WP:VG/S ~ more about Pokimane ~ Partial
  The Messenger (website) ~   ~ Partial
  The Messenger (website) ~   ~ Partial
  Yahoo! News   WP:RSP: "Yahoo! News runs both original reporting and syndicated feeds of other sources. Editors have treated the original reporting as an ordinary WP:NEWSORG, and thus presumed generally reliable. Take care with syndicated content, which varies from highly reliable sources to very unreliable sources. Syndicated content should be evaluated as you would evaluate the original source. Syndicated content will have the original source's name and/or logo at the top."   Yes
  Hindustan Times     Yes
  Hindustan Times     Yes
  Hindustan Times     Yes
  Hindustan Times     Yes
      Yes
      Yes
  Time   WP:RSP: "There is consensus that Time is generally reliable. Time's magazine blogs, including Techland, should be handled with the appropriate policy. Refer to WP:NEWSORG for guidance on op-eds, which should only be used with attribution."   Yes
  Secondary coverage, unsure about site, but credited author seems legitimate.   <--see ~ ~310 words, mostly about subject's earnings ~ Partial
~ mostly interview, verifies and analyzes some statistics ~ industry pub that disclosed a sponsor for the story   excluding the interview we have some confirmed stats and minor analysis ~ Partial
  masters thesis ~ masters thesis ~ 33 words of coverage. ~ Partial
    ~ mostly routine (real estate etc), verifies profession and some subscriber counts ~ Partial
  see comment below   see comment below   Is SIGCOV, (please take care, as much cannot be used for BLP) Yes
Dexerto (initially presented below)
  no flags ~ No specific flags so not "red" for this article, but it's primarily "gossip" type stuff mostly unsuitable for BLP; while the author seems fine, the source is widely considered unreliable on wikipedia.[1][2]   ~ Partial
  Forbes   Written by Antonio Pequeño IV (Forbes staff), not a "Senior contributor" like the other Forbes article   Yes
  NBC News   WP:RSP: "There is consensus that NBC News is generally reliable for news."   Yes
  seems to be secondary synthesis of other videos and interviews ~ Seems reliable for "gossip" type coverage and little more, we can't reliably source much more from it, esp due to BLP "We don't just report news, we editorialize it in a way that drives the conversation forward."   ~ Partial
  Insider Inc. ~ WP:RSP#Insider   ~ Partial
    w:de:Mein MMO, partner of GameStar (best-selling German-language magazine focused on PC gaming)   Yes
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

To be determined

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Irrelevant

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Maybe reliable, but most of them probably not. But none will add any value over the reliable sources already identified.

Source assessment table
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
    WP:RSP#MEAWW ~ No
  From another article: "Join oil mastery and experience trading at its finest and to make sure that new users have the best trading experience from day one." and "oil mastery" is a link to some garbage.   Has a reliable-looking name and there are other publications using the same name that may be reliable. But this one has no editorial policy. Can't really find anything about them, but they have an article titled "Best Altcoins To Buy - Five Altcoins To Grow Your In October 2023" (yes, it says "Grow Your In") that states "In this article, we'll explore the top 5 altcoins to buy in October 2023 to get 20x portfolio growth." I'll pass.   No
    "Viral" section seems to be only about internet scandals and feuds, possible tabloid   No
      only published coverage is a name in list No
      3 words of sigcov - minor award No
      minor award again No
      minor award again No
    valnet property + pseudonymous author = no accountability   No
    WP:RSP: "Polygon is considered generally reliable for video games and pop culture related topics"   No
    bachelor thesis   No
  interview     No
  almost entirely attributed to subject, and seems to keep subject voice without quoting at times, does not seem to have done any further verification past a single interview with subject   Tabloid publication   No
    win.gg is tied to sports betting company   No
    win.gg is tied to sports betting company   No
    win.gg is tied to sports betting company   No
  Forbes   Written by a Forbes.com contributor. WP:RSP: "Most content on Forbes.com is written by Senior Contributors or Contributors with minimal editorial oversight, and is generally unreliable. Editors show consensus for treating Forbes.com contributor articles as self-published sources, unless the article was written by a subject-matter expert. Forbes.com contributor articles should never be used for third-party claims about living persons. Forbes Councils, being pay-to-publish and similarly lacking oversight, also fall into this category. Articles that have also been published in the print edition of Forbes are excluded, and are considered generally reliable. Check the byline to determine whether an article is written by 'Forbes Staff' or a 'Contributor', and check underneath the byline to see whether it was published in a print issue of Forbes. Previously, Forbes.com contributor articles could have been identified by their URL beginning in 'forbes.com/sites'; the URL no longer distinguishes them, as Forbes staff articles have also been moved under '/sites'."   No
  Forbes   WP:FORBESCON Forbes.com contributor articles should never be used for third-party claims about living persons   No
    [3]   No
  Sportskeeda   WP:RSP: "Sportskeeda is considered generally unreliable due to a consensus that there is little or no editorial oversight over the websites content, which is largely user-written. "   No
  Sportskeeda   WP:RSP: "Sportskeeda is considered generally unreliable due to a consensus that there is little or no editorial oversight over the websites content, which is largely user-written. "   No
  Distractify   WP:RSP: "There is consensus that Distractify is generally unreliable. Editors believe Distractify runs run-of-the-mill gossip that is unclearly either user-generated or written by staff members. Editors should especially refrain from using it in BLPs. "   No
    Appears to be a blog from a single person, so no RS   Article is only a 20 - 30 sentences long No
  Keemstar   Probably no editorial oversight   No
    Press releases do not contribute to notability   No
    Press releases do not contribute to notability   No
  Dexerto   WP:RSP: "Dexerto is a website covering gaming news, internet personalities, and entertainment. Editors agree that it is a tabloid publication that rarely engages in serious journalism; while it may be used as a source on a case by case basis (with some editors arguing for the reliability of its esports coverage), it is usually better to find an alternative source, and it is rarely suitable for use on BLPs or to establish notability."   No
  Dexerto   WP:RSP: "Dexerto is a website covering gaming news, internet personalities, and entertainment. Editors agree that it is a tabloid publication that rarely engages in serious journalism; while it may be used as a source on a case by case basis (with some editors arguing for the reliability of its esports coverage), it is usually better to find an alternative source, and it is rarely suitable for use on BLPs or to establish notability."   No
  Dexerto   WP:RSP: "Dexerto is a website covering gaming news, internet personalities, and entertainment. Editors agree that it is a tabloid publication that rarely engages in serious journalism; while it may be used as a source on a case by case basis (with some editors arguing for the reliability of its esports coverage), it is usually better to find an alternative source, and it is rarely suitable for use on BLPs or to establish notability."   No
~ recaps information from an existing YouTube video by Paddy Galloway, with no added commentary   WP:RSP: "Dexerto is a website covering gaming news, internet personalities, and entertainment. Editors agree that it is a tabloid publication that rarely engages in serious journalism; while it may be used as a source on a case by case basis (with some editors arguing for the reliability of its esports coverage), it is usually better to find an alternative source, and it is rarely suitable for use on BLPs or to establish notability."   No
~ The Thaiger   Special:Diff/1182681747   No
~ The Thaiger   Special:Diff/1182681747   No


  mostly from subject   ~ No
  Hard Drive (website)   Satirical website   No
  Hard Drive (website)   Satirical website   No
  The Verge   WP:RSP: "There is broad consensus that The Verge is a reliable source for use in articles relating to technology, science, and automobiles. Some editors question the quality of The Verge's instructional content on computer hardware."   mention only No
    Personal blog (see homepage of website)   No
    "Soest" refers to Soest, Netherlands but the site isn't even about that. It's just global news stories that were poorly machine translated. (it says she "stond in een vuurstorm", a literal translation of "has been at the center of a firestorm" (Forbes) and complete nonsense in Dutch)   No
    Looks like another machine translation   No
    Looks like another machine translation   No
    Is another machine translation from the first Forbes contributor article, unreliable   No
    Looks like another machine translation   No
    Blatant content farm   No
Fredzone (in French)
  ~ Some articles have clickbait titles, possibly little to no editorial oversight   Passing mention No
  Mirror page of SVG.com   Duplicate article   No
  Mirror page of themessenger.com's website   tabloid publication   No
  ~ Google translation shows that some headlines can be clickbait   vague mention No
~ Tubefilter has a reputation of being indirectly promotional   Tubefilter is generally reliable for uncontroversial topics related to internet culture.   passing mention No
sabah.com.tr (in Turkish)
  ~ Possible tabloid   mention No
  Compact version of SVG article (Looper and SVG are both part of Static Media) ~ Possibly unreliable due to the page being a condensed version of an SVG article   No
~ Static Media   Static Media owns a considerable amount of clickbait and/or tabloid news websites.   No
~ Static Media   Static Media owns a considerable amount of clickbait and/or tabloid news websites.   No
~   Tubefilter is generally reliable for uncontroversial topics related to internet culture.   No
~ Static Media   Static Media owns a considerable amount of clickbait and/or tabloid news websites.   No
  Monsters and Critics   No previous discussion, but it looks like a churnalism site.   No
  GameRant   WP:VG/S says that GameRant should not be used in BLPs.   No
    Article is largely based on comments from internet users   No
~ NDTV, article consists mostly of quoted tweets ~   Article consists mostly of quoted tweets No
~ List of assets owned by Paramount Global#PCM, article consists mostly of quoted tweets ~   Article consists mostly of quoted tweets No
~   Machine translation? Half the lines are nonsense.   No
ShiftDelete.net (in Turkish)
    Translations show that this website is a content farm   passing mention No
criptopasion.com (in Spanish)
    Blog with possibly no editorial oversight   mention No
antaranews.com (in Indonesian)
  Antara (news agency) ~ Reliabilty is unclear   Passing mention No
SaralNama (in Indonesian)
~ Article consists mostly of quoted tweets     Article consists mostly of quoted tweets No
  dotesports   Considered reliable by WP:VG/S   part of a list of participants No


    Very gossip-y, possible content farm   No


    Looks like a tabloid   No
    Allows guest posts, unclear if/how guest posts are indicated, unclear editorial policy/oversight ~ Largely about her house. No
~ Allows guest posts   Line between user-generated content and staff content is unclear   No
~ Pinkvilla   tabloid ~ No
~ Pinkvilla   tabloid ~ No
~ Pinkvilla   tabloid   No
  LegalEagle   Self published   No


    Blantant churnalism   No


hitek.fr (in French)
    Tabloid   No
  Benzinga   Accepts guest posts   No
  Yen.com.gh   WP:RSN (revision 1182860935)   No
  It reports on SSSniperWolf winning "favorite gamer" in the Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards of 2020 but both Nickelodeon and Comicbook.com are owned by Paramount Global. As SSSniperWolf was a contestant the source isn't fully independent of her either, but this could be used as a primary source. Does not contribute to notability though. ~ Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources/Archive 22#Did You Know Gaming?   No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Links from deleted versions of the article

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These don't need a full assessment, just move them to the appropriate subsection. First pass is done.

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Now used in article

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Closer look needed

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Already knew about

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Not helping

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May include some we already knew about, but who cares.

See also

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Rejected by User:Joe Roe for the following reason: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Additional comment(s):

  •   Comment: There is a broad consensus that SSSniperWolf does not currently meet Wikipedia's notability (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SSSniperWolf (5th nomination) for the latest of many discussions) and the repeated recreation of this article has proved disruptive enough that the title has been protected so that only administrators can create it. Given this history, any new draft needs to make a very compelling case that the available sourcing has substantially changed. I'm not seeing any evidence of that here.
    Volunteer time on this project is limited; please do not resubmit this draft until some time has passed and there are significant new sources to present. – Joe (talk) 15:50, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]