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00:46, 10 April 2025 review of submission by Nuvirtualis

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Feedback on recent article? (newbie questions) Hi all, I'm a bit of a Wikipedia newbie and recently took a stab at writing my first article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Aviv_Elor_(Researcher)). It seems the article was rejected by the editor for not meeting any of the academic notability criteria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics)), but I thought #2 would be met given their international awards, or are these too outside of Academia? Reviewing the notability criteria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)), is a different category more appropriate? Any suggestions for revision or should I not even pursue a revision? Thank you for your time and feedback Nuvirtualis (talk) 00:46, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed your header to provide a link to your draft as intended(you had other text there, creating a link as if the text was a draft title). The whole url is not needed when linking; just place the title of the target page in double brackets. ([[Draft:Aviv Elor (Researcher)]], for example).
The draft was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted. I would tend to agree with the reviewer, though, that it's probably too soon for an article about this researcher. 331dot (talk) 01:00, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

05:31, 10 April 2025 review of submission by 24.86.211.12

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There is significant media coverage, what more is needed? 24.86.211.12 (talk) 05:31, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The sources need to be cited inline at the spot of the claim(s) they support. Anything less will lead to a summary decline. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 06:03, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

06:23, 10 April 2025 review of submission by Kschuber98

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This is the second draft of my article. In the second draft, I included reliable, secondary sources - (newspapers, magazines, independent websites, etc.) and I listed the citations as per the guidelines given. And yes, some of the cited articles are “short, passing mentions,” but other cited articles are very long. Is each citation supposed to be “very long”? (ie, Mansfield won two NEA Jazz Awards, so I just cited his mention in their catalog.) I have additional sources I could include, except for various reasons, I narrowed it down to sixteen in this draft. That really seemed like enough - compared to other similar Wikipedia pages. PS- I have noted that the wording of my first sentence was challenged, and I will change that. But it would be very helpful to know - before re-submitting - if there are other suggestions editors may have in regards to the article and citations. PPS- I also wrote back to the editor “Flat Out” but have not received an answer from him. Thank you for any help you can offer! Kschuber98 (talk) 06:23, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kschuber98 Though understandable, beware in using other articles as a model or example- these too could be inappropriate and you would be unaware of that as a new user. See other stuff exists. There are many ways inappropriate content can exist, this cannot justify adding more inappropriate content. That another article exists does not mean that it meets current standards(if it ever did). If you want to use other articles as a model, use those that are classified as good articles, which have received community vetting.
Please tell which of the notability criteria for musicians Mr. Mansfield meets; alternatively, he could be a notable creative professional(as a composer) 331dot (talk) 09:25, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

07:31, 10 April 2025 review of submission by Mamadkoli

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I have made this article, and its my first article making. I had read every policy and rules about article making, and have submitted it 2 times but it has been rejected two times. Now, Im asking for any administrator or admin or experienced editor to help me in finding the problems. Mostly the main problem being notability. I would appreciate and be thankful for any support on this case. Mamadkoli (talk) 07:31, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted.
You have basically just posted his resume. You need to summarize what independent reliable sources choose to say about him and what makes him a notable person.
You took a picture of this man in his office and he posed for you. What's your connection to him? 331dot (talk) 09:18, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

08:07, 10 April 2025 review of submission by Maxxw71

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not entirely sure why this submission keeps getting rejected. Sources are secondary, independent, and in-depth. It's a semi-pro team that plays in the NPSL. Multiple teams in the same league have wikipedia articles of them with barely any sources. Maxxw71 (talk) 08:07, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maxxw71 It's been declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in this process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted.
I don't think the issue is that there is something wrong with the sources, but the sources that you have provided do not establish that this club is a notable organization as Wikipedia defines one. You have just summarized the activities of the club, not significant coverage of the club, coverage that goes into detail about the club. There is also promotional or at least non-neutral language in the draft("winning momentum"; "secured its first two trophies").
What is your connection to the club? You (under your original username) claim to have personally created and personally own the copyright to its logo. 331dot (talk) 09:15, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see I've talked to you before, apologies. But please speak to the logo. 331dot (talk) 12:03, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

14:02, 10 April 2025 review of submission by Galaxy Accelerator

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I copied biography of Hendrik van Dam from wikitree and my draft was declined. What should I do for acception of this new article? Galaxy Accelerator (talk) 14:02, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It seemed to be copied verbatim from a copyrighted source, even you got it from elsewhere(I don't know what "wikitree" means or is). 331dot (talk) 14:20, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@331dot: WikiTree is a genealogy wiki. I should note it doesn't use a copyleft licence, so anything taken from there verbatim should be nuked as copyvio. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:10, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

16:09, 10 April 2025 review of submission by Sami ALG4

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Any way to deal with this? Sami ALG4 (talk) 16:09, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Sami ALG4: Get sources that actually discuss Boudjeltia at length rather than just name-drop him, quote him, or otherwise don't discuss him at length. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:11, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

16:35, 10 April 2025 review of submission by Carmouche69

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hello I want to know if citing direct quotes is permissible. and if the current format of my text (which is very basic and doesn't contain any copyright issues) is good to go for the moment? - mostly i am waiting to see if i need to start all over again. or if this basic format can be published. with revisions + original words later on to add on. Carmouche69 (talk) 16:35, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Carmouche69: You certainly shouldn't be editing this in the first place, so any question on that front is moot. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:46, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
what do you mean? Carmouche69 (talk) 16:51, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 16:55, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the submission per WP:ARBECR. S0091 (talk) 17:03, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

19:24, 10 April 2025 review of submission by Swensonia

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Hi. I've submitted an edited version of this page in hopes of meeting the necessary criteria for publication. Thank you for your previous feedback. Could I please get some feedback on my updated work and be notified regarding acceptance or direction for additional editing? Thank you. Swensonia (talk) 19:24, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You have resubmitted the draft for review, the reviewer will leave feedback if not accepted. We don't really do pre-review reviews here. 331dot (talk) 23:07, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

20:16, 10 April 2025 review of submission by ScienceOcean

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Hello! I submitted a draft for my page and was rejected due to lacking "secondary sources". I was wondering if anyone could review my sandbox and explain to me why my sources are not sufficient? Thank you! Sandbox URL: https://w.wiki/BYpH ScienceOcean (talk) 20:16, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ScienceOcean You need the "Draft:" portion of the title when linking. I've fixed this.
The draft was declined, not rejected. Rejected has a specific meaning in the draft process, that a draft may not be resubmitted. Declined means that it may be resubmitted.
Your sources are just announcements of this event, not significant coverage that shows how it is a notable event. 331dot (talk) 20:29, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

21:48:35, 10 April 2025 review of submission by 103.14.72.158

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103.14.72.158 (talk) 21:48, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

103.14.72.158, Sadly, I can't help you, because you have not specified a draft. — 🦅White-tailed eagleTalk to the eagleStalking eagle 13:52, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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