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08:51, 13 April 2025 review of submission by Clenpr

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I improved this draft. Could you let me know if the article is OK now to move out from Draft or point out any required improvement? Thanks! Clenpr (talk) 08:51, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Clenpr If you want feedback, you should resubmit the draft. Asking for a pre-review review is redundant. I feel like the information in it could go in Liberation Day tariffs#Responses, or that this might already have an article. 331dot (talk) 09:00, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Worldwide boycott is not only related to the Trump Tariffs, but as noted in the article the position of Trump in issues like the Russian invasion of Ukraine, the attempt to takeover Greenland from Denmark and Elon Musk election interference in Germany. Clenpr (talk) 09:16, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

14:36, 13 April 2025 review of submission by Tanushrimitra26

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which citation is not reliable? Tanushrimitra26 (talk) 14:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Tanushrimitra26: your draft cites two close primary sources and a blog, while most of the content is entirely unreferenced. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 14:47, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

15:21, 13 April 2025 review of submission by 82.8.141.222

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New Love (The Doodlebops song) 82.8.141.222 (talk) 15:21, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You don't ask a question but read the decline messages. I also strongly suggest reading Your first article. S0091 (talk) 16:53, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

16:26, 13 April 2025 review of submission by Gurav 1317

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why my article was declined when wikipedi has other game articles ? Gurav 1317 (talk) 16:26, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Gurav 1317: because Draft:Why Unfair Mario is the Ultimate Test of Patience and Skill is not written even remotely as an encyclopaedia article. There is also nothing to suggest that the game is notable. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:30, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
since this is my first article, would you please let me know what is the encyclopedia way ? and i know the game is not notable that's one reason i wrote about it, its very under rated and not known by many, and i want people to know about it. Gurav 1317 (talk) 16:42, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gurav 1317 Wikipedia is not the place to do what you want to do. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia simply summarizes what other reliable sources have written about a topic. If no such sources exist, an article is not possible. S0091 (talk) 16:46, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gurav 1317: notability is a core requirement for any subject to be included in the encyclopaedia. Wikipedia is not a platform to tell the world about something, and certainly not the first one to publish anything.
You can get an idea for how encyclopaedia articles are written by taking a look at existing articles, especially ones rated good. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:46, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

17:17, 13 April 2025 review of submission by Matt.ruhstaller

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I am trying to understand what is missing to have appropriate notability to qualify for a page. This person has significant photo credits and the media coverage of them, including recently by the Hollywood Reporter, covering his photos at award shows.

Can you please help me understand what is missing? When I review other recently approved photographer pages, they have fewer credits, so I am a little confused.

Any pointers are appreciated. Thanks. M (talk) 17:17, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Matt.ruhstaller: What other recently approved photographer pages? Refer to User:Jéské Couriano/Decode:
Most of your sources are bad, one is good, and two are borderline-usable. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 17:26, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the quick response. An example of a page who also has one good source and two borderline ones: Kevin Mazur#
I understand that the coverage does not analyze or reflect on the images, but I felt I should add them because it establishes credit and ownership for the art itself. The photos themselves establish notability for a photographer, in my view. Would a shorter article with basic information (like the one I referenced) have an easier path to approval?
Thanks again for the feedback, I appreciate it. M (talk) 17:41, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article on Mazur was never submitted as a draft; it was moved into articlespace by the creator, bypassing the review process. WP:NARTIST (our specific eligibility criteria for photographers and creative professionals) doesn't support "Photographer just doing his job" as a criterion; I'd suggest both a shorter article and actually finding much better sources (see if there's anything that specifically discusses/reviews specific photos he's taken). The Hollywood Reporter source is along the lines of what we'd be looking for. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 17:49, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that's helpful context.
One more question before I revise: This person has several photos featured on the cover and inside of large music and entertainment magazines and publications. Do those help to establish notability? If so, is there a different way to cite those? M (talk) 17:53, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Matt.ruhstaller: Not unless those photographs have attracted commentary (i.e. they've been discussed/reviewed in an in-depth source). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 07:34, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

17:35, 13 April 2025 review of submission by PawsFC-GM

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I would appreciate some clarification regarding the citation issues with my draft article. Can I confirm which statements need to have citation added or the statement be removed? In the ‘Career’ section there is no citation for the statement about the commission to design a BOAC stand, or designing Coloroll wallpaper. The ‘Early Life’ section doesn’t include citation for the Aga Khan competition. Should these statements be removed if I can’t find citation (I have looked, but not managed to find anything). Wiki guidelines state citation is needed for statements likely to be challenged. I don’t know how likely that is for this article. I have seen similar statements in published articles that don’t include citation to back up the statement. For example, the ‘Biography’ section of the article for John Burningham mentions posters for British Transport (similar to a statement in my article) but the citation doesn’t support this claim. The feedback provided on the 8th April mentions entire sections are unsourced. The ‘Early Life’ and ‘Personal Life’ sections are unsourced, but a lot of articles appear to contain unsourced statements in these sections, with sources unlikely to be available unless the person is particularly famous and the subject of newspaper articles, for example. Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks, Andy. PawsFC-GM (talk) 17:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

PawsFC-GM Are you the general manager("GM") of an organization called "PawsFC"?
Yes, if you cannot find a citation for information, it must be removed.
Please see other stuff exists; there are many reasons that there can be inappropriate content in an article, this cannot justify adding more inappropriate content. If you would like to help us, please identify other articles you have seen with unsourced statements(in addition to the one you mention). We're only as good as the people who choose to help us. 331dot (talk) 18:29, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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