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01:42, 10 August 2025 review of submission by Newbamboo

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I have translated a good article from the Chinese Wikipedia into this draft, and I ask for your help to review it, thank you very much. Newbamboo (talk) 01:42, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Newbamboo You have submitted the draft for review, and it will be reviewed when someone with the interest and expertise comes along – see the note at the top of the submission saying that there are currently >1,100 drafts waiting to be reviewed. Also, as noted at Help:Translation § Attribution, if you are translating from another language Wikipedia, attribution is required. You can add the attribution in a new edit summary by making a Dummy edit, or one of us can do this for you, but we would need to know the name of the article in Chinese (FYI, I cannot read Chinese). ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 01:52, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ClaudineChionh I am the author of the Chinese Wikipedia article[1]. Newbamboo (talk) 02:29, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Newbamboo Thanks – I've added the attribution. ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · email · global) 03:16, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

04:21, 10 August 2025 review of submission by UnforgivingDolos

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I submitted a request to republish an article previously deleted under contested PROD, making changes before resubmitting, but it was declined again with the note that “some sources are primary and do not provide a secondary review-like reference” and that more reliable, secondary, independent sources with significant coverage are needed. I am unclear on exactly which references are considered primary and how best to replace or supplement them. I have already replaced academia.edu links with citations to published journal versions and improved formatting, but for some older career details (from the pre-digital era) it is difficult to find online sources. Could you clarify which parts need secondary sourcing and advise on how to handle verifiable but pre-digital information? UnforgivingDolos (talk) 04:21, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @UnforgivingDolos. To answer the last part of your question: you cite non-electronic sources the same way as you cite online sources: by giving the important bibliographic information such as title, author, date, publication, volume etc, and page number. {{cite journal}} or {{cite book}} will help you do this.
Even for most online sources, a URL is a convenience for the reader, not a core part of the citation: the citation should have all the above, except possibly a page number if the copy cited is one which is unpaged. ColinFine (talk) 16:58, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And to address the first part, anything written or published by Poddar or by his colleagues or by any organisation he is affiliated with, is almost certainly primary. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 17:02, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! Your explanation really helped me a lot. I have now added "secondary sources" as you suggested: book reviews by people non-related to the source person and citations of the book/chapter/article in other books/chapters. There was also a "citation needed" flagged against the note that the subject's D.Phil was under the supervision of Bhabha. It is a 1996 D.Phil - so the only way to validate this claim is to attach the thesis, where the supervisor is mentioned in the acknowledgements (records were not kept as it is now). Would that suffice? UnforgivingDolos (talk) 00:56, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

07:49, 10 August 2025 review of submission by Thunderlionhhh

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Please move my sandbox article to mainspace: User:Thunderlionhhh/sandbox → Phan Gia Nhat Linh Thunderlionhhh (talk) 07:49, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Thunderlionhhh: I won't move it to the mainspace, since it hasn't been reviewed and I've no idea whether it is ready to be published. I have, however, moved it into the draft space at Draft:Phan Gia Nhat Linh, and also added the AfC submission tag. When you're ready, you can submit your draft for review by clicking on the blue 'submit' button. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:08, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks for moving the page to the draft space and adding the AfC submission tag. I’ll work on improving the article and submit it for review once it’s ready. Thunderlionhhh (talk) 08:56, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Thunderlionhhh: Per WP:CATDRAFT, drafts normally should not exist in article categories, as they are not (yet) articles that are ready for our readers. I have invalidated the category syntaxes by converting them into internal links, check changes in revision 1305145292. They will be automatically converted back into valid category syntaxes upon acceptance. Cc @DoubleGrazing. 1F616EMO (talk) 09:19, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

09:14, 10 August 2025 review of submission by 1F616EMO

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My draft, which was translated from the Chinese Wikipedia, was declined because it did not meet the WP:GNG standards. After a while, a Chinese Wikipedia contributor added two sources to the source article. I asked about whether the newly added sources would make this draft suitable for expansion on the English Wikipedia, but got no response. Can someone join the discussion at User talk:1F616EMO § Your submission at Articles for creation: SaiDorSi (April 6) and give some advice? 1F616EMO (talk) 09:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

10:30, 10 August 2025 review of submission by Jacquelinelove

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Please review the changes that have been made. Thanking you in advance for your time . Jacquelinelove (talk) 10:30, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Jacquelinelove If you feel you have addressed the concerns of the previous reviewers, press the blue Resbumit button to re-submit the draft for review. qcne (talk) 10:32, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see it was just declined a few hours before I wrote this. Have to agree with the reviewer; the sources are quite lacking. The Qobuz, Deezer, and Spotify links are simply places to listen to her music, not reliable, independent sources that provide significang information about Mackay.
The Artist Recap citations also fail any test; they're both written by "Artist Recap Contributor" which the site itself says This article features branded content from a third party. Opinions in this article do not reflect the opinions and beliefs of Artist Recap. I don't have sufficient knowledge to say for sure about HipHipSince1987, but even assuming that's reliable for fact checking, that only leaves us with a single usable source, which is insufficient. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 15:46, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

10:51, 10 August 2025 review of submission by 114.10.152.110

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Tell us why you are tequesting assistance 114.10.152.110 (talk) 10:51, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi IP editor. Do you have a question? qcne (talk) 10:57, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

14:20, 10 August 2025 review of submission by Mollymcc

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Google is indexing the "Talk" page, not the Article. I removed the following text 

{{WikiProject Articles for creation |ts=20250601071935 |reviewer=GraziePrego |oldid=1293187954}}

from the talk page as the article was rated, and no longer a draft (I think?). But it did not change Google's indexing practice. I haven't had this problem before, and despite searching "how to" pages, I wasn't sure what to do. I am not an editor. Sorry for the bother. (talk) 14:20, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Search engines are indexing the Talk page rather than the Article page. Could you help me with this? Is there some text missing? I'm not an editor. (talk) 14:32, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mollymcc Please see Wikipedia:Controlling search engine indexing. qcne (talk) 14:46, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK, added no index to Talk page. Is there anything else I need to do? (talk) 14:56, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

15:15, 10 August 2025 review of submission by Yadlappalli Mohan Rao

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hi team, this is Yadlapalli Mohan Rao i have wikipedia page in telugu and i want to be in english also. i submitted the same matter from telugu language to english page for review but unfortunatley my submission is cancelled. can u help me in this page publishing Yadlappalli Mohan Rao (talk) 15:15, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Yadlappalli Mohan Rao. Each Wikipedia language project is entirely separate and unaffiliated, with different policies and guidelines. What may be acceptable on one may not be acceptable on this one. The English language Wikipedia project generally has the strictest notability, referencing, and content requirements of any of them.
Your draft was deleted.
If you want to try to create another draft on the English Wikipedia, please carefully read our policies and guidelines which are different from the Telugu Wikipedia. qcne (talk) 15:20, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @Yadlappalli Mohan Rao. In addition to what qcne said, please note that writing about yourself is very strongly discouraged on English Wikipedia, because almost nobody can do so successfully.
My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. This applies equally to most translations. ColinFine (talk) 17:12, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

15:51, 10 August 2025 review of submission by R-paths

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i actually dont understant the reason for the reject 

R-paths (talk) 15:51, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@R-paths: for events to be notable, they must have either widespread geographic and/or time-wise sustained noteworthiness, or some sort of lasting impact that extends beyond the event and its immediate aftermath. In this case, the helicopter crash may have been notable, and perhaps some of the people involved were notable, but it's difficult to see how their funeral would be notable in its own right. If the subject touches on any existing articles, perhaps you can incorporate the salient points from this draft into those? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 16:09, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is an article for the crash: 2025 Ghanaian Air Force Z-9 helicopter crash. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 17:34, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

19:08, 10 August 2025 review of submission by Googlealt

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BRUHHHHHHHHHHHH Googlealt (talk) 19:08, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Googlealt That isn't a question. Do you have a question about a specific draft article? qcne (talk) 19:17, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

19:57, 10 August 2025 review of submission by Santanu puzari

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Hello, I created an article at User:Santanu_puzari and would like it moved to Draft:Santanu_Puzari for Articles for Creation review. I am unable to move it due to the autobiography filter. Could an experienced editor please assist with the move? Santanu puzari (talk) 19:57, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Santanu puzari Using the whole url in the headers on this page breaks the formatting that provides a link, I fixed this. 331dot (talk) 20:09, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is no "autobiography filter"; new accounts cannot move pages generally. I've moved it for you to Draft:Santanu Puzari, but is extremely unlikely to be accepted. It is poorly sourced and shows no indication that you are a notable person. Please see the autobiography policy as well as why an article is not necessarily a good thing.
You also claim to have personally created and personally own the copyright to the image of you, but it appears to be a professionally taken portrait, typically the photographer owns the copyright, not the subject. Please clarify. 331dot (talk) 20:15, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

20:55, 10 August 2025 review of submission by 24.1.110.112

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I feel like this is important to education and more people should have access to this information. I am not sure what I need to do next. Any advice would be appreciated. 24.1.110.112 (talk) 20:55, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing you can do, it has been rejected. Wikipedia is not a place to just tell the world about something. It's the last place to write about a topic, not the first- independent reliable sources need to on their own first write about a topic. 331dot (talk) 21:01, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

21:37, 10 August 2025 review of submission by 173.94.128.206

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Hello, I am trying to make corrections to ensure Im following the guidelines to have this article published. I welcome any constructive criticism and solutions. Thank you so much for your time and consideration. 173.94.128.206 (talk) 21:37, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like you’ve been given quite a bit of feedback in the comments on the draft, is there something specific you are unsure about? -- NotCharizard 🗨 04:21, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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