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edit01:47, 13 August 2025 review of submission by 154.92.130.89
edithow do i like edit it to be wikipedia notable? i mean its a rly cool game and a lot of ppl dont know 154.92.130.89 (talk) 01:47, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- You can't - notability is a measure of how many sources there are to summarise for a subject. If there aren't any sources, there's nothing to work with. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 03:09, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
03:50, 13 August 2025 review of submission by AndeHuang
editMy draft has been declined twice, and I’m seeking guidance on how to address the issues. AndeHuang (talk) 03:50, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- As a publicly traded company listed on the Taiwan Stock Exchange, Winmate probably is a notable company. The article does not demonstrate this. It reads like an advertisement. I quickly found this source, which may be of use, but first I would remove all of the promotional material and information sourced directly to press releases, such as the "list of products and solutions" which is not useful unless their products as a list are described in depth by independent publications. -- Reconrabbit 14:56, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, @AndeHuang. If it says what the company wants people to know, it's probably promotional.
- The thing to realise is that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 19:43, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
03:54, 13 August 2025 review of submission by Anandrajdel
edit- Anandrajdel (talk · contribs)
Dear Sir/Madam, Dr. Pradeep Rai Mehendiratta has made significant contributions in promoting Indian languages to a global audience. His work has helped many foreign learners understand and appreciate various Indian languages, thereby strengthening cultural exchange and preserving linguistic heritage.
He has dedicated his career to serving the nation through his efforts in language education and cultural promotion. We wish to create and publish a Wikipedia article about Dr. Mehendiratta as a tribute to his dedication and service, and to ensure his contributions are documented for future generations.
We request guidance on how best to present reliable sources and meet Wikipedia’s notability criteria so that the article can be accepted. Anandrajdel (talk) 03:54, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Before you can present reliable sources, you have to find them - and most of them should also be independent (not connected with Mehendiratta or any institution or organisation he was associated with).
- Sources that only mention him in passing are of limited use - they may possibly verify a particular claim about him. Sources that don't even mention him (like the top-level webpages about various institutions) do not belong in the reference list, period.
- I suggest you review each one of your sources against all the criteria in WP:42. If it does not mention him, or is not reliable, take it out. If it is not independent of him, or only has a passing mention of him, it may be useful, but will not contribute to establishing notability, and can only be cited for limited information. ColinFine (talk) 19:52, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
05:23, 13 August 2025 review of submission by VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004
editIs there any way to improve the page, Tatsunoko considers it a separate show from Dashing Warrior Muteking (known as a reboot of the show) and said page was created on the Japanese Wikipedia? But, how can this page be improved? There's a lot of concerns here… VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 05:23, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- @VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004: I'd discuss this with the reviewer and point out the situation. They may not have realised this is an entirely separate series. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:35, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
Ghatail Cantonment English School and college
editI genuinely want to contribute for my School that why i gather so information to write it in Wikipedia but as a new person in Wikipedia i am facing problem to publish it in Wikipedia. How to publish it by solving those problem. It is in draft section of Wikipedia. And declined already for Conflict of Interest. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ghatail_Cantonment_English_School_and_College ArafatImran (talk) 06:51, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hi ArafatImran Welcome to Teahouse
- I can see you’re eager to contribute your draft for Draft:Ghatail Cantonment English School and College Since your submission was declined due to a
Conflict of Interest (COI) anda lack of independent sources....- I suggest you review reliable sources guidelines to find strong third party references such as news articles or education board publications to show the subject’s notability
- Focus on adding solid third party sources news articles education board publications to show the subject’s notability
- Keep working in the Draft namespace or your user sandbox until it is well-sourced and written in a neutral tone.
- Once improved resubmit through Articles for Creation or ask a neutral editor to review. With clear disclosure and reliable sources there’s a much better chance your draft will be accepted.🐍 Thilio🤖
- 🐍 Thilio🤖 07:31, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- @ArafatImran: nowhere does it say that this draft was declined because of COI; in fact, I declined it before I even queried whether you have a COI in this subject. I declined it for two reasons:
- The draft is almost entirely unreferenced.
- The only source it cites is the school's own website, which contributes nothing towards notability per WP:ORG.
- (As an alumnus of the school you probably also have a COI, but that's just by-the-by.)
- Wikipedia articles should be composed (by yourself, not by AI) by summarising what independent and reliable secondary sources have said about the subject, and then citing those sources against the information they have provided. See WP:GOLDENRULE for more on this. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 07:49, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, @ArafatImran. I hear that you want to create an article on your school. But most schools are not notable, and if they are not, then trying to create an article is a waste of everybody's time.
- In order to show that your school is notable (and, I repeat, most schools are not) you need to find several places where people who have no connection whatever with the school have chosen to publish material about the school in some depth, and been published by a reliable publisher (unconnected with the school). If you cannot find several such sources, you should give up.
- If you have found several such sources, then the next step will be to effectively forget everything you know about the school, and write a summary of what those sources say.
- My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 19:56, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
16:10, 13 August 2025 review of submission by Montezde
editThis page was declined because it reads too much like an advertisement. I feel the information presented is factual and written from a neutral point of view. It is also based on independent, reliable, published sources and not material published by MedWheel. Can you help me better understand how it should be revised in order to comply with wikipedia's requirements? Montezde (talk) 16:10, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @Montezde. I have had a look at the draft and it appears that although the draft is referenced, these references are either primary (ref 1-5) or are just pages that advertise the company (ref 6). The other references (such as those from gazette.com), I don't think add anything to help with proving notability. The first line of the draft reads the same as what is present on [this webpage] (which is also ref 1). The rest of the draft reads much the same way. I think that the information on this page WP:NORG will help you determine whether or not the company in this draft is notable! Happy editing and thank you for partaking in AfC! 11WB (talk) 16:22, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Montezde: We don't need mission statements, visions, or anything else MWTA wants to put out to the world. As for the sources...
- We can't use https://www.bicyclecolorado.org/advocacy-group/medicine-wheel-trail-advocates/ (too sparse). Too short to cite.
- We can't use https://www.info.routesoutfitter.com/routsider-blog/medicine-wheel-trail-advocates-cory-suleta (unknown provenance). Who wrote this?
- We can't use https://www.coloradogives.org/organization/MedicineWheelTrailAdvocates (unknown provenance, connexion to subject). Same as above, except the article is written in first-person and was thus likely authored by someone in MWTA's employ.
- We can't use https://www.americantrails.org/organizations/medicine-wheel-trail-advocates (too sparse, connexion to subject). Too short to cite, written in first-person.
- We can't use https://peakradar.com/organization/medicine-wheel-trail-advocates/ (unknown provenance). Who wrote this?
- We can't use https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/7042905/pikes-peak-plummet (too sparse) and even if we could it'd be a non-sequitur. A source that doesn't so much as mention a subject is useless as a source on that subject.
- https://gazette.com/high-school-sports/fountain-valley-school-brings-cycling-race-to-colorado-springs/article_3a0ee580-76d0-11ef-aae1-b73c7d21303f.html is a non-sequitur.
- https://www.cpr.org/2024/06/12/blodgett-open-space-master-plan-approved-after-colorado-springs-city-council-denies-appeal/ doesn't help for eligibility (too sparse). Name-drop and quote from organisation principal, no discussion of MWTA.
- https://gazette.com/life/outdoors/long-anticipated-master-plans-approved-for-2-colorado-springs-area-parks/article_162fabf6-bd87-11ef-9a7b-fbab7359456d.html doesn't help for eligibility (too sparse). Quotes from organisation principal, no discussion of MWTA.
- https://gazette.com/life/outdoors/breaking-down-the-plan-for-colorado-springs-fishers-canyon-open-space/article_c7a6a561-33b6-410f-a685-3ab1fec22720.html doesn't help for eligibility (too sparse). Quote from organisation principal, no discussion of MWTA.
- We can't use https://www.causeiq.com/organizations/medicine-wheel-trail-advocates,205765291/ (too sparse). Content on the profile is perfunctory and unattributed.
- None of your sources are any good. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:30, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
16:43, 13 August 2025 review of submission by 2A01:E0A:D30:1FA0:5048:1384:1018:A192
editI would like to know where to note on the page that I am the maker of the film that I am writing about, and am asking is this contribution is considered to be a conflict of interest. I have included the URL of the distributor as the reference for the information written. 2A01:E0A:D30:1FA0:5048:1384:1018:A192 (talk) 16:43, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hello! Writing about something you are involved in is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. There is a link on the AfC banner on your draft that links here. That section will guide you on how to declare a COI on your draft! Happy editing! 11WB (talk) 16:51, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply, since it is strongly discouraged to write about something I am involved with, how do I delete the draft, Sisters of the Screen, African Women in the Cinema. Thank you Doing womanist work (talk) 17:13, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Doing womanist work You don't have to delete the draft: it's discouraged not banned. But since you are requesting a deletion, I will mark this for speedy deletion for you. qcne (talk) 17:19, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'd rather not do anything that is strongly discouraged. Perhaps I should have asked this question beforehand, but it was only after I was ready to send for review that I came across the topic of conflict of interest. Could you let me know when it is deleted. Thank you very much. Doing womanist work (talk) 17:28, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Doing womanist work You don't have to delete the draft: it's discouraged not banned. But since you are requesting a deletion, I will mark this for speedy deletion for you. qcne (talk) 17:19, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply, since it is strongly discouraged to write about something I am involved with, how do I delete the draft, Sisters of the Screen, African Women in the Cinema. Thank you Doing womanist work (talk) 17:13, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
18:01, 13 August 2025 review of submission by 76.126.75.28
edit- 76.126.75.28 (talk · contribs)
Hi Charlie,
Can you let me know what is wrong with my submission? I've never done Wikipedia pages before, but I've tried to emulate those I've seen that have been approved. I've used third party articles and non-advertising language. This is a page for the JuliaHub company - just like Apple and others have.
I appreciate any advice you can give!
Best, Courtney
76.126.75.28 (talk) 18:01, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging @User:CharlieMehta qcne (talk) 18:28, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hello. Are you @Hurley.cour? Please remember to log in.
- My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia.
- What I will say is that your draft looks to me like what the company wants to say. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 20:00, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- @IP 76.126.75.28 I believe it would be more meaningful to expand the existing article on the Julia (programming language), rather than creating a separate page for its proprietary variant. The open-source version of Julia is widely known, recognized, and generally more accepted in the programming community. You may differ from my notion, and I completely respect that. Charlie (talk) 03:03, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
18:17, 13 August 2025 review of submission by SeaPoint18
edit- SeaPoint18 (talk · contribs)
I had submitted news article links as references at the bottom of my article. I received a message saying my article was rejected. Could you kindly tell me what I need to do to fix this? I thought I had added enough reliable sources. Please help. Thank you! SeaPoint18 (talk) 18:17, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- @SeaPoint18 your draft has no references at all? Are you sure you pressed Publish Changes to "save" the version with references? qcne (talk) 18:28, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
19:19, 13 August 2025 review of submission by B0b3rp4ws
editHi,
I'd like to ask for some more direction regarding this draft. I decided to work on it because I've noticed this company's connections to major aviation associations, and found some secondary sources related to the subject. I'm trying to figure out what exactly makes it look like an advertisement - are the sources not good enough? Is the language I used not neutral? (While I've been using English for years and consider myself to be on the level of a native speaker, perhaps since it's my second language something could be escaping me) Is it simply not notable enough? Is it a combination of these?
While it would be a bit disappointing not to be able to successfully submit my first article, and I'd much rather prefer to be able to correct it, I'd still appreciate feedback even if the ultimate decision would be to delete it, since hopefully, it'd help me in the future.
Thank you in advance. B0b3rp4ws (talk) 19:19, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- To be frank, I didn't have to get past the first line. "Solutions" is just marketing speak. 331dot (talk) 19:30, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, @B0b3rp4ws. Generally, what makes a draft look like an advertisement is that it reads as what the company wants to say about itself. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost exclusively interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 20:02, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
21:18, 13 August 2025 review of submission by Zackerman721
edit- Zackerman721 (talk · contribs)
This is not an autobiography, but it was not allowing me to add the links to Mojica's, nor the combined channel, I am wondering what links I could add for a chance to have it accepted. Any response would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards, Zac and Daewon Zackerman721 (talk) 21:18, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, @Zackerman721. A Wikipedia article should be a summary of what several people wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publication, and not much else.
- It follows that unless you can find several independent reliable sources which talk at some length about Mojica, no article on him is possible at present. Nothing that he has said, written, or published, or that is based on his words, is relevant at this stage.
- @Cyberdog958's comment strongly implies that they have gone looking for such sources and been unable to find any, which is why they have rejected (not just declined) the draft.
- If you believe there are such sources (make sure each one meets all the criteria in WP:42), you will need to approach Cyberdog directly, and ask them to rescind the rejection. But please be very sure that your sources are adequate before you do this.
- My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 22:25, 13 August 2025 (UTC)