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"A conspiracy theory attempts to explain the ultimate cause of an event or chain of events (usually political, social, or historical events) as a secret, and often deceptive, plot by a covert alliance of powerful or influential people or organizations."

Conspiracy theories

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John Greenewald Jr.

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John Greenewald Jr. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article is entirely duplicative of content present at The Black Vault and should be deleted under WP:BLP1E; they are known only for establishing and running the website The Black Vault.
There is no point in merging as there is no mergeable content; the only content present here that is not present at The Black Vault is the BLP's date of birth, which would not be preservable in a merge scenario. Chetsford (talk) 15:42, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep The Black Vault article was created by the nominator earlier this year. I don't see the point of a separate article for the Black Vault if all the material is already found at the biographic article. Greenewald has written three books and is the subject of extensive press. He appears to be the primary notable entity. Thriley (talk) 16:00, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All the press is about The Black Vault and mentions Greenewald's name only in the context of being the owner. In point of evidence, none of the sources provide even the most rudimentary biographical information customary of a BLP: place of birth, education, family, professional occupation/vocation (he's said this is an unpaid side project), etc. We essentially have no information on Greenewalde other than he started this website. Chetsford (talk) 16:35, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just call him Mulder Jr. by Fred Shuster (1999)
Book Follows Feds' Eye on UFOs (2002)
Personally, I think it makes more sense to merge the Black Vault here as a sub-section, particularly since there isn't that much info there anyways beyond a paragraph or so. SilverserenC 17:01, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Since the only non-The Black Vault information we have on Greenewalde is his (approximate) age and what high school he attended, that's going to be a long sub-section. Chetsford (talk) 18:40, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The Shuster article I linked above has some good details and it mentions a Baltimore newspaper article that first brought him attention, so we might want to track that down. SilverserenC 18:50, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"The Shuster article I linked above has some good details " This is the non-TBV stuff I got from it:
  • He attended Alemanny High School
  • In 1999 he was thinking of attending Cal State Northridge
  • He has an unnamed sister
Not sure if I missed anything.
Chetsford (talk) 18:59, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 18:53, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. I notice he chose as his X username blackvaultcom, even though his own name, minus Jr which exceeds 15 characters, is unregistered and available as I write this. But even jgreenewaldjr is available. This I think adds to the evidence that his website The Black Vault currently has greater notability and why I support a blank-and-redirect, which preserves the edit history and talk page. Should he ever become as famous as his website with multiple in-depth profiles -- about him -- to cite then his article could be retrieved from the edit history and republished with the additional references. 5Q5|✉ 15:56, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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