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Tanzeem Ul Firdous

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Despite being tagged for notability and COI since 2022, the current version of this article still provides no justification for its inclusion in Wikipedia. The references are primarily user-generated or self-published promotional websites. There is not a single reliable secondary or academic source demonstrating why the subject is notable as a researcher, professor, or author. The article fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:PROF. Deletion preferred.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 07:55, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Pakistan. –𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 07:55, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators and Language. jolielover♥talk 09:46, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep: I have found some references, including book reviews about the subject, and also a couple of articles on Google Scholar. In addition, I came across some general references which I believe are sufficient for WP:PROF and WP:NAUTHOR. The rest of the articles need some cleanup and copy-editing, which I will do once I get free, as per WP:ATD. Thanks. Baqi:) (talk) 15:53, 27 August 2025 (UTC) Blocked sock. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:06, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jannatulbaqi: I have reviewed all the sources you mentioned and found nothing that establishes the subject’s notability. Here is the breakdown of your references:

1, It’s an article about Urdu poetry; nothing is relevant to the article.
2, These are some routine book reviews. They are not published in any academic publications; instead, they are advertisements published in news media. Plus, there is nothing that establishes the subject’s notability.
3 This is a user-generated file-sharing website. What is the relation of this unreliable website to the article’s notability?
4, The article is about Urdu Ghazal in Sindh.
5 A catalogue of a book about Ghalib.

This article falls under Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, which states that it must be written with the greatest care and attention to verifiability, neutrality, and the avoidance of original research. We must be very firm about the use of high-quality, reliable sources. The sources you mentioned do not meet WP:NBASIC, which requires that people are presumed notable only if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 17:34, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Orwellian

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This word should be either redirected to George Orwell or soft-redirected to wikt:Orwellian. Wikipedia is not a dictionary, and the useful encyclopedic information here can be easily merged to Orwell's biography article if need be. silviaASH (inquire within) 02:30, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Arts, Language, Literature, Philosophy, History, Politics, and England. silviaASH (inquire within) 02:30, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as the sources used in the article show GNG - they don't just mention the word in passing, they have whole sources around the word and its connotation and significance. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 04:30, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to George Orwell § Influence on language and writing per WP:NOPAGE at the very least, since pretty much everything here is already there. This doesn't need a separate article. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 15:06, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It seems like an unused neologism. ~Rafael! (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 13:54, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As much of a deletionist as I consider myself, this isn't a neologism, and it's quite well used. An ngrams search shows the first uses in the 1940s, with generally increasing usage ever since. Not only that, but we actually have sources discussing this as a concept (not just as a word), so I think there's actually worthwhile content here. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 16:57, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Meets GNG, multiple sources in article that directly address the term itself. Additional ones found after a quick search NYT, Vox, USA Today. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:30, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But why not redirect as I suggested? It's a mere paragraph, and there's just not that much to say about it outside the context of Orwell's biography generally. And indeed, this content is already there. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 16:57, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 02:54, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

soft keep nothing wrong with it per se Oreocooke (talk) 03:10, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AUI (constructed language)

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No evidence of notability I can see. Main sources of significant coverage are not independent, one links back to this article and is apparently self-published. Survived deletion in 2005; that discussion is here. Draw you own conclusions but I have to think notability standards have evolved since then. Significant COI editing as noted on the talk page. I didn't find any relevant sources on google scholar, which may not be surprising given this language was purportedly revealed to Weilgart by an alien. —Rutebega (talk) 19:42, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Language and Philosophy. —Rutebega (talk) 19:42, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As a professor of psychology my father was never involved with the linguistic academic community and it is likely not useful to use online metrics for what happened long before the Internet.

aUI is a recognized Conlang with a decades long respected history, included on lists of all comprehensive well known conlangs.

The criteria for notability and conflict of interest clause is biased itself. We have Wikipedia articles on some teenage streamers who swear while playing video games and articles about fake products and services that will never be produced, made by corporate shills just to impress investors. There is also endless astroturfing in articles that even remotely have something to do with politics or history.

Thanks so much for your unbiased attention!

Cosmicomandi (talk) 16:31, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
PS After being invited to speak at the international Polyglot Gathering this spring, and also at two Conlang Adventures put on by the Polyglot and Language Lovers of LA, I just finished presenting at the world's largest sci fi con, WorldCon in Seattle. Cosmicomandi (talk) 16:33, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion is not about your COI; I mentioned it only to provide full context for the article being discussed for deletion. I do think the question What am I selling? is a strange thing to ask in light of this web store on what you referred to as our current website. Anyone is welcome to participate here, but I would strongly encourage you to read through our requirements for inclusion in Wikipedia and make arguments based on those established guidelines. You may also find this guide for experts informative. —Rutebega (talk) 20:18, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Quite a bit of coverage in Arika Okrent's In the Land of Invented Languages (from Random House, but author seems reliable) , couple pages of coverage in Jahrbuch der Gesellschaft für Interlinguistik 2018 (here), from Leipziger Universitätsverlag, some short textual analysis in Perspectives on Linguistic Pragmatics (here) and Inquiries in Philosophical Pragmatics (here), both from Springer. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 20:29, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going with a keep on this. There's a review in The Times Literary Supplement (no. 3600, Gale EX1200370742) for aUI, The Language of Space, and some coverage in newspapers: Kansas City Times, Leader-Telegram. The article does need some work though. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 20:56, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for finding these! Okrent seems credible but mostly focuses on Weilgart's personal history, with a few interesting details about the language thrown in. Much better coverage in JGI, but I want to verify it's been peer reviewed before relying heavily on it; the author does not seem to have an academic affiliation. The newspaper articles along with Okrent's book would seem to establish notability for Weilgart himself. I am now leaning toward a page move and cleanup if people are amenable to that. —Rutebega (talk) 22:05, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I certainly appreciate your efforts in finding these articles. Yes, Arika Okrent, PhD linguist, author of Land of Invented Languages had extensively interviewed me for that. And her chapter on aUI covers more than just my father's personal details. Just wanted to also add, that it's exactly for the reason of clarifying misinterpretations on the internet (mostly due to Brad Steiger's book) about Weilgart's supposed revelation of the language by an alien - ridiculous as a serious philosopher and psychoanalyst - that a Wikipedia article can serve. And I can see that the website still is not clear enough in that respect. "...A boyhood vision of an ET imparting a transparent tongue" means a 'boyhood vision' - not an actual occurrence - it was simply his earliest inspiration.

As for 'what am I selling?" - you're right, forgot about that - since I haven't sold but maybe one book there. Selling, you may be able to surmise, is not our main goal; this is an idealistic, educational cause as part of a non-profit organization working in the interest of world peace (at least in a theoretical way) and if I'm selling anything it's in search of a graduate student who would be interested in taking on aUI as part of research of brain mapping - semantic vs. phonological mapping.

Thank you again ever so much for your understanding!

Cosmicomandi (talk) 17:03, 18 August 2025 (UTC) Cosmicomandi (talk) 03:22, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV per the sources identified by ARandomName123. I caution others to look at the sources, judge purely by our notability guidelines, and avoid being prejudicial because of the involvement of an editor with a clear WP:COI. Our job here is not to solve the COI problem but evaluate notability.4meter4 (talk) 20:24, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:23, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

List of the United States communities where English is not the majority language spoken at home

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Basically per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of suburbs and localities in Australia where English is not the most spoken language at home. This is mostly WP:OR from sources that don't meet WP:SIGCOV. Therefore, it fails WP:NLIST. The second paragraph is not an excuse either, since NLIST states "Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability". It links to WP:LISTPURP, which provides the definitions of these terms. I don't think these are excuses since Information: Now, I don't think that this list is a particularly useful information source, since it just rearranges the information of the census. Everything you would hope to find here, can already be found solely there. Navigation: This is not an index, outline or other table of contents Development: These topics are very fringely related and all of them are blue links anyway. If this list did serve a purpose for development, that is already fulfilled and so it can be deleted. The above comments for navigation also apply. Lists and categories: Again, this doesn't really apply as this doesn't serve a navigation purpose. There isn't a category for this list, and if there was then that would be WP:OVERCAT. See also, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of the United States counties where English is not the majority language spoken at home 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 East ernsa hara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 19:39, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NLIST. Here's how this article complies:

First: collectively, the list as a subject is notable. The topic of multilingual communities in general is clearly notable given constant discussion in the USA about multilingualism. Someone on right-wing news always clutches their pearls when another town or region tips to a foreign language. There's been a lot of academic research, too; for example, see this Google Scholar list of journal articles about multilingual communities.

Second: the individual list items are all reliably sourced to the United States Census Bureau's American Community Survey data. Per NLIST, individual entries require reliable referencing but do not each require significant coverage ("Because the group or set is notable, the individual entries in the list do not need to be independently notable").

Third: the purpose of the article is to provide useful or interesting information. I find both this and the counties list interesting. This article received 8,013 page views in the last year, excluding bots and crawlers; this is better than many of our articles, so there is some interest in the material.

As for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of suburbs and localities in Australia where English is not the most spoken language at home, I cannot speak to the topicality of multilingualism in Australia. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 20:32, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If Keep, Move to "List of places in the United States where English is not the majority language". Atavoidirc (talk) 01:23, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Language, Lists, and United States of America. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:26, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per this N talk, it looks like most editors would want the exact list group/set (United States communities where English is not the majority language spoken at home) to be notable, rather than a rescoped group/set (like "US multilingual communities" as in the Google Scholar link by A. B.) Agree with A. B. that individual list members do not need to be notable though. Still could not find the list's exact group/set via quick Google search (but might've missed something?). Agree with nom that this list's group/set seems a bit like WP:OVERCAT imo (unless noted in sources I missed, ofc). Would keep per A. B.'s point re list's informational purpose, but honestly not sure how to assess that :/ - Asdfjrjjj (talk) 12:31, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The false balance with Australian article is unconvincing (WP:OTHERSTUFF). desmay (talk) 15:17, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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List of the United States counties where English is not the majority language spoken at home

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Basically per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of suburbs and localities in Australia where English is not the most spoken language at home. This is mostly WP:OR from sources that don't meet WP:SIGCOV. Therefore, it fails WP:NLIST. The second paragraph is not an excuse either, since NLIST states "Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability". It links to WP:LISTPURP, which provides the definitions of these terms. I don't think these are excuses since Information: Now, I don't think that this list is a particularly useful information source, since it just rearranges the information of the census. Everything you would hope to find here, can already be found solely there. Navigation: This is not an index, outline or other table of contents Development: These topics are very fringely related and all of them are blue links anyway. If this list did serve a purpose for development, that is already fulfilled and so it can be deleted. The above comments for navigation also apply. Lists and categories: Again, this doesn't really apply as this doesn't serve a navigation purpose. There isn't a category for this list, and if there was then that would be WP:OVERCAT. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of the United States communities where English is not the majority language spoken at home 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 East ernsa hara 🇪🇭🇵🇸🇸🇩 19:39, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:NLIST. Here's how this article complies:

First: collectively, the list as a subject is notable. The topic of multilingual communities in general is clearly notable given constant discussion in the USA about multilingualism. Someone on right-wing news always clutches their pearls when another town or region tips to a foreign language. There's been a lot of academic research, too; for example, see this Google Scholar list of journal articles about multilingual communities.

Second: the individual list items are all reliably sourced to Modern Language Association of America data; per NLIST, individual entries require reliable referencing but do not each require significant coverage ("Because the group or set is notable, the individual entries in the list do not need to be independently notable").

Third: the purpose of the article is to provide useful or interesting information. I find both this and the communities list interesting. The county level information shows whole areas where languages other than English are really established as opposed to the communities list which lists what are sometimes just small pockets of foreign language. The article received 2103 page views in the last year, excluding bots and crawlers; this is better than many of our articles, so there is some interest in the material.

As for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of suburbs and localities in Australia where English is not the most spoken language at home, I cannot speak to the topicality of multilingualism in Australia. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 20:26, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If Keep, Move to "List of places in the United States where English is not the majority language". Atavoidirc (talk) 01:23, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - for same reasons as my delete in the other AfD - except that would not keep this one even for informational purposes as per A. B., as this list seems less relied on for info than the other one, and they both serve similar info purposes it looks like/imo - Asdfjrjjj (talk) 12:35, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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