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Anpanman11

Latest comment: 5 days ago43 comments10 people in discussion

Indef'd by me for repeated ECR violations, non-AE action. asilvering (talk) 03:00, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Request concerning Anpanman11

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Sybercracker (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 22:00, 27 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

User against whom enforcement is requested: Anpanman11 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: WP:CT/SA — WP:ARBIMH

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

Copyright violations over two articles.[1][2][3] even after warnings copyrighted content still exists as 70.9%.[4]
After the previous violation of the 3rr rule,[5][6][7][8][9] still edit warring against default sorting.[10][11]
Calling good-faith collaborative edits as disruption.[12][13]
For creating new articles he merely provides quotes, page numbers from the sources.(Here, Here, Here) And mostly using outdated primary sources.
For removing or adding content, he merely provides any edit-summaries.[14][15][16]
Battle ground mentally and with false allegations hoax fillings.

I believe this user has a competence issue he doesn't know how to cite sources properly with pages quotes per WP:V, basic policies like Copyvio, Edit war, 3rr, and what is not vandalism/disruption. Sybercracker (talk) 22:00, 27 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

If contentious topics restrictions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see User talk:Anpanman11#Introduction to contentious topics)

User_talk:Anpanman11#c-Rosguill-20250714185600-Introduction_to_contentious_topics

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

@Anpanman11 These are not the answers to the issues raised here; you have violated copyright on multiple occasions, violated 3RR, still edit warning, and still have sourcing issues (you often cite sources without providing pages, quotes & outdated/unreliable sources). After doing this, all you're not accepting these mistakes showing negligence.[17]

Even after Copyright violation on Muslim-Gujars you created article "Fazal Ali Khan" and directly copy-pasted content from the sources when Lovkal tagged page for revdel you removed tagged adding further new copyrighted content then he restored the tag again. But now copyright content still exist as 22.5% It clearly show your competence issue.
There is also another issue of WP: Owning on many occasions you said I created this page and why 'Syber' or other editors are editing this page? You're also not aware that on Wikipedia any page or content is not your personal property.
No, you don't have to revert other's edits violating 3RR rule and edit war. You violated 3RR on Muslim Gujars then still you're edit waring on Yahya Khan (Lahore) against improvements.[18][19][20][21] British census reports are outdated and unreliable for ethnic/caste claims in the Indian subcontinent.
I believe edit summaries are mandatory for removing content & sources from pages or replacing pre-existing content with new content that you were doing.
I didn't accuse you of sockpuppetry. I raised a concern that the page, Yahya Khan Bahadur was created 2-3 times by socks and deleted under G5 then the reviewing admin said the content is different from the previous sock's versions.[22] Sybercracker (talk) 23:20, 28 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Anpanman11 All issues mentioned in this report were also of concern to an admin. He said there were sourcing & copyright issues and you need to provide pages, and quotes from the sources.[23] Other editors also gave you warnings for disruption. You're not accepting your mistakes when you know you committed them, and you're not in the mood to listen to anyone. I think you'll repeat all these mistakes purposely If you'll be allowed to go unsanctioned.
In your comment you said "I'm not your father...?" I believe It is WP:UNCIVIL.
There was a clear copyright violation. Sybercracker (talk) 01:53, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Tamzin: @CoffeeCrumbs: After ECR reminder Indian military history social group.[24][25][26][27] Sybercracker (talk) 10:47, 3 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

User_talk:Anpanman11#c-Sybercracker-20250727220400-Notice

Discussion concerning Anpanman11

Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator.
Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks.

Statement by Anpanman11

Moved into own section in reply to filer. Black Kite (talk) 15:14, 29 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

1. I already discussed the matter with @Diannaa and she restored my edit

2. I had to revert your edit as it cited wrong figures with unreliable sources claiming here are 33 million Muslim Gujjars in Pakistan. British census data put the number of Gujjars at around 2m only.

3. Those were unnecessary edits on a page you knew nothing about. You added nothing to the page itself. You merely used it to increase the number of your edits.

4. Unlike you, I always quote authoritative and contemporary or semi-contemporary sources. The fact you're calling these "outdated" tells a lot about your knowledge about how historical sources work.

5. Edit summaries aren't mandatory.

6. You're the one who accused me of being a sockpuppet. You're the one who came up with false allegations.

Also, it's impressive that you've learned how to launch discussions, complaints, accuse someone of being a sockpuppet etc. all within a month of joining Wikipedia. Anpanman11 (talk) 10:30, 28 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Just recently you mentioned Abdullah Khan Alakozai (a page I created) as a Mughal subahdar. Had you read the very first line of the article you would've known he was an Afghan and had nothing to do with the Mughals. It seems you're the one who has basic reading competence issues. Anpanman11 (talk) 10:36, 28 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Moved into own section again: I believe this one is a reply to Sybercracker (below). Black Kite (talk) 15:14, 29 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Don't teach me what sources to use, I know better. You have reading issues and you're trying to teach me my expertise.

1. There was no copyright violation on Muslim Gujjars, that's why my edits were restored.

2. I know it's not my personal property, just as I'm not your father that you have to follow me.

3. Sorry, your edits don't add anything to Yahya Khan (governor).

4. That's your opinion, which doesn't matter.

5. You launched Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Anpanman11 a week before the page Yahya Khan (governor) was created. Anpanman11 (talk) 05:01, 29 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Moved from Sybercracker's section, again. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 07:26, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

1. I edited that page & copyright went from 75 to 22%. Will still edit more if required.

2. Irrelevant

3. If there was a clear copyright violation in your opinion why did the extended editor restored my edits after a discussion? Copyright of old books (1920s) is expired so it can't be a copyright violation. Anyways, you should discuss this with the editor who restored my edit instead of wasting my time. I'm explaining it for the third time now. Anpanman11 (talk) 07:21, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Moved from CoffeeCrumbs' section. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 07:26, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

I'm not aware of any such thing. The pages are not locked. Anpanman11 (talk) 07:22, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Moved from admins' section. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 07:31, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

i think you should elaborate. I don't see Shams Khan page locked. Anpanman11 (talk) 07:23, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

why are they protected now? What else can I edit? This was my expertise. Anpanman11 (talk) 07:25, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

CoffeeCrumbs, "India" historically referred to a broad and vaguely defined region. The people of Hazara are different from Indians and don't consider themselves Indians. In fact they'd feel insulted being lebelled as such. They have a separate identity, a different language, values, culture, and code of conduct. India usually referred to the lands beyond the Indus, and Amb being to its West is excluded. Anpanman11 (talk) 10:41, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Amb was an independent state. It wasn't part of the Sikh Empire. NWFP was just one of the many administrative units created by the British in South Asia just as Burma for example. Both aren't part of India. Anpanman11 (talk) 10:52, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

In fact I didn't in this case. All the territories west of the Indus river weren't part of India. This region is historically called Hazara or Pakhli, and it was part of Pakhtunkhwa, Roh, or Afghanistan. The British included it in India just as they did with Burma and other regions. Both are racially, civilizationally, culturally, ethnically, morally, and linguistically distinct regions from India. Anpanman11 (talk) 11:09, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by CoffeeCrumbs

Just want to note that Anpanman is continuing to edit the area covered in the recent Indian military history case [28]. I'm not sure how aware they are, though, of the consequences of the very recent arbitration case that placed this area under ECP protection. Anpanman11, can you confirm whether or not you are aware that editing Indian military history topics now requires an editor to have WP:ECP status? CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 04:21, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Tamzin, I think my biggest concern is that Anpanman11 has stopped engaging about this, and in fact, their response to others making it clear what extended-confirmed protection meant was to continue making those edits, with no acknowledgement they understand what the problem is. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 16:05, 3 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Aaaaand he's back and editing in the same area [29], [30], [31], [32]. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 08:30, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hazara region is not in India. It's Afghanistan/Pakistan. Anpanman11 (talk) 09:54, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

No, "Indian military history" does not mean simply things that happen within the post-1947 India borders, nor did the case focus on that. This is an absurd level of Wikilawyering to edit in areas you're not supposed to be editing. And for the millionth time, reply to things in your own section not in those of others. This rapidly becoming an instance of WP:IDHT. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 10:15, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

asilvering, just to note, the Sikh empire some of the edits were talking about encompassed parts of the Maratha empire, which was one of the focal points of the arbitration case. I fear that if "Indian military history" just means "the modern state of India, only within the post-1947 borders of India" it's going to be a mess. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 10:22, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

In addition, the very first sentence of Mir Jehandad Khan explicitly notes that this was in British India. I don't think it's a stretch to call a military leader fighting the Sikh Empire in British India something related to military history. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 10:27, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Anpanman11 Yes, a broad and vaguely defined region, which you may not edit the military history of while you're not extended confirmed. Frankly, while it seemed a stern warning to stay out of this area until you are extended confirmed was appropriate two weeks ago, given that you do not respond to warnings or even a temporary block, I think a topic ban from South Asian military history, broadly construed, is appropriate, and would urge the administrators evaluating the case to consider that action. I do not believe that you take this community's policies and guidelines or the community's concerns about your behavior seriously. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 10:51, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Anpanman11, the restriction is not to military history only specifically "called" India within the modern borders of the state of India. Your argument is the equivalent of saying that a battle in Canada during the American Revolution is not part of American military history. In any case, I believe that administrators have more than sufficient evidence to form a decision, so I have nothing more to add. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 11:04, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Now, the editor has edited:

- A Punjabi military figure. [33]

- A military general who "led the military conquests of the eastern Indian regions of Bengali and parts of Bihar." [34]

As I said above, I don't think this editor has any intention to abide by WP:ECR. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 02:25, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement and question by Robert McClenon

I just closed a dispute at DRN between Anpanman11 and Sybercracker that appears to have been related to this dispute, but I have a question. Sybercracker is concerned that there may continue to be a content dispute with Anpanman11. Is Anpanman11 permitted to edit in this topic area? Exactly what articles within the South Asia contentious topic are subject to extended-confirmed restriction? If I should ask this question somewhere else, please let me know where to ask it. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:02, 4 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by ZDRX

The filer has been blocked as a sock puppet.[35] THEZDRX _{(User) |}_(Contact) 04:12, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by (username)

Result concerning Anpanman11

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

Without commenting on any of the more specific allegations here, @Anpanman11, you have to understand that Indian military history and South Asian social groups are now under an extended confirmed restriction. This means that until you have made 500 edits, you cannot create or edit articles like Shamas Khan, Yahya Khan (governor), or Abdullah Khan Alkozai, as these people are primarily known for their military roles. I've draftified the latter two articles as an arbitration enforcement action. Going forward, do you understand this rule? -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 06:01, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Anpanman11: Please read WP:ECR. You may not edit about any topic covered by an ECR, whether or not there is a page protection in place. If a page is all about Indian military history, you cannot edit it at all. If parts of a page are about Indian military history, you cannot edit those parts. Also, please only reply in your own section. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 07:33, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
I've blocked Anpanman11 for 72h as ECR enforcement over Special:Diff/1303999381 and various borderline violations. Is this sufficient for now, or do others feel something beyond that is necessary? FWIW I do also spot another copyvio here (cf. [36]), although it's not egregious. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 11:27, 3 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@CoffeeCrumbs: My philosophy on ECR enforcement for people who seem to truly be ignoring the ECR as if it doesn't exist at all, is that the first block is an AE tempblock and the second is a non-AE indef for DE/CIR. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 16:12, 3 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Regarding CIR, the fact that various people have had to move Anpanman11's submissions into the correct section five times suggests that they aren't exactly showing competence or reading ability at the moment. Black Kite (talk) 18:51, 3 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
They're now editing on Pakistan milhist, which... -- asilvering (talk) 05:09, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@CoffeeCrumbs yeah, I'm aware. @Anpanman11, please meditate on the words "broadly construed". -- asilvering (talk) 12:14, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Tamzin, I'm taking you up on this. -- asilvering (talk) 02:57, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
You have reading issues and you're trying to teach me my expertise. 1. There was no copyright violation on Muslim Gujjars, that's why my edits were restored. Yeesh. In view of the attitude over the copyvio and this kind of mindset, I'm not sure about their compatibility on the site overall. Copyright indefs kick in at 5 clear instances; you can have a minor instance if the rest are egregious. 3/5 of the way there is not great. When this 72h block ends I'm not optimisitc about further actions being unnecessary. Sennecaster (Chat) 19:15, 5 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Bump to prevent archival. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:24, 19 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Mikewem

Latest comment: 8 days ago22 comments7 people in discussion

Closing with an indefinite topic ban from Israel-Palestine (WP:PIA), broadly construed. Appeals only to WP:ARCA. Ealdgyth (talk) 13:20, 18 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Request concerning Mikewem

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: M.Bitton (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 03:36, 28 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

User against whom enforcement is requested: Mikewem (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced

WP:PIA

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

Zionism: 27-July-2025 they restored their changes while making a claim about copyvio and commenting about some unrelated minor changes.
Zionism: 27-July-2025 they admitted that they are violating the rule that says "Changes challenged by reversion may not be reinstated without affirmative consensus on the talk page", though their explanation for doing so is baseless (as you shall see in the additional comments section).
Zionism: 14-July-2025 they removed the section about the Haredi (while falsely claiming that it's not about “anti-Zionism”).
Zionism: 27-July-2025 they removed part of the Haredi section (this time claiming that it's fringe).
Non Jewish victims of Nazi Germany: in two successive edits, they removed the estimate death toll of the non Jewish civilians (while claiming that it's the "Most common description") and then, they removed more content (while claiming that "Modern scholarship says not to focus on this kind of numerical total"). A few days later, they removed the sources and the content about the death toll of non-Jewish civilians.
Double standard: 27-July-2025 they restored unsourced content while falsely claiming that "lots of sources call [the early Muslim conquests] colonialism". This is an editor who doesn't hesitate to remove what they think is FRINGE (as evidenced by this edit on the Zionism article). Struck as withdrawn. ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 21:19, 4 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

User_talk:Mikewem#October_2024_2 blocked for edit warring on the Zionism article.
User_talk:Mikewem#October_2024_3 indeffed for WP:BATTLEGROUND attitude and clear intent to ignore WP:PIA. Their unblock appeal was accepted by ScottishFinnishRadish and Rosguill.
User_talk:Mikewem#Notice_that_you_are_now_subject_to_an_arbitration_enforcement_sanction they were subject to an arbitrary enforcement sanction because of their edits on the Zionism article (again).

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Regarding diffs 1 and 2: after an IP left a comment on the Zionism talk page about a possible grammar error, Mikewem took the opportunity to completely change the paragraph (while claiming to address the raised issue). I reverted their edit, addressed one of the issues that was raised by the IP and left an explanation on the talk page. Mikewem restored their edit while making a baseless claim about copyvio (something that even if true, wouldn't justify all the changes). When challenged to prove their claim (I was very specific), they gave a non answer. When I insisted, they made a completely baseless claim about copyvio and ignored the rest of my comment. When I asked them (again) to self-revert, they provided this reply (which ignores what I said). The rule of not restoring challenged material (mentioned at the top of the article's talk page) has served us well and kept the disruption to a minimum, so for them to deliberately ignore it is disruptive at best.

diffs 3 and 4 are more or less about the same rule that they obviously have no respect for.

The other diffs are self-explanatory. M.Bitton (talk) 03:36, 28 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Mikewem: ignore 5 and 6 (per SilverLocust). M.Bitton (talk) 12:13, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Contrary to what Mikewem is now falsely claiming (after avoiding the report for weeks), they DID NOT self-revert (even when given all the chances to respect the rules). The rest of their comment doesn't deserve a reply. M.Bitton (talk) 12:11, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Statement by Mikewem

I’m not sure I can give an initial response before receiving more clarification. I don’t understand how diffs 5 and 6 relate to PIA enforcement, so I feel like I must be misunderstanding some important aspect of this report or of PIA. I’m sorry for asking @M.Bitton:, but would you be willing to provide a more detailed explanation for your inclusion of 5 and 6? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikewem (talk • contribs) 22:41, 29 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

It wasn’t a violation of consensus required because there was no identifiable challenge made to my changes at the time of reversion, and because once M.Bitton finally identified what part of the edit they were actually challenging, I immediately self-reverted that part. [37]

This report was two thirds groundless at the time it was filed. It is now half groundless. The banner at the top defines groundless reports as disruptive. Mikewem (talk) 10:35, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

The reason I said I thought it was a copyright violation is that I thought it was a copyright violation. The exact content at question appears in a different part of the article with slightly different wording (sense of being a nation), and with lower case divine providence. Zionism#National self-determination In contrast to the Zionist notion of nationhood, the Judaic sense of being a nation was rooted in religious beliefs of unique chosenness and divine providence, rather than in ethnicity. Mikewem (talk) 10:48, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

If saying Mikewem is now falsely claiming in the face of a provided diff that unambiguously shows a partial self-revert is not casting aspersions, I don’t know what is.

The thread is at Talk:Zionism/Archive 37#Blatant Grammar Error/Sentence Fragment/Subtitling Issue. Their chief complaint appeared to be that I “reshuffled the paragraph”. Even though they didn’t provide a reason of why they objected to swapping the order of two adjacent sentences, in the name of collaboration, I undid the “reshuffling”. Mikewem (talk) 13:48, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

If any third opinion has weighed in on whether or not it was a copyright violation, I would have immediately self-reverted that part of the edit. The first third opinion was give here [38], about 6 hours after this report was filed. I didn’t argue or push back at all. Mikewem (talk) 17:43, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Cdjp1

As I have looked into and commented on a couple of the edits identified here, I’ll add what I found for the recod.

On the claim of copyvio, Mikewem argues that the phrase "notion of being a nation" is a copyvio of the lyric "notion of a nation" from the song "Non-stop" from the musical Hamilton. If we do a quick Google Scholar search for the exact lyric, we find it appearing in 1,270 results prior to 2012, which is prior to the first public showing of what was then the Hamilton Mixtape in 2013. Or if we want to go prior to 2009, when Miranda has stated he started working initially on Hamilton, the results are 1,010. This should be more than enough to show that the exact lyric is a common enough phrase in academic discussions of things like nationhood to not be a copyvio of a musical that came about after the scholarly sources looked at. We can then move on to how "notion of being a nation" is a different phrase to the lyric "notion of a nation". To put it bluntly, I very much believe any claim of copyvio is fallacious and is being used to justify the removal of a sentence that Mikewem doesn't like.

Secondly on "lots of sources call [the early Muslim conquests] colonialism", they later added a reference to support the claim, which was a single unpublished paper, that was written by Craig S. Wright, a person who only has degrees in computer science, works in financial technology, has no history of publication in relevant topic areas, and was found by UK courts to lie about what he has done/achieved. This is a potential indicator of a poor ability to assess the validity and references of sources. -- Cdjp1 (talk) 09:58, 28 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Absolutiva

Mikewem also involved by changing short description for The Holocaust to include dates as it fail WP:SDDATES, this was frequently discussed on Talk:The Holocaust#Short description. But I attempt to change this short description before it was changed or reverted by Mikewem (1, 2, 3). Absolutiva 01:01, 2 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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On diffs 1 and 2, that looks like a clear consensus-required violation. The "affirmative consensus on the talk page" requirement does need to be via discussion on the talk page – not merely citing (implicitly) things like the WP:COPYVIO policy, MOS:CAPS guidelines, or the WP:UCR essay. (And the asserted copyright violation is not remotely a copyright violation.)
On diffs 5 and 6, I think Mikewem is correct that those edits are not within WP:PIA. The subjects of victims of Nazi Germany and early Muslim conquests are not generally within the Arab–Israeli conflict topic area. ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 03:17, 29 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Absolutiva: Likewise, those edits regarding the Holocaust are not in the WP:PIA topic area. ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 02:00, 2 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Until this thread is resolved, I have now temporarily topic banned Mikewem (limited to articles/article talk pages). On 4 August, they said on their talk page that they would respond. No response has been forthcoming, even as Mikewem has continued editing at Zionism/Talk:Zionism. ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 23:37, 10 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Mikewem: Today you violated the topic ban I imposed a week ago. Editing Jewish supremacy (and in particular editing the intro sentence that says "arises in some discourse about the Israeli–Palestinian conflict") is a an edit "relating to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly construed". ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 18:06, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I did not see PIA in the first sentence that I removed. I can see how even an edit that just bolds the title words in the 2nd sentence violates the ban. Self-reverting now. Mikewem (talk) 18:43, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I am having a lot of trouble assuming good faith on the copyright removals. A four-word phrase from an unrelated work, not even identical to the five-word phrase used on-wiki? Seriously? Editors do get weird ideas sometimes about how copyright works (partly because our copyright-related policies intentionally exceed, and also sometimes unintentionally misstate, copyright law, I say with a cough in the direction of WP:COPYLINK), but there's only so much AGF I'm willing to extend given the history of sanctions here. The minimum outcome I can see here is a balanced editing restriction (noting that per N95 Mikewem is currently at 74% [133/180] PIA edits in the past 30 days), but at this moment I lean more toward a full TBAN. We do not need editors in this topic area weaponizing policies to gain the upper hand. As with most PIA sanctions, I favor making this thread's outcome, whatever it is, appealable only to ARCA. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 04:53, 29 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Nothing in the 3 weeks since I wrote the above comment gives me the impression that Mikewem has any interest in complying with the expectations in this topic area. Support an indefinite topic ban, appealable to ARCA. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 08:40, 18 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I'm not totally sold on a full TBAN here, depending on further replies from Mikewem, but I agree that the first two diffs appear to violate the consensus required requirement. (That's a ... weird mouthful). And I find the "alleged" copyright violation to be so much of a reach that I'm having trouble assuming good faith on Mikewem's part for putting it forward. The fact that Mikewem was already indeffed but unblocked less than a year ago is not exactly encouraging. Ealdgyth (talk) 19:13, 30 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
- Sorry for dropping the thread here - was busy with stuff outside wiki. I don't see that Mikewem's replied here although they have made some edits. Are we thinking solidifying the TBAN or do others have thoughts? Ealdgyth (talk) 23:01, 15 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Arbitration enforcement action appeal by IdanST

Latest comment: 4 days ago13 comments8 people in discussion

Moved from Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment

Initiated by IdanST at 10:25, 6 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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IdanST (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (initiator)

Information about amendment request

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I followed step #1 (contacting the administrator), which was rejected, and I'm now following steps #2 and #3.

Statement by IdanST

Hey,

Since I was topic banned nine months ago, I’ve made over 500 substantial edits on English Wikipedia, as well as more than 18,000 edits across Wikimedia projects.

I apologize for my past behavior and acknowledge that I wasn’t ready to contribute constructively to contentious topics at the time. However, I now believe I’m better prepared and could contribute more effectively if the topic ban were lifted.

asilvering, sure. Prior to the topic ban, I was blocked twice for WP:ECR violations. Then, I translated Rapid Response Unit (Israel) from its Origin[he] in he.wiki, which resulted in a fast deletion and topic ban for WP:ECR, reviewing RS of Air Force articles and using the word "terrorist" in that translated article . I specifically disagree with the latter part, since there are dozens of articles that use that word, and in this case it was simply a cross-wiki translation.

After I was topic banned, I began editing in he.wiki, where I have made over 20,000 edits and translated more than 300 cross-wiki articles. A lot of my work has focused on aviation-related articles, but I have also translated a few politically sensitive articles, such as Basel Adra, We Will Dance Again, and others. All of my articles have been received in good faith. While some of the political ones were later edited by other users who felt they were not fully NPOV, not a single article I translated there has been deleted — whereas all of the cross-wiki articles I translated here were deleted.

As for what I have learned: almost all of my blocks and sanctions were due to WP:ECR, but I have long since moved past that, so it cannot be repeated. In addition, when I first started editing, I did not always behave well because I was new, unfamiliar with procedures, and unsure how to remain polite in difficult situations (as SFR once wrote, I "must assume good faith"). Since then, I have learned these lessons while editing in he.wiki. Furthermore, due to my past experiences with translating articles here, I will no longer translate articles into en.wiki. IdanST (talk) 08:15, 22 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

BTW, although all the articles I translated were deleted, Bybit was later recreated by another editor, but none of my earlier edits were restored. The rest of the deleted translated articles remain deleted. IdanST (talk) 08:37, 22 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Tamzin, I never said I had "run into POV issues" in he.wiki, nor was I ever involved in such. Also, please elaborate on your conclusion that I am "still having content faulted on hewiki for not being neutral by their standards," because I was never accused of not being neutral in he.wiki. All I said is that some editors made edits to a few articles I translated. To elaborate, some of them believe en.wiki articles themselves are not neutral. So, do you mean by your words that en.wiki is not neutral?

Tamzin, Anybody on he.wiki can edit articles; that doesn’t necessarily mean they are in bad condition or have NPOV issues. IdanST (talk) 09:06, 22 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Arbitrator response from when this was originally filed at ARCA

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IdanST appeal: Arbitrator views and discussion

@IdanST: the Arbitration Committee generally isn't the right body to appeal a CTOP restriction to, if it's on the basis of changed behavior. We only overturn CTOP actions under very narrow circumstances, usually having to do with the CTOP action being problematic when it was placed. Like the sanctioning administrator said, a better place to plead this case would be at WP:AN or WP:AE, if that's the path you're looking to take. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 09:55, 6 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Agree with leeky above; Wikipedia:Contentious topics#On community review (ie. AN or AE) allows for an appeal on the grounds that "the action is no longer reasonably necessary to prevent damage or disruption" which seems to best align with the purpose of this appeal, while the three criteria ARCA can consider does not include this. Daniel (talk) 10:10, 6 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Recused, as I placed this sanction. I do agree with what was said by my esteemed colleagues though, which is why I said to appeal at AE or AN in my response. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:40, 6 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Result concerning IdanST

It seems nobody wants to comment on this, so I guess I'll tackle it. The appeal is a bit lighter on details than I would like, but at the same time IdanST seems to have gotten into no trouble at all in the hundreds of edits and many months since their most recent block expired in February, so we may as well give them a chance, and if there is recidivism a re-ban is always a possibility. (Other admins may well see differently; my positions on user conduct matters are idiosyncratic at best) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:23, 19 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@ScottishFinnishRadish: Would you like to comment (as the sanctioning administrator, not as an arb) on this appeal? Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:11, 19 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
My thoughts are roughly what I expressed at WP:ARCA recently, the topic is still to "hot", for lack of a better term, to unban editors in this topic right now. In this case, the behavior was less severe and there's recent editing that looks constructive, so I wouldn't be strongly opposed. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:14, 20 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
IdanST, can you give us a bit more to go on? For example, can you explain in your own words why you were banned, what you've learned since, and how you'll avoid the same problems? Thanks. -- asilvering (talk) 14:17, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I appreciate Idan's candor in acknowledging having run into POV issues on hewiki, but to me that sounds like a pretty big deal. Idan's POV is closer to what hewiki defines as neutral than to what enwiki defines as neutral; if Idan is still having content faulted on hewiki for not being neutral by their standards, that bodes poorly for letting them back into the topic area here on enwiki. And the fact that there's no engagement with this issue—no introspection into why their edits were seen as non-neutral there—bodes even more poorly. I don't see grounds to unban. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 08:28, 22 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@IdanST: I'm just going off of your own statement that some of the political ones were later edited by other users who felt they were not fully NPOV. If what you mean by that is that you were copying enwiki content blindly without regard for whether it complied with local policies, than that would seem to just be the mirror-image situation of what you describe happening here leading up to your TBAN. The English and Hebrew Wikipedias have different policies, guidelines, and norms, and an editor translating from one wiki to another is expected to ensure that their article is in compliance. You take responsibility for every edit you make to a wiki, even if it's derived from something elsewhere. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 08:56, 22 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Gianni888

Latest comment: 6 days ago5 comments2 people in discussion

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Request concerning Gianni888

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Pppery (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 15:20, 10 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

User against whom enforcement is requested: Gianni888 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Contentious topics/South Asia#GSCASTE extended-confirmed restriction

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

10 August 2025 turns an article on a surname into a clan in violation of ECR
1-7 August 2025: Created Draft:List_of_Kamboj_Personalities_and_Families

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Previously given a discretionary sanction or contentious topic restriction or warned for conduct in the area of conflict on 1 August 2025 by Agent VII (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA).

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

See also Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1195#User:Kambojahistory is engaged in disruption only which discussed Gianni tangentially. I've already ECP-ed Sagoo as an AE action since it's been subject to a long, long history of hijackings of that sort, bringing this here to discuss sanctions for Gianni888, which is an area I prefer to stay out of as an admin (and promised I would in my RfA). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:20, 10 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

In response to SilverLocust, at least the edits to Sagoo were disruptive on their own merits (unilaterally attempting to overturn Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sagoo) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:16, 11 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Bump to prevent this from being archived unanswered. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:18, 19 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Statement by Gianni888

Sorry if i broke any laws of wikipedia but i was just trying to associate the saggu/sagoo page with caste identity because my grandmother is a saggu/sagoo and to find out her history ask my father and therefore i thought that it would be useful to show that Saggu/Saggoo Lineage belongs to Jat and Ramgharia

And for the Draft:List_of_Kamboj_Personalities_and_Families, my fathers lineage is Kamboj and whenever i meet a Kamboj they never know anything about the history of the Kamboj community so i thought it would be a bright idea to show people and my family the notable Kamboj/Kambohs of history

the main reason i origninally created my wiki account was to edit the Kamboj page

Sorry if i broke any rules on Wikipedia

Sincerely Gianni888

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Result concerning Gianni888

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Since Gianni888 apparently had not been specifically told about WP:ARBECR before this, I wouldn't sanction them merely for violating ECR (beyond a warning). The alert templates {{subst:Alert|topic=sa}} and {{subst:Alert/first|topic=sa}} have since been updated to include ECR information. ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 22:37, 10 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Keith Thomas (record producer)

Latest comment: 8 days ago10 comments4 people in discussion

Semi'd 5 years. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:41, 17 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: Jéské Couriano (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 22:39, 12 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Sanction or remedy to be enforced: GENSEX, BLP

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

2019/10/08 17:24 - BLP vio; earliest diff of this
2019/12/02 02:41 - BLP vio (The edit before this one was also a BLP violation but not relevant to this case)
2020/08/07 05:55 - BLP vio
2020/12/27 18:23 - BLP vio
2022/12/13 22:48 - Good-faith insertion of contested BLP material (Editor would edit this paragraph over the next few edits, including to add a questionable source)
2023/01/29 21:27 - Good-faith restoration of contested BLP material
2023/01/29 21:35 - Good-faith restoration of contested BLP material
2023/04/12 00:35 - BLP vio
2023/11/08 13:26 - BLP vio
2025/07/25 03:02 - Bad-faith insertion of contested BLP material

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

N/A, seeking page-level sanctions

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N/A, seeking page-level sanctions

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

I apologise for the very nonstandard request again, and the situation is the same as it was back then. (Seriously, we need an ArbEnf template for articles, not just users.)

I'm here to seek an indefinite semi-protection on Keith Thomas (record producer) under the GS and BLP CTOPs due to what appears to be a long-term campaign to draw undue attention to a lawsuit filed (and then apparently quickly settled) against him as part of #MeToo that has been ongoing ever since the lawsuit was filed in late 2019. Someone claiming to be the article's subject complained about it on the Help Desk, which prompted me to do some digging. I can't find any sources about the lawsuit that aren't strictly about its filing (hence my hedge above), and this content seems to frequently find its way into the lede courtesy of unregistered users. I am bringing it here rather than WP:RFPP/I because this is a situation where I would rather have a consensus to protect the page rather than a unilateral action that could easily be challenged after a year. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 22:39, 12 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Voorts: GS is being invoked because the allegations are connected to #MeToo, which is unambiguously in that topic area. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{threads critiques} 02:34, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Discussion concerning Keith Thomas (record producer)

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Result concerning Keith Thomas (record producer)

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SEMI is generally for high-traffic pages. PCP makes more sense here. Given that this is a BLP and the allegations are extremely serious, I would be in favor of indefinite PCP under BLP. I don't think "broadly construed" can be stretched far enough for this to be covered by GENSEX; the IP editors are adding this to portray the article subject in a particular way, not comment on gender/sexuality. voorts (talk/contributions) 02:31, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

The fact that a lawsuit was filed during the MeToo era does not make it fall under GENSEX. voorts (talk/contributions) 14:28, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

PC is a poor solution for BLPs as it allows the disruptive content to be viewed in the history. For articles subject to serious BLP concerns (as opposed to occasional drive by vandalism) semi-protection should be used. It's better to protect the subjects of our articles than to kowtow to the ideal of '"the encyclopedia that anyone can edit".-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 17:08, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

The page history cat is already out of the bag, no? voorts (talk/contributions) 20:12, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

I'm not sure how that matters. We don't allow BLP violations to continue just because there have been BLP violations in the past. PC is an ok tool for dealing with articles hit with periodic vandalism or unsourced content but a piss poor tool for protecting BLP subjects. -- Ponyo^{bons mots} 20:33, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

This is an article being hit with periodic vandalsim, and WP:PCPP says it should be used for BLP violations, which is why I suggested it. SEMI seems like overkill for an article that's edited every few years. voorts (talk/contributions) 21:11, 13 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Tiny Particle

Latest comment: 3 days ago8 comments5 people in discussion

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Request concerning Tiny Particle

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: LokiTheLiar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 00:15, 18 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

User against whom enforcement is requested: Tiny Particle (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: WP:GENSEX

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

15 August 2025 [39] [40] [41] Copies text from likely-to-be-deleted article Dutch Protocol to four other articles
15 August 2025 [42] [43] Reverts change with edit summary including text You are actively trying to salt the Dutch Protocol, so the depth is needed here.
17 August 2025 Makes strange comment linking to all the new articles at an ArbCom case.
17 August 2025 Another strange comment linking to comments made by several of the article subjects.
17 August 2025 Yet another strange accusatory comment, this time implying he's doing this for anti-trans POV-pushing reasons.
17 August 2025 When the above comments predictably get one of the people at the Dutch Protocol AfD to notice and bring the new articles to AfD also, accuses her of meatpuppetry for notifying the Dutch Protocol AfD of the other AfDs. (Update: this diff has been struck at the urging of other editors.)

Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any

N/A

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Alerted about discretionary sanctions or contentious topics in the area of conflict, on 16 February 2025 (see the system log linked to above).

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

On 12 August 2025 an AfD was opened for the article Dutch Protocol, which Tiny Particle was largely responsible for writing based on the Dutch wiki's version. The issue, as pointed out by the opener, was that the article largely served as a WP:POVFORK to puberty blockers. As an apparent attempt to circumvent the AfD, Tiny Particle then created a bunch of other POVFORK articles about all the names mentioned in the Dutch Protocol article, explicitly copying text from Dutch Protocol to do so. When challenged on some of this new text they admit that they're doing it as a reaction to the AfD.

Then, a few days later, they made a series of strange comments at an ArbCom case they're not a party to. In these comments they linked all the new articles and made a bunch of weird comments seeming to assert that being trans is a mental illness (against an explicit community consensus to the contrary). They also linked to several articles on a trans activist site saying the subjects of the new articles are anti-trans or gatekeepers, though they did so in apparent approval of the article subjects' (alleged) gatekeepiness. Another comment of theirs supportively quoted Wes Streeting saying that trans women are not women, which suggests to me they're doing all this for anti-trans POV-pushy reasons.

Shortly after, probably because of the attention that these comments drew to the new articles, those were listed at AfD as well. In reaction to a notification of this new AfD on the original Dutch Protocol AfD, Tiny Particle accused the lister of meatpuppetry (which isn't even the right policy, I think they mean WP:CANVASSING).

Basically I think this person is showing huge WP:OWNership behavior and is generally trying to circumvent AfD to push a POV through a bunch of POVFORKs.

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Statement by Tiny Particle

Tiny Particle's statement contains 445 words and complies with the 500-word limit.

15 August 2025 [45] [46] [47] Created Four articles, each one of which is WP:Notable so "building the encyclopedia"

17 August 2025 This is a Arbcom workshop Comment by others: which I am perfectly entitled to make

I was asked a question. The OP post was in three parts and contained a question directly addressed to me

17 August 2025 I address point 3
17 August 2025 I address point 1&2

The remaining diffs presented:

15 August 2025 [48] [49] I believe the Reverts follow WP:BRD
17 August 2025 The accusation of meatpuppetry is due to blatant WP:Canvass Here

It is nonsense that the dutch protocol is a WP:POVFORK/duplicate article to puberty blockers. I have never read or commented on the Puberty Blockers. The links I added were by means of CtrlF. Also the administration of PBs is just one disipline in the multi-displinary dutch protocol. Problems which don't require deletion, including articles needing improvement, duplicate articles, or POV problems. The Dutch protocol AFD is malformed claiming that the dutch author is banned. I believe this is untrue.

Yes I am not party to the current ArbCom case which is why I left my comment at Comment by others: I believe I clearly made the point that, no matter what the consensus, You can't have your cake and eat it. If there is no illness then there will be no (free) medical care as it is not needed by definition.

Addressing YFNS below I asked AI how to do an author-link3 I also asked for a reliable source link for Peggy C-K's dob to start the article. I find AI to be too verbose and inaccurate to be much use for a content writer. I copy alot from other articles because there is so much overlap. If someone has already written a sentence about say a football/soccer match there are potentialy 11x2=22 articles where that article could be incrementally improved.

That you have a Phd does not change the fact that "Medication is a drug used to diagnose, cure, treat, or prevent disease" Your document [50] mentions "Non-Surgical Interventions". Per wiki Intervention (disambiguation): Medical intervention, therapy to treat health problems.

They are WP:Notable by the sheer influence they have had outside their own country.

I can see one editor blocked for 9 months. By repeating an error it becomes a lie

@Asilvering::I commented above I asked AI how to do an author-link3 I also asked for a reliable source link for Peggy C-K's dob to start the article. I find AI to be too verbose and inaccurate to be much use for a content writer. I am not aware of the elsewhere that you mention?

Statement by YFNS

YFNS's statement contains 547 words and is within 10% of the 500-word limit.

I raised issues with Tiny Particle's editing on their talk page which they never replied to[51] Some particular issues include:

Using the "A Wider Lens" podcast by pro-conversion therapy group Genspect as a source despite being told repeatedly that's not good
- TP knew this was a bad source - at Dutch Protocol I removed poor sourcing[52], TP reverted and asked me to do it source by source, which I did, particularly noting the AWS podcast[53]. After that, TP makes an edit just to add the AWS podcast to a BLP[54], redirects the podcast name to it's host so knows who created it[55], and then adds the source to another BLP[56]

Really weird / POV redirects (improperly redirecting terms about populations to medical articles)...
- Redirects transgender children from transgender youth to gender dysphoria in children [57]
- Redirects transgender and gender diverse to Standards of Care for the Health of Transgender and Gender Diverse People [58]

Further, I want to flag the use of AI, these articles where apparently written using ChatGPT as the UTM codes for chatGPT where present in the citations[59]

Regarding what TP has said here:

They are not WP:Notable, I explicitly said as much, noting the articles are written almost entirely based on OR of things the subjects wrote with little to no independent coverage[60][61]
The comment left at ARBCOM was espouse a FRINGE view that the community has found MEDRS don't support[62]
- Moreover, they claim the NHS endorsed this view. I quote the NHS saying the opposite[63], Loki notes they're getting the definition of gender dysphoria backward[64]
- They claim Yes there is "Gender dysphoria with mental illness comorbidity" - we have a patient for treatment. "Gender dysphoria without mental illness comorbidity" - no taxpayer funded treatment necessary. - this seems like an LLM hallucination? I've written about trans healthcare for half a decade now, and am getting a PhD in it, I have no clue what this means.
- They then claim that an unelected health minister is the one we should look to, and accuses me of removing evidence The UK Health Minister has said those who used to argue “trans women are women” should have the “humility” to admit they were not right. He changed his mind when presented with evidence. The evidence is out there but YFNS likes to remove from this encyclopedia.
- Bizarelly, accuses a number of BLP's of pathologizing trans people because their studies used the term "gender identity disorder"[65]. I need to point out, when those studies where written, that was the name of the diagnosis (which was pathologizing, but was a field-wide issue addressed a decade ago).

Regarding the article of the NLWiki Dutch Protocol being written by a banned editor, it absolutely was. No other editor has disputed that. TP keeps arguing they're not in a way that borders on sealioning[66][67][68][69][70]

Here is the AE case that resulted in a near-instant NOTHERE block for that editor, which links to the NLWiki cases resulting in blocks[71]. If you ask me to dig it up, I can find account blocks and IP blocks across multiple wikis and globally for that user.

Their behavior has been really weird. I don't have better words than that for it. I'd support a TBAN for wasting other editors time. I originally thought it wasn't necessary and tried explaining issues to them directly, but was ignored, so now we're here I guess. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 13:24, 18 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Re LLM hallucination: The NHS only gives hormones when there aren't comorbities[72]. So another false claim. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 16:01, 18 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Licks-Rocks

Wasn't really planning to involve myself, but I ended up Warning this user pretty harshly just prior to their first escapade into arbcom because by then a visit to AE was already pretty much unavoidable. Safe to say they haven't listened.. --Licks-rocks (talk) 17:26, 18 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by DanielRigal

A lot of this looks like an overconfident editor acting like a bull in a china shop, which is normally just grounds for a warning to dial it back a bit, but diffs 5 and 6 are different and more concerning. Those cross the line into unfounded accusations and personal attacks. The use of LLMs is also concerning as LLMs are very good at (intentionally or otherwise) making bad content that looks superficially plausible. Finally, the doubling down when problems are pointed out is definitely not encouraging. I think some sanction is required. I'm not sure how severe it should be but their statement above does not give me much hope that Tiny Particle will be able to edit constructively in this topic area. --DanielRigal (talk) 23:11, 18 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Diff 6 is obviously inappropriate; YFNS's edit to the AfD was in no way WP:CANVASSing, but that post on the arb case might be. -- asilvering (talk) 11:27, 18 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Tiny Particle, a number of editors have raised concerns about your use of LLMs, here and elsewhere. Would you comment on that, please? -- asilvering (talk) 14:14, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Tiny Particle, if you want to ping someone, you need to sign your post.

As for the rest, well, the text copied into various articles from Dutch Protocol was also clearly an attempt to get around the ongoing AfD, transparently stated as such in the edit summaries. And if we're not looking at LLM hallucinations, we're looking at either pov-pushing or WP:OR indistinguishable from pov-pushing, the most striking example of which came in after this case was filed: [73]. Accordingly, unless another admin jumps in to object in the next 24 hours or so, I will tban from "transgender healthcare, broadly construed". Narrower than GENSEX, but appears to be sufficient in this case. -- asilvering (talk) 08:04, 23 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Feline Frame-Up

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Sock CU blocked, but they were going to be indeffed anyways… Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 11:42, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Special:Diff/1306849852 He got his commercial driver's license from a sanctuary state that doesn't care about these kinds of safety laws. Very big deal. Very notable subject.

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This editor is engaged in POV-pushing over the alleged dangers of letting undocumented immigrants drive trucks in the U.S. and is clearly WP:NOTHERE. They created 2025 Florida Turnpike crash, which is about a truck accident in Florida where the driver (who is an undocumented immigrant with a commercial driver's license) made an illegal U-turn. I initially moved the article to draft, but this editor insisted on moving it back to mainspace for an AfD discussion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Florida Turnpike crash), where they are currently the only person opposing deletion for reasons that have no grounds in the notability guidelines. After the deletion discussion was opened, the editor copy-pasted the material from that article into Driver's licenses for illegal immigrants in the United States, where they are continuing to defend inclusion without addressing relevant policies and guidelines, despite being pointed to them several times.

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Statement by Feline Frame-Up

I never mentioned the driver's name. I did cite multiple reliable sources that verified all of my claims. What I said is true, and backed up by reliable sources. I never mentioned the driver's name. All I did was write the truth, with reliable sources to back it up. Feline Frame-Up (talk) 09:23, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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As far as I can tell, the entirety of this editor's contributions have been to transparently push a political agenda regarding this one car crash, with the exception of this edit adding an unreliably-sourced GENSEX claim to a BLP and this edit which, fair enough, looks fine. One constructive contribution out of 139 is not a great batting average, and I'm inclined to just indef as NOTHERE. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 09:30, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Please do, Tamzin. Bishonen | tålk 09:34, 21 August 2025 (UTC).Reply

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Apologies if this is not the right venue for the request, but I would like to request that List of The New York Times controversies be added to the Arab–Israeli conflict sanctioned articles, as there has been a clear revert war on content related to this topic -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 02:28, 16 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Icecold

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Icecold has been just sort of, crashing out at people for the last month over what appears to be the Graham Linehan page, and making no other edits beyond that.

Jul 16 2025 [74] Accuses other editors of being activist editors

Jul 16 2025 [75] ditto

Jul 16 2025 [76] Accuses editors of gaslighting because a consensus didn’t go his way

Jul 1 2025 [77] Accuses editors of prioritizing their own feelings over “facts” because consensus didn’t go his way.

22 May 2025 [78] Aspersions against pretty much every editor that disagreed with him in consensus, among other things accusing other editors of “stalking”

22 May 2025 [79] Personal attacks

22 May 2025 [80] ABF, personal attacks

22 May 2025 [81] Personal attacks

22 May 2025 [82] Aspersions

22 May 2025 [83] Admits to using LLM for his text while attacking other editors

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Statement by Icecold

Over-length statement as of 26 August

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This is my final statement on this matter, I will not be engaging with this process futher, I've spent far too much time on this arbitration already. I do request an additional 200 words (from my current 800 [86]) because this arbitation has been unarchived and reopened and I need to express my complete opposition to this.

This case was previously archived without formal action. It was unarchived and reopened by an involved party, apparently due to dissatisfaction with the outcome. Reopening closed cases without new evidence or process error is against best practice (see WP:FORUMSHOP, WP:GAME) and undermines procedural fairness. My understanding is that such actions should be taken only by uninvolved administrators for legitimate reasons. @GraziePrego is not an uninvolved party in this arbitration.

@Tamzin suggested a recent comment I made on another user's page was disruptive. The comment was made after this case was archived, and my intent was only to caution another editor to avoid the same difficulties I faced, not to canvass or disrupt. I now recognize such remarks could be misinterpreted and I will avoid them in the future.

I think the worst criticism of me is that I'm NOTHERE. I think this is completely wrong. This account is 19 years old, this isn't a new fly by account here to edit on one topic. I've made small edits on varying different topics, from cleaning up vandalism [87] to adding new news [88] to challenging incorrect facts [89]. I've since made another unrelated edit after this arbitration was originally archived [90]

So to accuse me of NOTHERE because of edits on talk pages about a contentious article is, in my opinion, disingenuous and casting aspersions on me for my reason for being here. People are also trying to criticise how half of my total edits are on the Graham Linehan talk page, I also think is disingenuous. I had proposed a change request and I obviously had to respond to people who were discussing that request. I've never been involved in a contentious discussion before, so it's clearly going to skew my stats. Pointing to this as evidence I'm only here for one thing, is trying to twist the narrative to get a result they want.

People are trying to link me with a now banned editor, to try and make me look guilty by association. I reached out to this editor because we were arguing for the same changes to the article, and I reached out for advice and to help build a consensus as they appeared to be more knowledgeable about Wikipedia process. No, I hadn't studied their edits and realised they were relatively new editor when I spoke to them. Other involved editors also posted on the banned users talk page and no-one is criticising them for doing so. The other accusation I stand by, I do believe, fundamentally in all aspects of life that any accused person deserves a right of reply, even people who have committed the very worse of real life crimes, so the failure of Wikipedia to allow a user to have one is imo a failure of Wikipedia process. I never defended the user from the ban, just their right of reply.

As for editors speculating on what I might do as an attempt to push for a full Wikipedia ban, you cannot punish people for what they might do. The only controversial article I've edited is Graham Linehan and its talk page. Despite what other people have said I will probably do, in the 2 months since my request was rejected, I haven't edited any other page, I haven't edited other GENSEX articles, or any other “culture war” topics.

Then my stalking allegations. I stand by them, it was clear to me that GP was constantly appearing across 3 talk pages to respond to me when they hadn't been tagged [91] [92] [93]. Once or twice could be a fluke, sure, but more, implies they were following me around. Since this arbitration even, GP has also made a number of edits on my talk page, despite me asking them to leave me alone ([94], [95], [96], [97]. The argument that GP may have other friendly editors on their watchlists falls apart when we consider user Gazumpedheit, whom GP clearly disliked. Editors are defending GP and saying it's not stalking, but if I had engaged in similar behaviour to GP, that these editors would be accusing me of stalking. I was accused of all sorts, such as bludgeoning, when all I was doing was responding to people's arguments against my request, which I feel as someone proposing a request I had a duty to do.

I also stand by my comment that at least one editor was editing based on personal feelings and not following the evidence [98] [99]. If I had said something similar, it would have been brought up against me at this arbitration. That editor earlier got banned for admitting they were editing based on a personal feeling not based on the evidence. Reminding people of that editor's comment isn't a personal attack. I apologise for accusing others of arguing in bad faith, my biggest frustration was that I was asked to find various reputable sources to support my claim, I did so (finding more reputable sources for my claim than reputable sources on the article supporting the status quo), and then this was still denied. My proposed change also brought that article more in line with other equivalent articles that use my wording, so I was following precedent, but that was still denied. That says to me that the article wasn't being evidence-led, but guided by people's opinions, against wikipedia policy.

I am now p-banned as a direct result of this arbitration being unarchived and reopened, after originally being closed with no action. Since a sanction has now been imposed in response to the reopened process, despite my record of voluntary disengagement and the fact that no action was taken when this case was originally closed. Given this I believe that further action would be unnecessary and disproportionate. I request that this arbitration now be closed (again), and not revived for a third time.

Off-topic, but replying to people on an arbitration from mobile is absolutely appalling and practially impossible.

Over-length statement as of 18 July
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Firstly I'm quite suprised to have had this notification.

I'm going to answer each accusation each in turn.

> Jul 16 2025 [47] Accuses other editors of being activist editors

> Jul 1 2025 [49] Accuses editors of prioritizing their own feelings over “facts” because consensus didn’t go his way.

I'm going to answer these both together. I've had editors openly admit that they are editing based on their own feelings:

"Yes, I'm biased against bigots. You'll find that's normal." https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Graham_Linehan&diff=prev&oldid=1290708077

"Yes, I am absolutely taking a moral view, because I don't like bigotry. There is nothing "blinding" me, but I'm not going to bend to the whims of transphobes." https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Graham_Linehan&diff=prev&oldid=1290695156

So the accusation that I've made is justified when I've had people actively tell me this. I also think that the very existance of this arbitaration to try and shut me down because I'm disagreeing with the editors that hang around that page kinda confirms my point.

> Jul 16 2025 [48] Accuses editors of gaslighting because a consensus didn’t go his way

No, i'm accusing someone of gaslighting by saying to a editor that they just need to find reputable sources and they can then get the page changed, because thats what I was told to do, I found these reputable sources (which outnumbered the existing reputable sources that countered it), and then was told my reputable sources didn't matter because editors that follow their own moral compass have already decided what to do.

> 22 May 2025 [50] Aspersions against pretty m>uch every editor that disagreed with him in consensus, among other things accusing other editors of “stalking”

> 22 May 2025 [54] Aspersions

GraziePrego appeared to be stalking me. The full history of what happened is on my talk page, but as a quick summary. If I went to an editors (not GraziePregos) user page to ask a question of the editor, without being tagged GraziePrego would turn up and start getting involved in the discussion. This happened across 2 or 3 different editors talk pages. It felt like my contribution log was being monitored by GraziePrego and then they were jumping in and getting involved in everywhere I posted.

I also was good enough to drop the matter and not persue it at arbitration, something that has clearly ironically been used against me now.

> 22 May 2025 [51] Personal attacks

I had just been accused of taking wikipedia too seriously with an accusation that I was "making a frightful exhibition of yourself." I just pointed out that it seems a bit rich to accuse me of taking wikipedia so seriously when they are a such a prolific editor, and dare say take wikipedia much more seriously than I do. But if that counts as a personal attack, I apologise.

> 22 May 2025 [52] ABF, personal attacks

Thats the same example as the previous one, so I'm not sure what your point is there

> 22 May 2025 [53] Personal attacks

Not a personal attack, I was disagreeing with their editing, made no personal references at all.

> 22 May 2025 [55] Admits to using LLM for his text while attacking other editors

Using an LLM isn't against the rules, and I haven't done it since people complained. The reference to attacking other editors is a direct reference to ref 49 which I've tackled there.

So to summerise, I've been told that me saying that certain editors are making moral opinions and not looking at the facts, when at least one editor has ADMITTED that to me, is apparrently wrong.

I've also been told that accusing someone of stalking me, when they appear to be stalking me, constantly appearing on other editors talk pages when I have posted on them, joining in the discussion, is apparrently wrong, which just seems like you're going after the victim rather than judging if the accused actually did have questionable behaviour (which I think they did).

I haven't contributed to any GENSEX article since the last attempt in May, only 3 comments since May on a talk page. I hardly think thats disruptive behaviour.

I have consistently been evidence led in my contributions to attempting to change an article. Like all editors I have a private view, but I am letting the sources guide the language and any attempt to change it. I personally think any kind of topic ban is a heavy handed approach, and I think sends out the wrong message.

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@Seraphimblade:To summerise my response to your points as briefly as I can to keep within the word limit

I have no problem disageeing with people, but I've had at least one heavily involved editor actually say

> "Yes, I am absolutely taking a moral view, because I don't like bigotry. There is nothing "blinding" me, but I'm not going to bend to the whims of transphobes."

then I think my stance that people who have a particular view of it and are not open to evidence changing their mind, is correct. I don't think reminding people of this comment is a personal attack. I also think the context of my comments is important, for example some comments that have been interpreted as personal attacks were in response to comments that could be interpreted as personal attacks against me. It also depends on your definition of a personal attack, posting a laughing emoji at a statement someone made about a page which I think is laughable, I don't think is a personal attack, I'm laughing at the sentiment expressed.

I also am not happy that because I didn't persue formal action against a user I felt was hounding me, that is somehow a black mark against me - I was trying to stop the situation escalating and avoiding wikipedia drama. The user, to their credit, did stop following me after my comment and so I never persued it.

I admit that some of my comments may not have been worded in the best way, and some may have been percieved as more agressive than they needed to be. However I stand by the core sentiment of my comments. I don't feel like people have been acting in accordance to wikipedia rules and sentiment.

For discussion of being banned from things - I think it's a rather futile discussion because I've basically given up from editing any contentious articles on wikipedia because I feel like it's unfortunately being shaped by the views of editors and not being a well sourced neutral encylopedia. Unlike GraziePrego implies, I don't think it's a conspiracy, just that editors who are heavily on one side of the argument are totally dominanting GENSEX articles. My total contribution to Wikipedia since my change request was rejected is 5 edits to the Graham Linehan talk page, contributing to existing discussions and not starting new ones, so I don't think a ban is needed. Icecold (talk) 16:09, 17 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
just to add in response @GraziePrego

>I believe they will start participating in discussions on other GENSEX related pages making the same comments about how the consensus there is all artificially created by biased editors.

I don't think what one editor believes I *might* do is a good enough reason to ban someone. As I've stated, I believe it's a waste of my time and my time could be used more constructively elsewhere than fighting losing battles. Icecold (talk) 18:03, 17 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@EvergreenFir:You've admitted I've had 261 edits over 19 years and have contributed to a varied range of articles and then you state I'm not here to build an encyclopedia.. I only tend to get involved if I see something that is wrong, I have a full time job and family and haven't got the time or desire to edit Wikipedia all the time... Icecold (talk) 23:34, 17 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Springee:Hey, thanks for the constructive comment

I do have a question about passing aspersions though, in my case the editor in question literally admitted to using their own moral compass to guide their decisions, and I don't think pointing to that comment is passing aspersions as that's what they literally said. As for other editors, I concede that some of my comments may have been a tad aggressive, but I did feel attacked.

I have tried to reach out on user pages, and I feel like I was genuinely trying to improve the article, having picked the most neutral wording I could. I even (as others like to point out) ran it through an LLM in order to make sure it was as palatable to others as I could make it. I spent quite a bit of time researching sources, and went in with good intentions. I have largely stayed away, just making 4 or 5 small comments on the talk page, but not reopening the debate or anything, my comments were mainly to people who would come in with similar suggestions to mine, because I feel like that side of the debate is under represented on Wikipedia.

As for your suggestions, I probably wouldn't propose a ban based on number of edits, only because it's taken me 19 years to reach over 200, so by that time frame it'll take me almost a hundred years to make those edits! Also, to be honest, this whole episode hasn't been a very welcoming or a positive experience, so I'm not in a rush to contribute more, but I'm happy to agree to a time exclusion ban.

Also, sorry just a final question, I don't know how these things work, when you say don't reply in the admin section, just reply in yours, but I'm word limited and I've already gone over the word limit, so I don't understand how I can reply to people there? It will also be out of context won't it? Sorry I'm just not understanding :) I'm happy to move my comments if need be? Icecold (talk) 00:36, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@GraziePrego you were making personal attacks against me too. You've likened me to a spent firework coming back to earth https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GraziePrego&diff=prev&oldid=1291620900, said I'm making an exhibition of myself https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:GraziePrego&diff=prev&oldid=1291619966, and you were jumping in on every discussion I had on people's user pages.. Was a bit odd. Icecold (talk) 01:44, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ I really take issue with your statement - you're attempting to link me to a banned user to imply that I am on wikipedia for the same reasons as that banned user is. I have been on wikipedia for 19 years, and over those 19 years I have made edits on various articles - yes I've not made thousands of edits, but small edits here and there. I reached out to that user (before they were banned) to possibly collaborate because they had been supportive of my request to change, and I thought together we might have been able to create a better request. I then expressed suprise that that user was banned within half an hour of being informed that there was an investigation into them with no right to reply. I stand by those comments - I think that anyone, on either side of any debate has a right to reply, I would defend anyone's right to reply even if I vehemently disagree with them. Icecold (talk) 02:04, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@GraziePrego I apologise if I crossed the line - but I stand by my comment that you were stalking me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:HandThatFeeds&diff=prev&oldid=1290348015

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:HandThatFeeds&diff=prev&oldid=1290535049

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gazumpedheit&diff=prev&oldid=1290795322

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gazumpedheit&diff=prev&oldid=1290795569

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TarnishedPath&diff=prev&oldid=1291554802

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:TarnishedPath&diff=prev&oldid=1291618219

Are all examples of you replying to me on other users talk pages when you weren't tagged or mentioned. So unless you regularly visit all those editors talk pages, you were clearly following my edits on wikipedia.

As for your other points, we'll have to agree to disagree because I'm way over my word count I think. Icecold (talk) 02:15, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ I'm not sure what bigoted statement you're referring to, but just because I reach out to a user that doesn't mean I endorse all their viewpoints? I also didn't realise they hadn't been around for long. I was reaching out because I thought wikipedia encouraged people to reach out to gain consensus? I also fundamentally agree with everyones right to reply. I don't agree with aryan supremecy, but someone accused of advocating it in my opinion has a right to defend themselves. IMO Wikipedia is in the wrong here.

@User:TarnishedPath I don't think that discussion shows that at all - I just wanted to make the page more accurate. I have been a member of wikipedia for 19 years, and since this Graham Linehan debate I haven't gone on to edit any other pages and I've only made 5 contributions to the talk page since. So to state I'm going to go on a culture war quest is clearly an incorrect assumption. And Maybe GraziePrego is on your page a lot, but yours wasn't the only page they commented directly to me on. It felt very much like I was being stalked.

@Icecold: Do not make any further comments or edits in this thread (including in other users' sections or the admin section) without explicit permission from an administrator, or they will be reverted and you may be blocked. ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 03:00, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by GraziePrego

GraziePrego's statement contains 601 words and exceeds the 500-word limit.

I think everything has been well covered, thank you Snokalok for starting this thread- I was strongly considering starting one myself about Icecold's behaviour. I would only add

this, where Icecold casts aspersions and personally attacks User:HandThatFeeds, describing them with " it's clear that handthatfee... is a biased editor who has made up their mind to shut down all debate. I've tried to hash it out with them on their talk page, but it's clear that no amount of reliable sources I could provide will change their mind as they're pushing their own viewpoint on Wikipedia, which I think is pretty shameful". This is on top of repeatedly casting aspersions about HandThatFeeds in the previous discussion, the diff for that is already linked I think.

My personal feeling is that Icecold isn't going to move on from their previous discussion on Talk:Graham Linehan not going their way, and they are now going to reply in every single discussion that begins on that talk page to complain about a conspiracy of activists silencing their viewpoint. In my opinion, this is disruptive.

(Editing to add a little to my comment) I would be in favour of a GENSEX topic ban for Icecold, as their desire to work against "activist editors" is not just limited to Linehan's page, they believe it's a conspiracy that extends to other GENSEX related articles. I believe they will start participating in discussions on other GENSEX related pages making the same comments about how the consensus there is all artificially created by biased editors. GraziePrego (talk) 01:23, 17 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Adding to my comments based on what Icecold has said so far. I think the fact that they can look at this diff where they called my editing "moronic in the extreme", and said "You argue in bad faith", and Icecold looks at that diff and denies that they were making personal attacks and just commenting on editing? Seriously? I'm not seeing much understanding from Icecold that they was being highly personal with their comments. GraziePrego (talk) 01:31, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Icecold, which is a personal attack out of "your editing is moronic in the extreme" and pointing out that you were making an exhibition of yourself by:

bludgeoning one discussion,
going to remonstrate with those who disagreed with you on their talk page,
restarting the discussion immediately when it didn't go your way,
then going and remonstrating with the closer when that also didn't go your way,
and then making a second post on their talk page attacking them when they closed your first attack on them,
and then coming to my talk page to accuse me of stalking you?

To me, that is making an exhibition of yourself- and that entirely describes your *editing*, and is not an attack on you personally. I never accused you of behaving in bad faith- you made no secret of accusing everyone who disagreed with you of acting in bad faith, including me. GraziePrego (talk) 02:00, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

I am unarchiving this thread as it rolled into the archives without any decision being taken- it seemed like there was mood for action to be taken. GraziePrego (talk) 10:56, 24 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Pinging @Snokalok as this is originally your thread :) GraziePrego (talk) 10:57, 24 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@EvergreenFir@Guerillero@Seraphimblade@Valereee@TarnishedPath@Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist@Springee pinging previously involved in the discussion GraziePrego (talk) 11:26, 24 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

The allegation by @Icecold of forumshopping and gaming is clearly spurious. This thread was archived with *no outcome* by an automatic bot, not closed with a decision taken. The allegations only have weight if this discussion had concluded with no action being taken, and I had freaked out and just created a new thread. That's very different to what has actually happened. GraziePrego (talk) 01:38, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Springee

Icecold, while your account isn't new, I would suggest based on your limited recent edits you should be granted a bit of wp:ROPE that is frequently given to new users. The path you're on is clearly not working and at best it will result in a tban and possibly an outright block. I think at least an outright block could be avoided if you understand and agree to the following.

Do not comment on users (unless the statement is clearly positive). Many online forums draw the line at actually insulting people (exp: Editor Patel is stupid). Wikipedia's CIVIL policy is stricter than that. Suggesting someone's motives are other than trying to improve the content of the encyclopedia is casting aspersions. This means you should not suggest someone is "clearly a conservative/liberal/right/left/up/down/etc". It is of course acceptable to argue an edit might make a reader think the article is biased or that a source is biased and that negatively impacts it's WEIGHT etc. But just don't comment on the other editors as a person. If in doubt I'm sure the admins below, if contacted on their talk page, would help you understand where the limits are if you aren't sure about a comment.
Stick to the facts, not emotions. Yeah, sometimes it's naturel to think, "what the Belgium[100] is that person thinking". However, sometimes it's just our own failure to understand their perspective that is the issue. Trying to reach out civilly on user talk pages may not always work but I've been pleased how often it does.
Agree to stay away from the Graham Linehan page for a while. I would suggest 6 months or/and until you have say at least 1000 edits. The idea is to work on other parts of Wikipedia to show that you understand how to work with others. If you declare a self imposed tban, and stick with it, that will show that you are trying to avoid issues.

I think it you agree to the above and stick to it you should be able to avoid a formal tban and certainly an outright block. People around here can be quite forgiving if they see that an editor has understood and fixed a problem. Also, one more thing, don't reply in the admin space, just reply in your own section. Springee (talk) 00:17, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Icecold, unless the admins say you need to reply to the other editors, you don't. Also, it seems that the admins are open to the idea of you stepping away from the Linehan page. It's not clear they would accept a voluntary tban but if you feel you can stick to it I would offer it. Do make sure you understand what broadly construed means - don't edit content about Linehan on other pages. Even if you get an article/tban, it seems like they are otherwise giving you the benefit of the doubt and just a warning to not do the same things in the future. Again, no reason to reply to the other accusations unless admins ask. Springee (talk) 19:35, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by YFNS (Icecold)

Just want to note they were collaborating with and defending a user blocked for NOTHERE behavior and transphobic rants.WP:AE/Archive353/Gazumpedheit

In May 2025, IceCold went to User talk:Gazumpedheit to say (regarding Graham Linehan) , but it's clear that handthatfee... is a biased editor who has made up their mind to shut down all debate. I've tried to hash it out with them on their talk page, but it's clear that no amount of reliable sources I could provide will change their mind as they're pushing their own viewpoint on Wikipedia, which I think is pretty shameful. ... So I was reaching out to see if there's some way we can appeal in a way that doesn't allow them to shut down the discussion unilaterally, either through a RFC or DRN? While I would rather not lose the argument, if I feel like I've lost the argument fairly, by consensus, then I can take it, when it's artificially shut down by activist editors then I cannot take that lying down..

When the response is Hi @Icecold, welcome to Wikipedia of 2025. I'm afraid I can't have much to offer rather than to ping Void if removed for their advice, as a person who has far greater knowledge of the mechanics of Wiki than I. I would wager that Hand That Feeds owes you an apology to be honest, for their unqualified dismissal of your valid point

IC responded But yeah, it's very scary. In both the UK (due to the supreme court judgement) and the US (with Trumps exec order) the overton window is shifting to stopping the shutting down of gender critical viewpoints by calling them transphobic, but yet if you come onto wikipedia (or reddit), you're told that any criticism or worries raised is transphobic and bigoted. I've had gender critical accused of being the same as racism which is pure hyperbole. Wikipedia isn't representing society, and is clearly, on several contenious issues, just representing the opinions of a Wikipedia editors, like like how Reddit moderators enforce their opinions on their subreddits.

Gazumhedit once again pinged in VIR
IC responded I've just seen they've banned you without seemingly a chance for you to respond and then gloating about it on your talk page. Classy.

Followed by arguing Gazumphedit's NOTHERE block was unfair since they couldn't defend themselves [101]

Pretty plainly WP:NOTHERE and seeking to WP:RGW IMHO. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 01:38, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Icecold, you reached out to request help from a user who, it had been noted in the thread they replied to you in, made bigoted comments[102]

An editor who'd made less than 20 edits (not a good idea to ask advice based on that alone) and who you reached out to as the only person who agreed with you. You insulted other editors on their talk page.

And WP supports no right to reply. If somebody came on insisting that the truth of Aryan supremacy would win over the next few years, they'd be blocked. Not given a chance to explain why they said it (because the answer is bigotry). Bigotry is a no-go here. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 02:21, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

IC accusing GP of stalking over Gazumpedheit's page is particularly nonsensical. GP edited the page before IC did[103] so was presumably watching it, and gave IC a very neutral clear answer to their question about how blocks work.[104][105] Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 02:56, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by TarnishedPath

The discussion which YFNS referred to at User_talk:Gazumpedheit#Linehan page, indicates that IC is WP:NOTHERE. It appears that they are here to engage in culture war WP:BATTLE. I don't see that a ban from Graham Linehan or from GENSEX more broadly is going to cease the disruption as there is plenty more in Wikipedia that editors can engage in culture war battle over. TarnishedPath^talk 02:17, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Icecold, I can tell you for a fact that it is not uncommon for GP to visit my talk page. We have overlapping interests and I would make a bet that they have my talk on their watchlist as I do with them. TarnishedPath^talk 02:24, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@GraziePrego and @Icecold, please move your comments to your own sections. TarnishedPath^talk 11:27, 24 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by GoodDay

If Graham Linehan is the 'only' article, that Icecold has been discussing, in relation to this report? Than as a preventative measure, I'd recommend a 1-month pageblock. This will give an editor enough time to cool off & reflect. GoodDay (talk) 17:05, 24 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by Rankersbo

I am new to arbitration so not aware of what actions can be taken. The main issue with Icecold is that they use a passive-aggressive smokescreen of objectivity to try and reframe the debate around their own biases, claiming that neutrality lies around their own position, when it lies far from it. Their constant claims that other editors are "activist" constitute aspersions of bad faith, and use of performative victimhood such as accusations of stalking and cries of "leave me alone" in response to reasonable interactions are a continuation of this behaviour. The comments warning another user of a ban are inferring that the system is at fault rather than the behaviour.

The root does appear to be the Linehan page, but has spilled out onto user talk pages. Comments made in this arbitration and elsewhere on personal talk pages do not show someone who has accepted fault with their attitudes and behaviour with contrition, or who intends to take on board criticism in order to learn and grow.

I note a page block has been made, but am unclear as to whether this is sufficient, and given the nature of the behaviour, if anything beyond that can be done. Rankersbo (talk) 08:28, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Statement by (username)

Result concerning Icecold

This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above.

So, as appearing in order:
Diff 1 ([106]), comment on content, not editors. You're certainly free to disagree with other editors, but trying to assign bad motives to them is unacceptable. In many cases, reasonable people can disagree.

Diff 2 ([107]), same as diff 1.

Diff 3 ([108]), same as diff 1, and the "laughing" face at the end even more so. While again you are free to disagree with other editors, ridiculing them is totally out of line.

Diff 4 ([109]), same as diff 1.

Diff 5 ([110]), expressing frustration in one's own userspace, and users are allowed pretty wide latitude in their own userspace. Not as concerned about this one.

Diff 6 ([111]), criticizing someone else for contributing a lot is completely inappropriate.

Diff 7 ([112]), casting aspersions. If Icecold genuinely felt like someone was inappropriately stalking them, they should have brought that up in the appropriate venue, with actual evidence, to request action on that. However, it is not uncommon for editors interested in the same topic area to run into one another at more than one article. While one can tell other editors not to post on their user talk page, one cannot demand that another editor [l]eave me alone in general; that would effectively amount to a unilateral interaction ban.

Diff 8 ([113]), the nastiness and sarcasm is unacceptable and unnecessary.

Diff 9 ([114]), talk page discussions are open to participation by any interested editor; again, Icecold may not unilaterally decide that another editor should not participate. And, again, editors interested in the same area may have one another's talk page on their watchlist; that is neither uncommon nor inappropriate.

Diff 10 ([115]), while the use of LLMs is not strictly forbidden, disruptive behavior is, and in practice, LLM usage often leads to disruption. Icecold has committed to no longer doing this, so as long as they uphold that, this is again not as much of a current concern.
All that said, I think Icecold needs, at minimum, to be removed from the subject of Graham Linehan, as they clearly don't have the appropriate temperament to edit on that topic. I'll give Icecold an additional 300 words to explain why that shouldn't just be a GENSEX topic ban overall; as they're relatively new, I'd prefer a narrower restriction if possible, but not if that just means the disruption will get moved elsewhere. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 00:06, 17 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

They are not relatively new. The account is 19 years old. The problem is that of their 261 edits, 100 are from 2025 and 70% of those are on Talk:Graham Linehan. This user is being disruptive and at minimum a partial block from Graham Linehan is needed. I would argue, however, that this is beyond AE and just a case of NOTHERE. I see no evidence that the user is here to improve the encyclopedia. I only see WP:BATTLEGROUND. EvergreenFir (talk) 21:25, 17 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
I'm applying "relatively new" in terms of experience at editing, not account age. There's a lot of fighting going on, certainly, but there seems to be at least some concern for article quality and reliability in with that, so I'm reluctant to give up any hope. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 03:38, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Icecold, you are far over the word limit. Further responses from you will be removed unless you request and receive an extension (which at this point is unlikely), and there is no need for you to reply to everyone who comments here. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 03:38, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
I'd support a p-block from Linehan, certainly. If the problem recurs in other GENSEX topics, a tban. Icecold, you say I'm not allowed to respond to every allegation about me, due to the word limit. That is incorrect. You have plenty of space if you write short. Spit it out on the page, then edit it down to what's necessary. I could edit out a third of your statement easily. Learning to write short is extremely valuable here. Valereee (talk) 19:15, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
(I'd say learning to write concisely is a valuable skill in general, and on Wikipedia in general, not just for AE. Whether or not I'm always good at it is a separate question.) I was thinking as a topic ban from Graham Linehan enforced by p-block but also applying across the project, since a fair bit of the disruptive behavior was on user talk pages and the like related to that subject. I think Icecold needs to step away from that subject entirely until they've gained more editing experience elsewhere. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 20:09, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Icecold, a topic ban from Lineham means you cannot discuss him -- or anything closely related to him, such as his works -- anywhere on Wikipedia, including in talk pages. The only place you can even mention him is within an appeal of the topic ban. The reasoning behind a topic ban for a very inexperienced user is to prevent you from being disruptive while still giving you the opportunity to learn how to contribute productively by allowing you to edit in other topics.

I (and most other experienced editors) would advise editing in noncontentious topics while you learn. Arguing about the appropriate use of "gender critical" vs. "anti-transgender" in a BLP is a minefield even for highly experienced editors. And accusing someone of stalking you because they appeared at the talk pages of other editors you both have interacted with is evidence of your lack of experience. That is completely normal. I do it literally every day, and it happens to me regularly. Valereee (talk) 10:03, 19 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
I think a full topic ban from GENSEX would be preferable --Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 07:34, 22 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Icecold claims "I have voluntarily stayed away from editing controversial pages". Yet only minutes before this thread was unarchived (which is procedurally permissible, to be clear), Icecold posted in support of another user who made the same types of POV-pushing comments regarding Linehan. Above I see a clear consensus for some kind of sanction, with admins on the fence between a narrow or broad TBAN. Given that we now have evidence Icecold saw the need to return to this disruptive editing a month after getting off on a technicality, I'm satisfied that they are not currently able to be a constructive presence in this topic area, and think a GENSEX TBAN is the minimum viable solution. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 14:33, 24 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I've pblocked from Linehan and its talk as an individual admin action. No objection to anyone else deciding the make an AE tban from GENSEX, I just didn't see that yet, but felt the pblock was clearly indicated. Valereee (talk) 16:56, 24 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@GraziePrego: You are also over your word limit. Do not add anything further (or remove anything to get more words for replies) without permission from an administrator. (And in the future, please ask an administrator to reopen an archived arbitration enforcement thread, even if it was never closed.) ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 03:09, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Lt.gen.zephyr

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Request concerning Lt.gen.zephyr

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: ZDRX (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 16:11, 25 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it

23 August - Created problematic Battle of Rajasthan (1965) by copy pasting an article created on Simple Wiki by an LTA (banned on English Wiki) just 2 days earlier. [116][117]
24 August - Wrongly claims that "Mentioned pages doesn't cite the casualties number", when the source supports it.[118]
24 August - Unnecessarily asking another editor to "Show where it is mentioned" despite getting exact URL to the page number.
24 August - Restores his misrepresentation of sources and accuses me of not reading the source.
24 August - Doubles down with his misrepresentation of sources by citing page numbers that don't support his claims.
24 August - Continues to double down with his claims
25 August - Still misrepresenting the source. He is still wrongly claiming that "victory claim is mentioned" on this page, when it is not.

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If contentious topics restrictions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:CTOP#Awareness of contentious topics): [119]

Additional comments by editor filing complaint: Lt.gen.zephyr is not addressing the concerns about his edits here and he is not admitting any of his faults. He cites "victories in the deserts of Sindh" (see Thar Desert of Sindh) to be descriptive of "Battle of Rajasthan" when Sindh and Rajasthan are both separate from each other. He is still doubling down with his misrepresentation of sources. THEZDRX _{(User) |}_(Contact) 02:49, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

First of all, it is clearly stated in the opening paragraph of the article that The Battle of Rajasthan refers to several clashes and skirmishes fought between Pakistan and India in India's Rajasthan state and Pakistan's Sindh state during the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965.

If one examines the reference book, under the title Sulemanki and Munabao (A town in Rajasthan) (page number 124-125 in slider), it notes that Pakistan's 51 brigade repulsed the Indian attack on Sindh and subsequently captured Indian town Munabao alongwith the railway station. Just a few lines later it says Their victories in the Sindh were welcomed. 𝗭𝗲𝗽𝗵𝘆𝗿 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 07:15, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

[120]

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Statement by Lt.gen.zephyr

About Indo-Pakistan war of 1965

2- Source number 9 (Warfare and Armed Conflicts: A Statistical Encyclopedia of Casualty and Other Figures, 1492–2015, 4th ed) says Indian killed in action was 3,712 and Pakistani killed in action was 1,500. That's why I had used an range to determine the losses. Later when I was given additional reference, I didn't revert it and let it stay there. Sadly I couldn't access the other source, source number 11 (The Roots and Consequences of 20th-Century Warfare: Conflicts That Shaped the Modern World).
3- Unfortunately the user who had shared me a link didn't take me to the page number. I could only see the book's name, topic and the information about the writer. Later I was provided additional sources by another user, I proposed to add both of the casualties figure. The meesage where I was provided with additional sources to cross verify - [121].

I didn't make a change later as it was proven to me that the numbers for India and Pakistani losses were 3,00 and 3,800 respectively. The sole reason for me to change was the source in the infobox which was accessible said 3,712 and 1,500 whereas the inaccessible source said the other thing. The 9th source is accessible and is mentioned here -> [122]. Another major thing is source 10, (Encyclopedia of Wars) which is used as neutral claim also says APPROXIMATE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF MEN UNDER ARMS: India, 900,000; Pakistan, 233,000 CASUALTIES: India, 3,712 killed, 7,638 wounded; Pakistan, 1,500 killed, 4,300 wounded TREATIES: Conference at Tashkent, 1966. Since there are two different numbers, I used a range to clearify it. Another speech I'd like to share regarding source 11 (The Roots and Consequences of 20th-Century Warfare: Conflicts That Shaped the Modern World) is the page cited 267 talks about Byzantine–Ottoman Turk War (1453–1461),(1422) and (1359–1399), not about the 1965 war. So the claim of the 3,000 and 3,800 goes null and void.

Edit 1 : Attaching Encyclopedia of Wars's link here for users to verify my statement - [123]
Edit 2 : Replaced Encyclopedia of Wars's link as that version was partially available. The page number is 602.

Battle of Rajasthan (1965),

I already mentioned the territorial change's source in the talk page when the user asked. [124]. Anyone may crosscheck by seeing page 256 - (Origins of Political Extremism: Mass Violence in the Twentieth Century and Beyond)

About Pakistan victory, it is mentioned in (A History of the Pakistan Army: Wars and Insurrections, 5th Edition) in page 108 (as per slide 125) saying Their victories in the deserts of Sindh were welcomed, which I told earlier in the talk. [125]

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Result concerning Lt.gen.zephyr

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Alaexis

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Request concerning Alaexis

User who is submitting this request for enforcement: IOHANNVSVERVS (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 18:29, 25 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

User against whom enforcement is requested: Alaexis (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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Sanction or remedy to be enforced: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel articles#ARBPIA General Sanctions

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11 Aug 2025 POV pushing and BLP violation at the article Anas al-Sharif, a Palestinian journalist recently killed by the Israeli military. Alaexis changed a sentence from "Since October 2023, Al-Sharif became one of the most visible faces reporting on the war in Gaza, refusing to evacuate the north despite repeated Israeli orders and direct threats to his life." to "Al-Sharif celebrated the October 7 attacks and became one of the most visible faces reporting on the war in Gaza, [...etc]". The only source they added for this claim is an unverified primary source, supposedly an "archived link to a post he made on Telegram".[126]

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No previous sanctions that I'm aware of.

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Long time editor in the topic area.

Additional comments by editor filing complaint

This is a long time editor in the topic area who is fully aware of our policies regarding NPOV and BLP. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 18:29, 25 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@SilverLocust, I wasn't aware of WP:BLPSPS. The editor who reverted Alaexis' edit cited WP:BLPPRIMARY. Having now read BLPSPS I'm not sure I understand how these two policies don't contradict each other.

Also I didn't rush here seeking sanctions, I first emailed an admin about my concerns and asked how to proceed and was told "I would agree it violates NPOV (specifically DUE) and BLP, as well as OR since it goes beyond straightforward paraphrase. I would suggest bringing the matter to AE." IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 21:25, 25 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Swatjester, don't you think there's a big difference between Alaexis' edit stating as a fact that "Al-Sharif celebrated the October 7 attacks", compared to how The Times reported it using phrases such as "an Israeli journalist has claimed" and "allegedly"?

Another article in The Times reports it as "Eitan Fischberger, an Israeli journalist and former IDF soldier, also published an archived Telegram post which purported to show Sharif celebrating the Hamas-led attacks on Israel of October 7, 2023, in which 1,200 Israelis died."[127] and +972 Magazine reports it as "The message, which appears completely inconsistent with Al-Sharif’s posting history on or after the events of October 7, was deleted soon after it was published. Many of Al-Sharif’s news updates on that day were copied and re-posted from other groups, chat rooms, or news sites. This means that the statement could have been an accidental post that he deleted as soon as he was made aware of it."[128] IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 23:12, 25 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Statement by Alaexis

Statement by LokiTheLiar

As a totally uninvolved editor who stumbled across this filing, I'd like to point out that in addition to the problems Tamzin pointed out with step 6, there are also problems with steps 2 and 5:

The issue with step 2 is that, just like how Alaexis did not cite an interpretation of that Telegraph post, he also didn't cite a source saying that that is in fact the subject's Telegraph account. Now, reliable sources agree it is, but for a similar reason to why interpreting the post himself is bad, not giving a source that proves this account is the subject's account is a BLP violation, and a separate one to the OR interpretation of the post. It's not like it's impossible to impersonate someone on social media: if you want to cite someone's social media for a controversial statement you do in fact have to have some kind of evidence that it's actually them saying that.

The issue with step 5 is IMO much more clear: WP:NONENG says directly that Editors should not rely upon machine translations of non-English sources in contentious articles or biographies of living people, and this is clearly both, so relying on Google Translate is definitely inappropriate. Now, there's actually no reason necessarily to believe that Alaexis did this: Alaexis used the Arabic directly as the source (which is separately problematic for a BLP since it's hard to verify but that's neither here nor there). But I think that AE very clearly should not use machine translation to support any interpretation of that Telegraph post, positive or negative. We don't know if al-Sharif called anyone "heroes". We know Google Translate says he did, but Google Translate is itself not a reliable source and very easily could have mistranslated a word or missed nuances of language like sarcasm. Loki (talk) 07:09, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Result concerning Alaexis

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@IOHANNVSVERVS: Which of the following steps, if any, do you disagree with/object to (enough to merit sanctions)?
1. WP:BLPSPS allows use of social network posts by the subject as sources of material about himself.
2. Seemingly nobody has contested that https://t.me/anas1020304050 is his Telegram account.
3. The Internet Archive's Wayback Machine is the web archive most frequently used on Wikipedia (and any evidence that one of its archives has ever been faked would be of great interest).
4. The archived text on "Oct 7" is "9 ساعات ولا زال الأبطال يجوسون خلال الديار يقتلون ويأسرون.. الله الله ما أعظمكم 💚💚💚."
5. Google Translate's translation of that is "9 hours and the heroes are still roaming the country, killing and capturing... Oh God, how great you are."
6. Alaexis wrote, citing that post, that "Al-Sharif celebrated the October 7 attacks".
~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 20:15, 25 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I don't think the difference between celebrated the October 7 attacks versus referred to October 7 attack participants as "heroes" "killing and capturing" is so significant as to require a sanction. (What IOHANNVSVERVS questioned on Alaexis's talk page was just the authenticity of the post, not anything about there being another way to interpret it.)

It's certainly fair to respond that it should just quote precisely what he said (to avoid interpretation) or that available secondary sources should be included alongside the post (and separately from the refs not related to the post). All I'd support is an informal reminder to do those things. ~ Jenson (SilverLocust 💬) 05:02, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
NPOV requires "representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic." The edits in question, about Sharif's telegram account and his celebration of October 7 appear to have been previously in the article here where they were cited to The Times, a reliable source. "Anas Al-Sharif celebrated the protagonists of the October 7 terrorist attacks as “heroes” while the pogrom was under way, an Israeli journalist has claimed." The same The Times source also reiterates many of the same claims found in the Times of Israel source which details the IDF's claims and evidence of Sharif's status as an actively-paid Hamas rocket-launching team commander -- claims which have been scrubbed from the article in the past two weeks. So, I'm struggling to see how this is UNDUE, insignificant, or not published by a reliable source. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 22:36, 25 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@IOHANNVSVERVS: Quibbling over the exact wordsmithing is one thing, but that didn't happen here, did it? From what I can tell the edits were reverted wholesale, at least twice. If the content would have been acceptable with some better variation of including the word "alleged" and noting that the Times is reiterating another journalist, that raises the natural follow-up question of "why that didn't happen and why this was escalated to AE instead." ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 00:27, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yes, this is a conduct noticeboard; but this is not a conduct dispute. This is a content dispute in which very little attempt has been made to seriously justify any claims of misconduct nor do there appear to have been significant attempts to resolve this directly with the user in question. We don't get to have it both ways -- either this is not subject matter for this forum in the first place (in which case it should be summarily closed), or it is and the substance of the edits in question are relevant to the dispute. The WP:PRIMARY argument holds zero weight with me when there had been pre-existing attempts to include the same information sourced to perennially reliable secondary sources, and it was summarily removed. Come on, we're supposed to be better than that kind of procedural nitpicking, something that resembles the Committee's recent finding that "Highly tendentious disputes over objectively minor issues hurt the Wikipedia project. They hurt the project by reducing editor co-operation, and can drive editors away from working in the areas of the encyclopedia in which they occur. The fact that something may contradict Wikipedia policies or guidelines is not enough to justify disruption that exceeds the harm caused by the underlying issue. Editors are expected to maintain proper perspective about the issues under discussion, and act to further the greater good of the encyclopedia." Do you think that sanctioning Alaexis for this on the basis of WP:PRIMARY demonstrates the degree of perspective that satisfies the greater good of the encyclopedia when we *know* that non-primary sources use the exact wording in question and the only underlying issue is around categorizing it as an allegation? I certainly don't. ⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 07:21, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
A serious BLP violation doesn't stop being a serious BLP violation just because there's a way to make a similar edit that wouldn't be a BLP violation. If there weren't the case, we'd never be able to sanction anyone who overstates the extent of a felon's crimes or pushes some gossipy stuff that happens to be true. That's not procedural nitpicking or objectively minor. That is a major aspect of BLP enforcement. There's two questions for us to answer here: 1) Did Alaexis introduce policy-violating content to an article? 2) Is a sanction necessary to prevent them from doing that again? On (1), the answer is straightforwardly yes. On (2), I reserve judgment pending response from Alaexis. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 08:14, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Except the subject is dead, and was confirmed dead by reliable sources at the time the edit was made, and this is a further reason why WP:BPD is bad policy, because it states a general rule that Generally, this policy does not apply to material concerning people who are confirmed dead by reliable sources. but then goes on to state that The only exception would be for people who have recently died, in which case the policy can extend for an indeterminate period beyond the date of death—six months, one year, two years at the outside. So how long does it extend here and where/when was that decided vis-a-vis this article? An indefinite, indeterminate period providing zero guidance as to how that period should be calculated as an exception to a general rule that it would not apply, is too vague to reasonably be grounds to sanction an editor IMO.⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 08:57, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
You're welcome to start another RfC on the wording of BDP; I closed the most recent one, which restored the current wording after a previous undiscussed weakening of the rule. But just as it isn't AE's place to decide whether Alaexis is on the right side of the content dispute, it isn't AE's place to rewrite policy. There is no ambiguity as to whether BDP, as currently written, extends BLP to Anas Al-Sharif, who had been dead for all of a day at the time the edit was made. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 10:53, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
I was the one who suggested that Iohannvs file here. In my view, the answer to SilverLocust's question is point 6: It's an editorialization—a plausible editorialization, perhaps, but still an editorialization—and thus violates WP:PRIMARY (Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation. While a primary source is generally the best source for its own contents, even over a summary of the primary source elsewhere, do not put undue weight on its contents.) and WP:BLPSOURCES. Pace Swatjester, it makes no difference to me whether other sources exist that would support including that sentence, because Alaexis didn't cite those sources. This is a conduct noticeboard, not a content noticeboard, and if Alaexis does not understanding the issue with saying a recently deceased person celebrated the October 7 attacks sourced only to their own analysis of a social media post he made, that is a matter that needs to be addressed. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (they|xe|🤷) 03:53, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
We require editors writing about BLPs to rely on secondary sources to characterize them, not on their own analyses of the subject's own words. If secondary sources attribute a position to this person, add that by all means, but OR from a telegram channel? This is basic stuff: I would call this a more clear-cut NPOV violation than is usually brought to this board. Vanamonde93 (talk) 05:00, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Request for sanctions to be lifted

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I hereby ask the Arbitration committee to please lift the sanctions put on me in March of 2025, which restrict me from editing on topics associated with Azerbaijan and Armenia. Since the sanctions, I have made approximately 385 edits to Wikipedia in various topics, contributed to various topic areas, made 4 articles (Sawt Safir al-Bulbul, Jabal e-Malaika, Altes Rathaus, Deggendorf, Ya Ali (phrase)), greatly contributed to 3 articles (2025 Iranian strikes on Al Udeid Air Base, Abu Fanous, Ya Ali), gotten into 0 problems or conflicts (atleast I cannot remember getting into any, if I have done so please correct me), become more mature over the last 5 months and gained more knowledge in the Azerbaijan-Armenia conflict and other topic areas. I genuinely regret past mistakes and promise to try not to repeat those mistakes, e.g. when I mistakenly edited on GS/AA article and then didn't contest the sanctions, knowing I did a mistake and will have to pay for it. I ask you to please lift the sanctions on topics associated with Azerbaijan and Armenia, including the conflict, because I have been on sanctions in connection to these 2 countries for almost a year now and have learnt from my mistakes, promising to become a better editor now and in the future. I would be very happy if the committee accepts this request, have a nice day. Viceskeeni2 (talk) 15:10, 26 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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