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on this page and someone will drop by to help. Again, welcome! Liz Read! Talk! 23:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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April 2024
editHello CFORMAN12. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.
Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.
Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:CFORMAN12. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=CFORMAN12|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}
. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 331dot (talk) 19:25, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am not being directly nor indirectly compensated for my edits. Everything I am doing is unpaid and of my own volition. CFORMAN12 (talk) 19:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- You wrote an edit summary thay said "I have created the basic outline for a Wikipedia page I am working on for one of the filmmakers and creative directors at Deadbeat Films LTD." Please clarify your relationship with the filmmaker and/or Deadbeat Films. 331dot (talk) 20:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am a fan of Brook Driver's works and believe that he, along with the company he works with, should have Wikipedia pages (Especially considering some of their works already have Wikipedia pages). I have spoken with Brook Driver and members of Deadbeat Films previously, but I am not on their payroll and will not receive any financial compensation by making these pages. You can see that the Deadbeat Films page was written in an unbiased and strictly professional manner. You can also see that I have made edits on other Wikipedia pages as well. I am wanting to learn about this site and continue contributing to it in an appropriate and professional way. I want to reiterate that there is no financial benefit to making these articles. These are being made, as I have previously said, of my own volition. CFORMAN12 (talk) 20:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I have replaced the paid tag with a conflict of interest tag. Ideally, you should be using the draft submission process to create articles related to a conflict of interest. Are you in communication with Driver about your work here?
- Note that a company's products meriting articles does not necessarily mean that the company itself merits one. It must itself receive significant coverage in independent reliable sources that show how it meets the definition of a notable organization. 331dot (talk) 20:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- All of the work I did was done on my own. Based on the two links you shared, I do believe that it meets the definition of a notable organization. CFORMAN12 (talk) 20:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- If it does, that's not apparent from the article as it is now. The awards went to the films, not to the company, and the main text of the article just describes the structure of the company. 331dot (talk) 21:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- CFORMAN12, it now appears that you were working as an intern for this company and you misrepresented yourself in this discussion. You should have been more forthcoming about your relationship with this company. You might have been unpaid but you were not just a fan but were doing work for this company. You definitely should have submitted your drafts to the AFC process since you had a clear conflict-of-interest. Liz Read! Talk! 00:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- If it does, that's not apparent from the article as it is now. The awards went to the films, not to the company, and the main text of the article just describes the structure of the company. 331dot (talk) 21:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- All of the work I did was done on my own. Based on the two links you shared, I do believe that it meets the definition of a notable organization. CFORMAN12 (talk) 20:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- I am a fan of Brook Driver's works and believe that he, along with the company he works with, should have Wikipedia pages (Especially considering some of their works already have Wikipedia pages). I have spoken with Brook Driver and members of Deadbeat Films previously, but I am not on their payroll and will not receive any financial compensation by making these pages. You can see that the Deadbeat Films page was written in an unbiased and strictly professional manner. You can also see that I have made edits on other Wikipedia pages as well. I am wanting to learn about this site and continue contributing to it in an appropriate and professional way. I want to reiterate that there is no financial benefit to making these articles. These are being made, as I have previously said, of my own volition. CFORMAN12 (talk) 20:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- You wrote an edit summary thay said "I have created the basic outline for a Wikipedia page I am working on for one of the filmmakers and creative directors at Deadbeat Films LTD." Please clarify your relationship with the filmmaker and/or Deadbeat Films. 331dot (talk) 20:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Nomination of Deadbeat Films for deletion
editThe article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deadbeat Films until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.Nomination of Brook Driver for deletion
editThe article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brook Driver until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.