March thanks

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story · music · places

Thank you for improving article quality in March! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Nice to see you around. I'm probably gonna take a break for a while (say a month) to focus on getting IRL life sorted before summer break. Sohom (talk) 17:47, 22 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for explaining! - Today, 300 years of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1! We sang works for (mostly) double choir by Pachelbel, Johann Christoph Bach, Kuhnau/Bach, Gounod and Rheinberger! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 25 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
That is very good سمیه راسل (talk) 04:54, 2 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

DYK nomination of Soumen Mitra

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  Hello! Your submission of Soumen Mitra at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Flibirigit (talk) 18:58, 5 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

This nomination still needs some attention if you are willing. The nominator has not responded. Flibirigit (talk) 02:01, 24 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

Request

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Hi there, can you please indef-extend-protect User:Abhiimanyu7 as per WP:UPROT. I not need to edit my userpage regularly, I feel happy if you protect my userpage if possible and protection help to secure pages from vandals and other types of bad edits. --Regards,  KB~Abhiimanyu7  talk  07:06, 19 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

I don't see a specific reason to do that. No need to protect it imo unless you are being specifically targetted. Sohom (talk) 16:53, 19 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for you're response, I've understand. --Regards,  KB~Abhiimanyu7  talk  17:08, 19 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

April music

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story · music · places

Thank you for improving article quality in April! - My story is about music that Bach and Picander gave the world 300 years (and 19 days) ago, - listen (on the conductor's birthday) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:32, 20 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

I finally managed to upload the pics I meant for Easter, see places. - Also finally, I managed a FAC, Easter Oratorio. I wanted that on the main page for Easter Sunday, but no, twice. You are invited to join a discussion about what "On this day" means, day or date. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:43, 25 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2025-18

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WikiCup 2025 May newsletter

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The second round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 April at 23:59 UTC. To reiterate what we said in the previous newsletter, we are no longer disqualifying contestants based on how many points (now known as round points) they received. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. These tournament points are carried over between rounds, and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers at the end of each round. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far. Everyone who competed in round 2 will advance to round 3 unless they have withdrawn or been banned.

Round 2 was quite competitive. Four contestants scored more than 1,000 round points, and eight scored more than 500 points (including one who has withdrawn). The following competitors scored at least 800 points:

In addition, we would like to recognize   Generalissima (submissions) for her efforts; she scored 801 round points but withdrew before the end of the round.

The full scores for round 2 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 13 featured articles, 20 featured lists, 4 featured-topic articles, 138 good articles, 7 good-topic articles, and more than 100 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 19 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 300 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed in Round 3. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:03, 29 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you!

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  The Technical Barnstar
For User:Sohom Datta/fastreview, which has been saving my sanity and also my ability to move my fingers. Rusalkii (talk) 07:05, 30 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! Hope you liked it! Sohom (talk) 15:28, 3 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 1 May 2025

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About your userboxes

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Hi Sodium—hope all is well :) As the guy who started the RfC for WP:STICKYDECO, the intention was not to allow opting-out of CSS float, but things which "float" on top of content (I'm glad that class was renamed to avoid confusion).

The intention was to hide the stuff which follows you down the screen as you scroll. You are, of course, welcome to curate your page as you wish, but I would be very surprised if someone complained about your userboxes being visible. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:52, 3 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

@HouseBlaster, I initially wanted to hide the {{Special:Impact}} template using WP:STICKYDECO since it leads to a fair bit of FOUC when the page is loaded. (There is a fair bit of the page jumping around which might become a issue for some folks) However, if I specifically remove only that, the userpage looks really unbalanced, (with the userbox extending beyond the content), necessitating the removal of the userboxes to make the page more balanced.
This is more a bandaid fix, the correct fix would be figure out how Special:Impact works and remove the initial scaffolding FOUC on loading the page. (Which I intend to get to at some point  ) Sohom (talk) 14:44, 3 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Actually I fixed it with a bit of CSS, and the sticky-deco tags have been removed! Sohom (talk) 14:56, 3 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2025-19

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Drafts

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Hello. You can remove the drafts, because they're not even auto-confirmed and anonim people will just create vandalism pages in the drafts, and even if they don't create a page about the article, they'll write vandalism in the drafts and no one will check it. Skittle-chan1986 (talk) 12:01, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

It's like on my draft;Guf rapper. I'm write that draft at Jan 2024 and he will deleted only at Aug 2024 Skittle-chan1986 (talk) 12:02, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Draft:Guf(rapper) has already been deleted, there isn't much to do here. Sohom (talk) 14:42, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
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This is ridiculous

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Being partially banned from editing for 3 months because of your own dang talk page.

Freeness doesn’t exist on Wikipedia. 199.192.122.199 (talk) 19:43, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

You are free to edit other pages, shit posting on your own talk pages is not productive to Wikipedia, you can start a blog or something to do whatever you are doing on Wikipedia at the moment. Sohom (talk) 19:52, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
What do you mean crap posting? 199.192.122.199 (talk) 19:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Nothing on that talk page is related in any way to encyclopedic work. That is Wikipedia's primary intent, not to be a forum. (Again, a small bit of fun is fine, but a talk page filled with nothing related your own musings is toeing the line). Sohom (talk) 20:07, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Where did I even cross the line? I was tryna get internet screamer it’s own page! 199.192.122.199 (talk) 20:31, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Again, the only page you cannot edit at the moment is your own talk page, you should be able to edit other articles, to add sources or such similar encyclopedic tasks. Feel free to improve other articles or write a reliably sourced draft for Internet screamer if you can find all the sources. Posting on your own talk page about whatever that is does not help us much. Sohom (talk) 20:54, 10 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Then ask the jumpscares page monitor/idiot that is Soetermans on me editing articles. 199.192.122.199 (talk) 01:34, 11 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

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abracadabra_LA

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Why did you delete the draft I was working on and asking for help with. This is really not helpful and not in the spirit of sharing information with the world? I am first time writer/editor and am trying to ge things correct and this is a very heavy handed move that prevents important information being shared with the public HHSILVER (talk) 15:24, 15 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

@HHSILVER, Your page was clearly advertising and eulogizing a specific entity. Per our policy, we do not allow any form of advertising on Wikipedia. Please survey this page before creating more articles. Sohom (talk) 15:32, 15 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
This page was the opposite of the advertising. There is no product. There is nothing for sale. It is also the opposite of eulogizing . Eulogizing refers to death and this project is about restoring life. Also and very specifically there is also no entity. So politely you are incorrect on all 3 counts. This page describes an important historical opportunity for the city. I am fine to fine tune this until it meets community standards and this is my first time posting to Wiki but this is not helpful. Can you please restore the draft that I spend hours working on so I can copy it and also continue working on it. Thank you, Harris HHSILVER (talk) 15:40, 15 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
@HHSILVER, Promotion does not necessarily have to lead to a sale or have a product attached to it. Promoting a idea or opportunity (as you said in your own words) is still promotion. Also, in this context, eulogizing refers to the act of talking about a entity in superlative terms, which your writing did do. To quote your own writing, Abracadabra_La is a vessel for manifesting a desirable urban vision for Los Angeles, this is clearly promotion, cut and dry.
Regarding returning your draft, I first need confirmation that you do understand our policies on promotional material (linked above) AND the fact that you have read through and complied with the conflict of interest disclosure policies outlined in the last message Theroadislong left you. Once you have done so, can I consider returning the draft. (Though honestly, looking further the draft needs to be completely rewritten from scratch anyway to fit into our policies, I would encourage you to do that instead of asking for it back) Sohom (talk) 15:58, 15 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Hi, You used the word advertising not promotion when you first wrote and what I responded to. Also this is not promotion. It's my attempt to accurately provide information about an important civic proposal at a historical time for Los Angeles.
What you say is cut and dry is also not as I quote Michael Sorkin's definition of desirability which is an urbanist theory and that seems to have been misunderstood.
I would like the draft so I can at least copy it and place it outside of wiki.
I didn't realize that people who aren't subject matter experts are able to delete my work.
Again I am new to this but I find this to be not productive.
Can you please restore my draft without your opinion of why it needs to be completely re-written which is not my writing process and also not productive or collegial.
Thank you, --Harris HHSILVER (talk) 16:15, 15 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
@HHSILVER I quote Michael Sorkin, I quoted the first sentence of your draft, which does not quote anyone. Wikipedia articles are meant to be objective and not use flowery/eulogizing/promotional language.
Regarding the rest, please actually read my message above, the conditions for providing you with a copy of the text are simple, actually read through our policies that you have disregarded and show that you are committing to following them going forward. If you do not do that, there is really no point of this exchange happening. Regarding the comment about "experts", I would add Wikipedia:Expert editors to your reading list, TLDR, Wikipedia does not treat edits by experts in a particular topic as "special", rather you are treated as a regular editor alongside everyone else. Sohom (talk) 16:54, 15 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
I'm just reading this now. This is so unnecessary unfriendly and unhelpful and accusatory. I actually quote the urban theory of the desireablt. This is an unkown but relevant academic theory. Instead of discussing ideas we are discussing style in an orthographic sense. My writing is never flowery, or promotional. While that may be tool to dismiss the writing it's not accurate statement. Nor was the text that came up that said my writing was generated by Large Language Model. HHSILVER (talk) 00:07, 16 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
@HHSILVER All I wanted was an affirmation that you would follow have followed our policies going forward if I did restore the page. I am not accusing you of anything here, I was stating that to me the writing was advertising oriented (and explaining why it seemed that way). In any case, that is water under the bridge. Draft:Abracadabra LA is a good step in the right direction of trying to follow our policies and writing in a tone that is inline with the way Wikipedia tends to represent things. Sohom (talk) 00:59, 16 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
words have meanings. Advertising has a very specific meaning. My writing is the opposite of advertising. Between this and being (falsely) accused of using large language models it's impossible to address what I have been asked to address. I get that my style isn't dialed in. But the information was interesting relevant and addition to human culture and it was just knee capped thoughtlessly. HHSILVER (talk) 01:29, 16 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Draft Abracadabra LA

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Hi,

I'm new to Wikipedia writing. I was working on a draft that someone told me you deleted. I don't have another copy of it. Can you please undelete it so I can make a copy of work and keep it off line. Thank you. I'm trying to find my seal legs here but feel that everyone is cutting them off. I had no idea that my work in draft form could be deleted. again thank you. --Harris HHSILVER (talk) 17:42, 15 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

I've copied the content to https://pastebin.com/dwyvzeys purely so that you can reffer to it offwiki, I am not restoring it onwiki. Sohom (talk) 18:13, 15 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. This is really been horrific experience. This is my first wiki so there is a learning curve for me but this is not collegial. My sense is that there may be some style issues but no one actually contemplated the project that I was writing anbiur about and it’s cultural implications in this historic moment in the city. The accusations of it being written by a large language model, and that its advertising are also ridiculous. I can work on my encyclopedia style but the editors seem happier to chop something down than to help a writer contribute. Again thanks for giving me access to my work. I think this is the first time I’ve ever had my work taken from me and it was really off putting. I expected help and some back and forth not a delete of an important urban project based on nonsense that it had been written by ai when I never use ai for any writing ever. HHSILVER (talk) 23:53, 15 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

AFC submission changes

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Uh... what are you tracking with all of your changes to {{AfC submission}} and its subpages? (please do not ping on reply) Primefac (talk) 21:46, 17 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

The idea was to check for cases where {{Afc submission}} was used in the format |ts=21:50, 17 May 2025 (UTC), which (a) breaks the template and (b) appears to be somewhat popular due to the proliferation of AI writing drafts. Sohom (talk) 21:50, 17 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
I don't think my current logic is there yet, and I did not test it for all cases :( Sohom (talk) 21:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Are there any malformed |ts= uses? I feel like Category:AfC pending submissions by age would show pages in the "without an age" subcat if things weren't reading right. Primefac (talk) 00:28, 18 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
I don't know if there is one currently around. The uses typically look like [2], based on the categories there the empty date category does not get included in that case. Sohom (talk) 00:34, 18 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Malformed AFC submissions

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A tag has been placed on Category:Malformed AFC submissions indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 21:48, 17 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Liz, See above. Sohom (talk) 21:51, 17 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (May 17)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Timtrent was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 22:02, 17 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
 
Hello, Sohom Datta! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 22:02, 17 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Timtrent, see two sections, above, I was mostly testing some changes to the template. Sohom (talk) 22:04, 17 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Perhaps you need to test them differently. The malformed template appears to be caused by AI generation, though that is by no means certain. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 22:07, 17 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
I'll use a deactivated/your declined template for testing (since I don't actually need it to be active). My idea was to add them to a category. Sohom (talk) 22:12, 17 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Sohom Datta/sandbox

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. A tag has been placed on User:Sohom Datta/sandbox requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 22:03, 17 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Declined by me, I don't think I'm violating any WEBHOSTING by testing Wikipedia-related stuff in my sandbox. Yes, the page looks a bit mad, but that's just experiments/tests building up over time. Sohom (talk) 22:22, 17 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2025-21

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Articles for Creation backlog drive

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Hello Sohom Datta:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive in June!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 1 month of outstanding reviews from the current 3+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 June 2025 through 30 June 2025.

You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is a backlog of over 3200 pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:25, 20 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

BAGBot: Your bot request SodiumBot 2

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Someone has marked Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/SodiumBot 2 as needing your input. Please visit that page to reply to the requests. Thanks! AnomieBOT 16:09, 20 May 2025 (UTC) To opt out of these notifications, place {{bots|optout=operatorassistanceneeded}} anywhere on this page.Reply

DYK for Soumen Mitra

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On 22 May 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Soumen Mitra, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Soumen Mitra helped restore a building which had housed one of India's first mental asylums? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Soumen Mitra. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Soumen Mitra), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Ganesha811 (talk) 00:02, 22 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Deletion review for List of birds of Lakshadweep

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An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of birds of Lakshadweep. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:31, 23 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Responded and restored. Sohom (talk) 01:26, 24 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Please consider editing that closing statement?
Newer users are often reluctant to approach the sysop who deleted their content, because they see that sysop as a hostile authority figure. DRV's rules do specifically allow users to come directly to DRV if they don't want to speak to the deleter.
In the circumstances, I think putting criticism of that user in a box that they aren't supposed to edit or reply to is not very fair.—S Marshall T/C 08:32, 24 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
cc @S Marshall, my closing comments there were very much in a "please do these things next time" tone rather than anything else more combative and I think it is clear that my restoration was unconditional and I bear no ill will here.
While, I do understand that DRV rules allow a user come straight to the forum that is not how I, you or in most cases other new editors would have typically handled such a disagreement. As a non-admin, my first instinct would have been a simple "Hey, so and so page is actually a copy of a different page" which would have probably resulted in the restoration and is less work than a WP:DRV (and that was basically what I said in the closing statement).
cc @Mitsingh feel free to use this section to reply to my closing statement on DRV if you want, or ask any questions you might have regarding it (or any other aspect of Wikipedia). If you do feel that the feedback given was unfair and should be removed, I will strike it. Sohom (talk) 15:11, 24 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

May thanks

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story · music · places

Thank you for improving article quality in May. One of mine was Jadwiga Rappé. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:52, 24 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

DYK for CSS fingerprinting

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On 25 May 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article CSS fingerprinting, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that CSS can be used to track and identify you? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/CSS fingerprinting. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, CSS fingerprinting), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 25 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Re: CSS fingerprinting

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  Mass Surveillance Barnstar
This is a good article, and it's a pretty important topic for browser tracking that I heard of for the first time, and probably a good few more people will hear about for the first time, in this article. Anyway, it was an interesting read. So, I'd like to award you the Mass Surveillance barnstar, from WikiProject Mass Surveillance. As I just had the idea after seeing the CSS fingerprinting article, you're its first recipient. Mrfoogles (talk) 17:14, 25 May 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! Nice to know you liked the article, it was a super interesting rabbit hole to dive into. I'm looking at improving a bunch of web privacy articles (like say Zombie cookie) over the next few weeks/months. :) Sohom (talk) 04:42, 26 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2025-22

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Revert https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tidal_wave_gd

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it is the 7 millon article Jhoncena1234 (talk) 02:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Really doesn't matter. Article on Wikipedia need to be articles, not placeholders. Also this literally isn't a race. Sohom (talk) 02:36, 28 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

hello

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hi sohom datta, im memer(i came from wikikids), you became my mentor or somthing, so, hi i geus. Memer(fromwikikids) (talk) 10:48, 1 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi Hi, feel free to ask any questions about Wikipedia to me :) Sohom (talk) 17:50, 1 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2025-23

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Tech News: 2025-24

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Page deletion issue

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Hello, I hope you are going. You have recently deleted my page. I wonder why. Please could yoy help me to restore it? Djornele MPIERE (talk) 07:01, 11 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

You've already written over the page, so I cannot restore it. Sohom (talk) 16:09, 11 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

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AI Source Verification script screenshot

This confused me quite a bit. Please move the script to User:Polygnotus/Scripts/GeminiProofreaderOld.js. Thank you, Polygnotus (talk) 08:01, 12 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Done, this was just me trying to save/adopt a script of a locked sockpuppet cause I thought it was genuinely useful. Sohom (talk) 11:27, 12 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, it is combined into User:Polygnotus/Scripts/AI Proofreader which can use Gemini, ChatGPT and Claude. I am working on User:Polygnotus/Scripts/AI Source Verification.js as well. Maybe I should stick these things on Github because MediaWiki is not intended for this kinda stuff. Polygnotus (talk) 11:29, 12 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Ooh, that looks interesting,I wonder if it could be used to detect hallucinated references ? Sohom (talk) 11:53, 12 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Sohom Datta Among many other uses, yes. It was inspired by User:Phlsph7/SourceVerificationAIAssistant.js. Polygnotus (talk) 11:55, 12 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Another question, because one can never ask enough questions: if the ToneCheck model hasn't been trained yet, and it will be trained by using some basic tf–idf techniques, I would expect there to be either a wordlist of promotional words/phrases or a dataset from which a wordlist could be derived. That could be super useful for User:Moonythedwarf/extra-unreliable and User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/DetectPromo.js and User:Polygnotus/Scripts/DetectPromo and other similar scripts. Would it be possible for the person who trains that thing to share the dataset or list? Polygnotus (talk) 11:24, 13 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

The last time I checked it was a BERT into a classifier, tho @PPelberg (WMF) might find these links useful (especially considering they contain words that could point to promotional content). Sohom (talk) 15:09, 13 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Indeed, but the idea was to train the model based on articles tagged with {{advert}} or {{promo}} tags IIRC. And if you have that dataset, might as well use it for more than one purpose. Polygnotus (talk) 15:13, 13 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
I think the announcement of the intent to collect the dataset was what triggered Tamzin's statement at the big AI RFC, (which explicitly calls for the destruction of datasets), I assume folks are waiting for a verdict there before proceeding/more widely publicizing the intent to collect datasets. Sohom (talk) 15:22, 13 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Hm, maybe I misunderstood? Here someone says they have peacock, fanpov, advert, autobiography(?) and weasel datasets. Dataset destruction sounds too much like book burning for my taste. Polygnotus (talk) 15:25, 13 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Ah, it looks like they wrote: If the code exists somewhere out there, created by the WMF and fully available to anyone under an open-source license, it will be used against us. but the code is just some JavaScript that shows a popup and makes an API call; it is the model they worry about. Polygnotus (talk) 15:33, 13 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
All wikis should have the option to opt out of being used to develop an AI tool; to disable or decline to enable an AI tool; or, based on credible concerns of facilitating abuse, to compel the destruction of machine-learning data that has been gathered without local consensus. I think Tamzin's proposal is very clear and explicit about it's intentions here.
I think the datasets being referred to in the task are the initial "proof-of-concept" testing datasets. They sent out a call asking for folks to help out in labeling data shortly afterwards. (like so [20]) Sohom (talk) 16:25, 13 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
GDPR for AI   Thanks; I'll just make my own dataset. I use Deep Java Library for sentiment analysis which uses a DistilBERT model. I am curious if it can figure out the difference between a neutral description of negative events vs a POV description of neutral events. One time I tried it with a set of newspaper headlines and it was pretty interesting. People think the problem is that the WMF simply does not understand the community because they are not a part of it, but Trizek has 70k edits on fr.wiki since 2009. Polygnotus (talk) 16:36, 13 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

A Barnstar for You!

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A cup of coffee for you!

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  For your clean up of Brave (web browser), -- JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 04:49, 15 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Ooh, thank you :) Sohom (talk) 05:34, 15 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

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The DCWC is back!

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Is 123telugu.com is Unrelaible source Farjana837 (talk) 14:59, 20 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Farjana837 To my understanding, yes. Looks like a WP:TABLOID Sohom (talk) 16:17, 20 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

June thanks

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Thank you for improving article quality in June! - I heard this music, yesterday, - streamed a day before at a different ___location. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 23 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi hi! This month I worked on Liquid Glass (at DYKN) and cleaned up Brave (web browser) (which I've now nommed for GAN!) Sohom (talk) 15:28, 23 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
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Back up

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Can you back me up here? Maybe reach out to them? The reaction "they don't respond enthusiastically so we'll test elsewhere" is understandable, but as the largest wiki this is the best test environment. And there is a careful balance, the WMF shouldn't just ignore all feedback, but they also shouldn't overreact to negative feedback. Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 06:25, 27 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

I think the ship has sailed there, but I've put my agreement in the thread. I'll try to reach out internally as well and see what I can do (I happen to know Samwilson, one of the folks who worked on the project, they were also my first mentor when I got into MediaWiki development). Though, I think Community Tech as a whole cares a lot about community feedback and as such we did just WP:BITE them for incorrectly asking to test on enwiki so I don't have high hopes at the moment. Sohom (talk) 12:02, 27 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! I have emailed @Sannita (WMF):. I wish they would've contacted us before posting on WP:VPT. We could've told them that that was the wrong page to post on, and we could help them tweak their message a bit so that the reception would be uniformly positive. Polygnotus (talk) 15:42, 27 June 2025 (UTC)Reply
Jack said we'll just have to be patient for 1 extra week. I was kinda worried the negative reception would lead to more serious consequences.
Weird that my "club of people who praise the WMF when they do something good and criticize the WMF when they do something bad" is such a tiny minority. Polygnotus (talk) 19:25, 27 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

WikiCup 2025 July newsletter

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The third round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 June. This round was again competitive, with three contestants scoring more than 1,000 round points:

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DYK for Liquid Glass

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On 2 July 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Liquid Glass, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Liquid Glass was criticised for being too transparent? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Liquid Glass. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Liquid Glass), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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  Hook update
Your hook reached 10,082 views (840.1 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of July 2025 – nice work!

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Administrator Elections | Call for Candidates

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The spinner never stops spinning. It gets to 136 out of 137 urls, iirc, and then spins forever, until the error page comes up with the link to your UTP. Try: https://link-dispenser.toolforge.org/analyze/Regency%20of%20Algiers .

Also: an enhancement request: there is a jitter issue in the display while it is still working on the list of urls. Do you by any chance re-sort the list on the fly while it is still running? Because the display is a bit jittery, and prevented me from focusing on a single citation that interested me, from which I wanted to select and copy some info, but before I could complete the operation, the screen jittered, the citation jumped out of view to some nearby ___location beyond the window borders, and I had to search for it again, and try to select again, and...oops!—there it goes again. It would be nice to set a timer of maybe 30 seconds or whatever is needed to find/select/copy some info. (A checkbox option not to re-sort until done, or only at user-selected intervals, would be nice.) Thanks for a great tool! Mathglot (talk) 04:04, 9 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Additional info: I ran it again, and even when it reaches 136/137, it keeps swapping the urls around (at least the top ones, the ones I can see above the fold), with the top one rotating among these three titles:
  • Correspondance des deys d'Alger avec la cour de France 1579 — 1833
  • Rubrique : Articles N° 5
  • Traités de la France Avec les pays De l'Afrique du Nord Algérie, Tunisie, Tripolitaine, Maroc
For what it's worth, all three have the tag 'Detected issue: URL might be down', so I am guessing that maybe the tool keeps a list of urls that 404'd, and tries them again in a loop, is that right? If that is so, imho there is no need to place the one on top that is currently being regrabbed; what I would do, is just leave all the 404s in whatever order (alphabetical?) and maybe add an unobtrusive icon that would represent 'retrying this url' in front of the one you are retrying, without shifting the position of that one and all the others. Maybe something like 🔁 – (U+1F501: Clockwise Rightwards Open Circle Arrow), or (U+21BB: Clockwise Open Circle Arrow) which looks like a refresh icon, or an animated image that looks like that and gently pulses or rotates.
Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 19:51, 9 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
The 136/137 issue should be a worker that is erroring due to a DOI that returns a 404. The jitter problem is a VueJS problem which reorders elements on re-render, it might be a bit of a mess to fix, but I'll see what I can do. Sohom (talk) 20:05, 9 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Extended confirmed User

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This is not a good this for new user.how to get Extended confirmed user group tell me.you are indian people.Nation first. Olitun (talk) 10:48, 10 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Ic you are indian Please reply me. Olitun (talk) 11:08, 10 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Appealing to nationalistic sentiment will get you nowhere. I still stand by my actions to revoke WP:XC, you are clearly not a new user, having already submitted a WP:AELECT candidacy and a board election nomination that is completely AI generated and definitely partially fabricated. You may get back your extended confirmed user-right after making 500 substantial edits to the encyclopedia and engaging with our content properly instead of just doing edits to hat collect. Sohom (talk) 12:51, 10 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
From the previous account I have been working for 5 years now but this is my new account.Thank you Olitun (talk) 13:30, 10 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Care to disclose what that account is ? -- You've also claimed to be a Wikimedia Foundation employee until yesterday, I think I have the right to be more than a bit skeptical here. Sohom (talk) 13:36, 10 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
I request to remove my gaming to reach tag because this is effect my account. Olitun (talk) 13:46, 10 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
ᱟᱢᱮᱢ ᱵᱟᱰᱟᱭ ᱜᱮᱭᱟ ᱱᱚᱣᱟ ᱫᱚ ᱞᱟᱹᱜᱤᱫ ᱟᱱ ᱠᱟᱛᱷᱟ ᱫᱚ ᱵᱟᱝ ᱠᱟᱱᱟ Olitun (talk) 13:47, 10 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Besides your ability to edit extended-confirmed pages, almost nothing is affected. Almost every page you previously edited is still accessible to you (yes you cannot submit a WP:AELECT nomination but that is a feature not a bug) It is within my admin discretion to remove WP:XC and I do not intend to reverse the decision outside of community consensus, if you want to appeal it feel free to take me to WP:ANI to do so. Sohom (talk) 14:05, 10 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

LLM Editfilter

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Can you add utm_source=chatgpt.com to Special:AbuseFilter/1325? Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 12:05, 10 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Polygnotus, Special:AbuseFilter/1346 already has that, maybe it should be merged ? Sohom (talk) 12:44, 10 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yeah that would make sense. Polygnotus (talk) 12:54, 10 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Your GA nomination of Brave (web browser)

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Brave (web browser) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria.   This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of GalStar -- GalStar (talk) 03:43, 11 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Request for review: Kocaeli Health and Technology University

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  • Subject:* University article review
  • Description:* This article covers a newly established university with an infobox, logo, and cited sources. Requesting a quality assessment and suggestions for improvement.

Hi everyone,

I recently created the article Kocaeli Health and Technology University and would appreciate a review or quality rating. Thank you in advance!

-- Newinwiki8 (talk) 11:20, 12 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Newinwiki8 It will reviewed by other volunteers, that area is typically not my speciality. Sohom (talk) 15:49, 13 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Your nomination of Brave (web browser) has passed

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Why is this not an article?

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Should exist. 125.48.50.55 (talk) 13:13, 17 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

What is not a article ? Sohom (talk) 18:15, 17 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Administrator Elections | Discussion phase

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For some reason PTUL logged my PROD of Joseph Friebert (disambiguation) as an AfD nomination... maybe you should look into this? mwwv converseedits 18:18, 18 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

July thanks

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Thank you for improving article quality in July! - Three Ukrainian topics were on the main page today, at least at the beginning, RD and DYK, - see my talk. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:16, 20 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

On Bach's day of death, I decorated my user pages in memory of his music, and my story ends on "peace". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 28 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Thank you for the message and for reverting it. — Sadko (words are wind) 15:42, 26 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

No issues! Sohom (talk) 15:47, 26 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Godot Wild Jam

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Can you indicate what the claim to notability was on Godot Wild Jam, as I sure don't see it. At all. Fram (talk) 12:07, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

The claim of significance was that it was one of the oldest Godot game engine game jams. Note that WP:A7 does not require demonstrating notability, just a claim to significance. WP:A7 should be considered a mechanism for backdoor deletion. Sohom (talk) 12:18, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
This "claim to significance" is not even mentioned in the article. So there was no claim to significance (and even then, being "one of the oldest" is not a claim to significance anyway). Fram (talk) 12:35, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I did a cursory Google search to understand the article subject, but that is because I happen to work on open-source software and programming and tend towards finding ways of documenting and (potentially) saving articles about cool programming projects/initiatives. Sohom (talk) 12:58, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
So you ignored A7 and the actual article because you like the subject. That's awfully close to WP:INVOLVED. Perhaps stick to things you can neutrally assess and not ones you like. Fram (talk) 13:10, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
WP:A7 requires significance, I went out of my way to look for significance. Yes, that is more work than what WP:A7 requires, but I think it still adheres to the spirit of the law rather than the exact letter. I don't think my assessment after doing a cursory Google search was necessarily wrong. Also, I did not ignore deletion policy here and I for the most part have agreed with your overall assessment that the article should be deleted (and voted as such in the deletion discussion). I do not think I did anything wrong from the POV of WP:INVOLVED. Just because I work in programming does not suddenly disqualify me from adminning on everything programming related. I generally defer to other folks (from a administration POV) in areas that I'm actually involved in IRL (particularly web security, privacy and web browsers in general etc). Sohom (talk) 13:30, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
But you didn't find any significance anyway. And you claimed those things were in the article, which wasn't true. Being "one of the oldest" nor getting a nod of approval from someone from the actual engine (not an independent source, and not really a reliable one either) is indicating any significance. I don't get why you want to waste community time on this when you could have either deleted it or let it to someone less a priori enthusiastic to deal with it. I sure don't get why you would suggest merging something without any reliable independent source about it. We don't just include things because we like them or we think they are cool, and we shouldn't go around suggesting to newbies that this is an acceptable thing to do. Fram (talk) 13:39, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
"Significance" is potential for notability. A project could have been notable because it is "one of the oldest". If this was any event but a game jam being "one of the oldest" would typically have encountered some coverage in tech RS (imo?). The way I interpreted that source in the moment was "oh wait Godot talks about this in their blog and I've heard about it, maybe this has some promise/potential in terms of notability". On a further evaluation, that intuition turn out to be wrong and I have since said that this should be deleted.
As I said in the AFD, what I meant when I said "merge" was to include a section about game jams in general on the page about Godot game engine and include a mention about the wild game jam (through the source I pointed to). I agree that "merge" was probably the wrong word to use in that context (in my defense, it was 8 o'clock in the morning and my first few admin actions in a hot second) but it was still a semi-accurate description of what I wanted the person to do. I did not see that they were a relatively new user and would have worded my response differently if I had realized that.
We don't just include things because we like them or we think they are cool, agreed! I have no intention of platforming non-notable stuff on Wikipedia even if they are stuff that I find cool. (I've written about notable stuff I find cool at Cross-site leaks or Site isolation and I do intend to continue doing that though) In this case, I justed wanted to give a event the benefit of doubt/second chance in a area where I know mainstream coverage is kinda hard to come by. Hope that clears up my intentions here and where my head was at. I'll take care to be more through with my evaluations and more descriptive in my communications with newbies going forward. Sohom (talk) 14:20, 1 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

DCWC August update

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CSD tag

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Are you testing with this tag? Because it's showing up at CAT:SD.-- Ponyobons mots 21:04, 5 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Yep, my bad, removed. Sohom (talk) 21:13, 5 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
It was a head scratcher. All good.-- Ponyobons mots 21:24, 5 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Administrators' newsletter – August 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2025).

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  • Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, G15, has been enacted. It applies to pages generated by a large language model (LLM) without human review.
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  • Wikimania 2025 is happening in Nairobi, Kenya, and online from August 6 to August 9. This year marks 20 years of Wikimania. Interested users can join the online event. Registration for the virtual event is free and will remain open throughout Wikimania. You can register here now.

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Hi since you are a knowledgeable developer weighing in on various matters on the village pump, I thought you might have an answer to this. Is there a tool or gadget or request system to surface some inbound referrer data for external links to an article? e.g. in https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=all-agents&redirects=0&start=2025-07-22&end=2025-08-06&pages=Odessa_pogroms, I can see a spike in the page views in the last week or two. Is there a way to find out where they are coming from? Andre🚐 17:54, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@AndreJustAndre There is toolforge:wikinav which gives you click-stream data, but it looks like it is stuck on June 2025 data. That being said, we have anonymized click stream data across a month at [48] so you could possibly write a script to check the anonymized referrer data across July to August. That being said, I don't think it can be used to find the exact referrers used in the spike, since the data is anonymized and aggregated over a month and we don't have any (non-NDA) tools that provides that data at the granularity or a day (or even a couple of days) at the moment. Sohom (talk) 20:42, 7 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 9 August 2025

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Plus a mysterious CheckUser incident, and the news with Wikinews.
A review of June, July and August.
Who is this guy?
Threads since June.
And slop.
It's not a conlang, it's a crossword puzzle.
gang aft agley, an' lea'e us nought but grief an' pain, for promis'd joy!
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Tech News: 2025-33

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SodiumBot

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Hi, has something recently changed with the configuration of SodiumBot? My watchlist is set to exclude bot edits, but this morning edits by SodiumBot (FRS notifications) are displaying. Thanks. Schazjmd (talk) 14:05, 12 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

I don't think SodiumBot has the bot flag set yet. Will probably need to ping a friendly/active crat for that. See Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Approved :( Sohom (talk) 14:09, 12 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

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Your nomination of Liquid Glass has passed

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story · music · places

Congratulations to more quality content, with a story about a singer --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:09, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Check out my talk for an Independence day, or: the pic of Oksana Lyniv was taken on 24 August. There's listening and reading in today's story, and I like both. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:19, 24 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

ooh, I'll check it out! Sohom (talk) 16:55, 25 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Fixing unwanted redirects in PD2

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Hello, @Sohom Datta... Please fix any redirect issues in PD2 because there is a unwanted redirects into The Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement. Thanks.... 158.140.164.22 (talk) 09:51, 23 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

This not a area I typically look at, I'll let some other volunteer handle this. Sohom (talk) 16:04, 23 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

New pages patrol September 2025 Backlog drive

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Brain

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Screenshot of the UserWatchlist script

Lemme steal your brain for a little bit. There is obviously a reason why this hasn't been implemented (right? it is such an obvious feature that its omission means they don't want stalkers, right?). Do you think the world will explode if I release it? Is there something similar out there? There must be, right? But I don't see anything on Wikipedia:User_scripts/List#Watchlist_and_recent_changes.

So basically it takes the most recent diffid, stores it in localStorage, compares it. I have something similar in Java which can send me push notifications. It is probably possible to send a push notification from a Tampermonkey script but I was too lazy to google it. Polygnotus (talk) 06:44, 29 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Polygnotus, There isn't anything similar out there to best of my knowledge. I don't think the world would explode, but you might get folks who would ask you to gate it behind specific permissions (admin for example) or in a worst case scenario MFD it if there is evidence of clear abuse using the script. Things won't explode, but they might get messy fast and the WMF does not want to get into the mess. Sohom (talk) 13:32, 29 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
How do I gate a javascript behind specific permissions? Is there a snippet somewhere I can steal? Also, wouldn't it be real easy to strip out whatever code I put in to restrict it? mw.config.get('wgUserGroups').includes('sysop'); is pretty unsophisticated and easy to remove. Polygnotus (talk) 13:34, 29 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Polygnotus Gate it behind a if statement like so,
if ( mw.config.get( 'wgUserGroups' ).indexOf( 'sysop' ) !== -1 ) {
  // do something
} else {
  // you are not a admin, don't do the admin-only thing
}
Sohom (talk) 13:39, 29 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Polygnotus Yes, it is easy to remove, but so will almost everything else (outside of obfuscating the JS code). The real reason folks won't be removing the check is peer pressure/fear of being blocked (case to the point, the AWB check is trivial to bypass if you know a bit of game hacking, but the reason folks don't do it is because they would be blocked if they did. Sohom (talk) 14:29, 29 August 2025 (UTC)Reply


Also, can we stick a link to Help:INTERWIKI in MediaWiki talk:Interwiki intro? I have never understood why special pages don't link to the relevant explanation. Thanks, Polygnotus (talk) 09:21, 29 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

Regarding this, MediaWiki:Interwiki intro already has a link to that page (on the word interwiki linking). Sohom (talk) 13:35, 29 August 2025 (UTC)Reply