Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Austin Target shooting

2025 Austin Target shooting

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Point 4 of WP:EVENTCRITERIA - Routine kinds of news events, whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable. XYZ1233212 (talk) 01:44, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, Events, United States of America, and Texas. XYZ1233212 (talk) 01:44, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to ~~History of Target Corporation#Since 2020~~; I just added a brief paragraph there. This is in accordance with:
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion#Before nominating: checks and alternatives
- Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion including WP:ATD and WP:ATD-R

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 02:02, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

- I'm changing my proposed redirect target; see my 30 August comment below. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 17:09, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A news story, not a subject of sustained secondary analysis. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 04:03, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 2025 in Texas#August. I disagree with A. B.'s proposed redirection and believe that the section dedicated to the shooting in the Target article should be deleted as well. This isn't an instance where a ___location has its own dedicated article, this is an incident that happened at a single Target store among many stores. The El Paso shooting for instance, is mentioned in the Walmart article because the shooting changed company policy. Raskuly (talk) 02:11, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Per WP:Crime the circumstances of this crime are unusual - suspect claiming to be Jesus and found naked clutching a bible. One of the victim's was transgender so this case is getting discussion in the LGBTQ community and there is criticism of the police for deadnaming & misgendering the victim. I think it is simply too soon to delete the page and perhaps we should wait to see whether on going coverage continues. I believe the unusual circumstances of this shooting make it stand out from other crimes. Inexpiable (talk) 18:19, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per reasons put forward by @Inexpiable. NelsonLee20042020 (talk) 09:54, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per reasons put forward by Inexpiable and Fella942. GoatLord234 (talk) 01:57, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per Raskuly. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:04, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Svartner (talk) 02:55, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per reasons put forward by @Inexpiable. Additionally, the shooter was taken in alive, so this isn't an open-and-shut case like many random shootings. This was a mass casualty event. Fella9421321312231 (talk) 19:34, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per reasons put forward by @Inexpiable 128.62.72.88 (talk) 02:49, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adding on to this: to give a similar example, the Eaton Township Weis Markets shooting, which had the same number of casualties, has its own page due to the unusual circumstances of the shooting and the bizarre history of the suspect. I'd say this shooting is equally significant for the same reasons. As the suspect's trial progresses, more info is bound to come out. Fella9421321312231 (talk) 20:19, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep for reasons put forward by @Inexpiable 2605:A601:A0E7:6E00:0:0:0:101D (talk) 01:59, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per reasons put forward by @Inexpiable. Warmth and safety (talk) 04:34, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per Raskuly Metallurgist (talk) 17:32, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per reasons put forward by @Inexpiable. Conner.mccollim2008 (talk) 01:56, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per reasons put forward by @Inexpiable. Trans people will not and should not be erased. 132.147.167.5 (talk) 02:46, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Do you believe I was in favor of redirecting because one of the victims was transgender? Raskuly (talk) 17:18, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm changing my preferred redirect target to 2025 in Texas#August per Raskuly. As to Inexpiable's point, these bizarre, tragic American shootings are massive aberrations from regular human behavior so it's routine for them to have other random or odd aspects. I don't see this shooting being persistently covered in the news over coming years. I may be wrong; if I am, it's easy to restore the redirect and update the page. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 17:09, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]