Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Integrated arts

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The result was redirect to Arts integration. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:09, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Integrated arts

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WP:DICDEF. Sources in the article throw the term around but do not actually define it. This just seems to be a mishmash of random ideas with no through-line. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:57, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:57, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 23:07, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep/Redirect but this version is terrible, full of vague waffle. This seems to be a thing in (US only?) education, which needs to said at the start. Probably needs to be on the education sort list. The article has been around since 2005, & has had over 100K views since 2015, so presumably the subject is searched for. Johnbod (talk) 03:22, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnbod: What is your argument for keeping? Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 03:25, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't clear what your arguments for deletion were. It is clearly more than a dicdef, & the sources are adequate; no doubt more are out there. Johnbod (talk) 03:27, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My concern is that the article just a random bundle of buzzwords with no clear topic. It doesn't seem to be a thing. And that that the sources just use the term without explaining what it is. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 06:34, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There's a ton on google, including several books. The lead's (uncited) "The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts defines arts integration as "an approach to teaching in which students construct and demonstrate understanding through an art form. Students engage in a creative process which connects an art form and another subject and meets evolving objectives in both."" seems a decent definition. Or the example in the next section - drawing pictures in a history lesson (in my day we just coloured them in). I don't know about the US, but in the UK keen middle-class mums spend hours building model medieval villages for their children's "school projects". Some of the google sources are even British. It is mostly used in primary education it seems. Johnbod (talk) 14:50, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Johnbod (talk) 14:53, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep - in that it is defined in Elliot W. Eisner, The Arts and the Creation of Mind, page 39 here. I would delete it for being a bunch of half plagiarized academic paper doublespeak but that can be cleaned up. There is a DICDEF problem in that it seems more than one discipline calls itself "Integrated Arts", re: the stuff that comes after "It may also refer to" - Wikipedia doesn't do different things with the same name, gotta pick one. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 19:46, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Arts integration, which covers what seems to be the primary topic of this article more clearly and in greater detail. The Kennedy Center quote cited above uses Arts inegration. Sandy267 (talk) 01:58, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! The waffle mother ship. Yes, better redirect there. Johnbod (talk) 02:59, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per Sandy267. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 16:36, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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