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Education
edit- Colleen Bevis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Local activist who has not received significant coverage in independent sources. Article is written as a memorial, not an encyclopedia entry. Hirolovesswords (talk) 01:05, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV per the sources already present in the article. Two substantial by-lined newspaper articles by independent journalists, and a biographical entry written by the library staff of the University of South Florida for her papers held in the Louis de la Parte Florida Mental Health Institute Research Library. That is three independent sources with significant coverage. Passes GNG.4meter4 (talk) 02:18, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Obituaries are routine coverage, not significant coverage. Hirolovesswords (talk) 13:24, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Nope. The opposite is true. Independent journalist written by-lined obituaries are not routine coverage and have never been interpreted in that way at AFD. Only notable people get by-lined obits and by-lined obits are strong evidence of notability. Many newspapers have a team of journalists and editors who are dedicated solely to researching and writing just obituaries of notable figures. You'd essentially be discrediting an entire area of independent journalism and independent publishing under your extraordinary argument. Only self published or paid obituaries are not significant.4meter4 (talk) 14:52, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Coalition of Higher Education Students in Scotland (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Declined prod. Nothing in google news. 2 small hits each in google books and scholar. Fails WP:ORG, LibStar (talk) 00:29, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
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Keep. There is coverage in the following articles [1], [2], and [3]. There are some passing mentions in [4], [5], [6]. As a student union this would be a nonprofit, and as a coalition of students it is also education related. The coverage in sourcing includes sources from outside Scotland and is not just local but national so appears to pass WP:NONPROFIT. Note that I did not do archive searches in Scottish/UK newspapers or search in newspapers.com so there may be more materials. 4meter4 (talk) 01:29, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Sigma Group of Institutes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG/ORGCRIT. Relies on primary, self-published and marketing sources. LvivLark (talk) 20:38, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. I think the Sigma University sources are self published :( ~Rafael! (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 21:00, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Sultan Abdul Halim Mu'adzam Shah International Islamic University (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Highly non-notable private university. I can barely find any WP:RS mentioning this university, the source cited on the article itself is the university's website. Clearly fails WP:NCORP. Hun Narkphanit (talk) 18:44, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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Delete – I agree with the nomination. Despite a search, I couldn’t find any reliable sources to support notability. The topic appears to lack significant coverage in independent, secondary sources. Editor1769 19:15, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Note: I have fixed this nomination to include elements that were previously omitted (it appears to have been copied and pasted from another nomination rather than implementing {{subst:afd2}} as is intended). No opinion. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:21, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Katherine S. Layton (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not notable. Cited sources are non-independent or primary. A WP:BEFORE turned up nothing. Kovcszaln6 (talk) 12:26, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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- MOVE BACK TO DRAFT this was moved into article space from draft more than once by the creator. The last move was very much done without properly addressing the reasons why it was moved back into draft space in the first place. Only a couple of additional sources were added. So it should either be deleted or moved back to draft. 10mmsocket (talk) 12:46, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Nope I refuse My Page to be Moved back to a Draft or even get Deleted and That it should Stay the way it is and I also don't know why The World's 1st Enclyopedia has to be so Strict on making Sure Articles look very Proper on Everything including Citations (I'm not saying Copyright and Vandalism shouldn't be One of those Things i know they're Both Bad and doesn't deserve to Exist at all) Devolver789 (talk) 13:04, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- You cannot refuse anything. This is a community. It is your contribution but it is not your article. See WP:OWN and perhaps also WP:IDONTLIKEIT. 10mmsocket (talk) 13:40, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Nope I refuse My Page to be Moved back to a Draft or even get Deleted and That it should Stay the way it is and I also don't know why The World's 1st Enclyopedia has to be so Strict on making Sure Articles look very Proper on Everything including Citations (I'm not saying Copyright and Vandalism shouldn't be One of those Things i know they're Both Bad and doesn't deserve to Exist at all) Devolver789 (talk) 13:04, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: fails WP:GNG, there is only one remotely-reliable source cited in the article and none in a search. Alpha Beta Delta Lambda (talk) 13:12, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Against Deletion: You said "none in a search" that Is actually not True because I Searched for this Information on The Chrome Search Bar and Tried looking for Available Websites for This and I did. Devolver789 (talk) 13:23, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Please review what counts as reliable source, because user-generated content doesn't count as reliable. Alpha Beta Delta Lambda (talk) 13:24, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I didn't find any sources that suggest Layton is notable. I wondered if Chechens: culture and society might be notable; ProQuest finds a reasonable short review in the ALA journal Choice from July 2015, but it'd need at least one more to meet WP:NBOOK. Adam Sampson (talk) 14:02, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think Choice counts much towards notability; they are not very discriminate in what they review and their reviews do not have enough depth. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:25, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Did a search myself and couldn't find anything that would pass WP:GNG or WP:NAUTHOR. Not to mention that the prose and broken grammar used in the article is so challenging to decipher, it might be easiest to tear it down and start over even if the subject is notable. nf utvol (talk) 18:16, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Definitely does not pass WP:PROF, my searches did not turn up any additional book reviews that would contribute to WP:AUTHOR notability, no evidence of WP:GNG notability, the unsourced state of most of the article brings WP:TNT into play, and the combativeness of Devolver789 suggests that, if kept, maintaining the article in an acceptable state of encyclopedicness is likely to be difficult. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:28, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- If You are Really considering to Delete Katherine S. Layton then Delete Draft:Katherine S. Layton aswell. Devolver789 (talk) 19:43, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- That should happen automatically; the draft is currently just a redirect to the article. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:12, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah I agree with you I don't understand why the draft doesn't have a Deletion Post unlike it's Redirection which does have one. Devolver789 (talk) 19:30, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- If the article is deleted, the redirect at the draft will presumably be deleted under criteria G8. ScalarFactor (talk) 20:06, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah I agree with you I don't understand why the draft doesn't have a Deletion Post unlike it's Redirection which does have one. Devolver789 (talk) 19:30, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- That should happen automatically; the draft is currently just a redirect to the article. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:12, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. This bizarre article smells of trolling. Possible joe job directed at the subject. —A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 21:51, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete According to the nominator, she doesn’t satisfy any notability standards.Gedaali (talk) 06:09, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- San Jose Schools, Valencia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not notable, fails WP:No original research, could not find anything about this, and does not include what it is. It could be a school, school board, etc. ~Rafael! (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 00:34, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment. Those searching for sources will need to look under its proper name in Spanish: Escuelas San José de Valencia.4meter4 (talk) 22:27, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Beckendorff Junior High School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I have carried out WP:BEFORE for this article about a middle school / junior high school, and cannot find significant coverage in reliable secondary sources to add. The existing three references are to the school's website, to the school's listing at Niche, and to the website of the school district. I do not think this school meets WP:GNG or WP:NSCHOOL. I had redirected the article to Katy, Texas#Middle schools, but that has been reverted by another editor. Tacyarg (talk) 20:58, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep per the sources. --NYC Guru (talk) 22:10, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Katy, Texas#Middle schools Coverage by the school itself or by the school district is not independent. Only independent coverage is evidence of notability. Niche.com and similar coverage is primarily a repeat of NCES data and survey results. Niche.com reports on every school in America - not selectively reporting on especially notable ones. Happy to reconsider if significant coverage is located. Gab4gab (talk) 23:10, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Katy, Texas#Middle schools: I also did a BEFORE search during New Page Review and came to the same conclusion as the nominator; while there is some local news coverage, it's routine and/or based on school or district press releases. Dclemens1971 (talk) 01:11, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- List of individuals who served as student leaders in schools (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Completely non-defining list. A student leadership position in primary school? This the very definition of WP:Trivia. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:40, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete as this does not meet WP:NLIST in my view. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 02:42, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete WP:INDISCRIMINATE. jolielover♥talk 05:56, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: I haven't had a chance to look through all the references yet, but the first 8 easily accessible ones are all reliable sources that verify the claims of student leadership [7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14]. The same arguments are relevant here as are presented in similar discussions surrounding prima facie trivial articles, e.g. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Presidents of the United States with facial hair (4th nomination) - the only consideration here is whether this article is notable for a stand-alone list per WP:LISTN. The topic is common enough to have recieved significant coverage in reliable sources (often in relation to future leadership or crimes), and the article itself references these well. Deletion arguments based on WP:INDISCRIMINATE or WP:TRIVIAL should explain why these policies apply to this list, rather than simply stating them. Epsilon.Prota talk 14:15, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Because it is broad and trivial. With the list you linked, it at least has a fixed number of people that can possibly be on the list, given there have only been so many Presidents of the US. This list is very broad and can theoretically have any of the 1,980,258 biographies in it if they were a student leader. Student leader is also not easily defineable - facial hair is. The list's entire lead paragraph is defining itself, giving it a very broad definition. Even primary school is included - primary school! I can't imagine primary or even middle school elections that have any worth in your CV or resume. jolielover♥talk 09:43, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. It’s not enough for the individual items to be verifiable, WP:NLIST requires discussion of the group as a group (even if WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS). No sources have been provided to show that "student leaders" are discussed as a collection of key individuals. Moreover, surely this list would have too many wiki-notable possible entrants — tens of thousands? If this is an important way to navigate bios (and I’m not sure it is) a category would be a better solution. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 19:19, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: WP:INDISCRIMINATE and agree with discussions here. Asteramellus (talk) 20:22, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Way too broad criteria, and technically this would also include student leaders who committed infamous acts later in life. Everyone else has cited good reasons for not maintaining this either in article or category lists. Nathannah • 📮
- Delete Not covered as a group and fails LISTN. Overly broad and indiscriminate topic that isn't a defining characteristic. No one cares that you or I or a celebrity or politician was a school class president, a position with virtually no actual responsibility (ours organized prom, fundraisers, and spirit weeks). Student government president#Notable student government presidents should also be deleted unless there's substance that describes what the person did and why it was significant. Reywas92Talk 23:40, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: This is literally non-defining and does not come close to WP:NLIST. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:51, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Sparky Flames (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. No WP:INDEPENDENT coverage, best I could find is a passing mention by USA Today. jolielover♥talk 05:25, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge to Liberty Flames and Lady Flames. Jclemens (talk) 06:05, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment. Some coverage exists, see here, here, and here. Apparently, this mascot has had several different names over the years, while maintaining the same basic eagle persona throughout. Ejgreen77 (talk) 11:49, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Keep per Ejgreen77. NotJamestack (talk) 12:17, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Leaning Keep per sources provided above which show SIGCOV. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 12:58, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Merge I am not convinced by the coverage in sources, which appears WP:TRIVIAL, and does not demonstrate standalone notability. I believe that a section in Liberty Flames and Lady Flames can easily encompass the mascot. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:53, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Interval Learning (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Available sources on this edtech company are limited to press releases and unbylined announcements, which do not satisfy the WP:NCORP criteria. The article likewise carries a press release tone. Yuvaank (talk) 17:54, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: The references in the article are not reliable; only one piece from The Hindu BusinessLine is somewhat acceptable, but that too is just routine coverage. Therefore, the subject completely fails to meet WP:NCORP. Baqi:) (talk) 14:16, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Poor to unreliable sources. Not a single source is available which can be considered WP:SIGCOV or WP:RS. Zuck28 (talk) 05:16, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails to meet WP:NCORP. RangersRus (talk) 16:44, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Yenka (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG Clenpr (talk) 09:12, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Arun Kapur (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Limited or routine coverage. Much of the available coverage focuses o institutional roles, with limited in-depth coverage. Thilsebatti (talk) 10:19, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Non-notable educator. Fails SIGCOV. Apart from the Bhutan award thing, all the sources are trivial and passing mentions. Possible COI. Zuck28 (talk) 03:40, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete- would agree with what Zuck28 pointed out, seems most hits even from Google news is mostly about the subject being awarded for his educational contributions, so unsure how much those weigh in making the subject notable enough. Not opposed to draftify if any SIGCOV can be found. I suspect there maybe more SIGCOV in Indian sources, interestingly no alternate language version of the subject is available.Lorraine Crane (talk) 18:35, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Grossmont–Cuyamaca Community College District (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Insufficient sources to establish notability (article has been unsourced for a decade and I can't find any substantive ones myself) ElKevbo (talk) 01:27, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
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- I respectfully oppose the deletion of this article based on Wikipedia’s notability guidelines for educational institutions. The Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District (GCCCD) meets the criteria for notability due to its substantial regional impact, historical significance, and coverage in independent, reliable sources.
- Established in 1961, GCCCD serves over 28,000 students annually across two accredited colleges: Grossmont College and Cuyamaca College.
- The district offers over 300 degree and certificate programs, including specialized and innovative fields such as drone technology, green energy, and water/wastewater management.
- GCCCD has been recognized as a top transfer institution to San Diego State University, and contributes over $1.3 billion annually to the East County economy.
- The district is regularly featured in local and regional news outlets, government reports, and educational publications that discuss its programs, leadership, and community partnerships.
- GCCCD collaborates with other institutions, including the San Diego Community College District, which has a retained Wikipedia article. While not a competitor, SDCCD serves as a comparable example of a multi-campus district with similar educational and community roles.
- Economic Impact
- A 2023 study by Lightcast found GCCCD contributes $1.3 billion annually to the San Diego County economy, supporting 13,477 jobs through alumni, operations, student, and construction spending [15] Alumni earnings alone account for $983.6 million, showing long-term regional influence
- Top Transfer Institution
- Grossmont College has been the #1 transfer school to San Diego State University (SDSU) for six consecutive years, based on SDSU enrollment data
- Innovative Academic Programs
- GCCCD offers over 300 degree and certificate programs, including standout fields like:
- Drone technology, nursing, and culinary arts at Grossmont College.
- Green energy, water/wastewater technology, and ornamental horticulture at Cuyamaca College
- GCCCD offers over 300 degree and certificate programs, including standout fields like:
- Community Recognition
- The district has received awards for bond transparency, student support initiatives, and community leadership, including recognition from California State Senator Akilah Weber
- Media Coverage
- Local outlets like East County Magazine, The Alpine Sun, and ECCalifornian have covered GCCCD’s achievements, economic impact, and student success stories
- Economic Impact
- This article is not promotional in nature and presents verifiable, neutral information about a public institution with a long-standing role in California’s higher education system. I recognize that the article entry has been dormant with little information but my position has been vacant for the bulk of that time. I am prepared to provide multiple verifiable sources but we also collate our media coverage here: GCCCD News
- I am new to editing Wikipedia and was asked to update this article by my superior to reflect the significant positive impact our district has had in East County San Diego.
- Thanks for your time. SaraatGCCCD (talk) 15:37, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- I respectfully oppose the deletion of this article based on Wikipedia’s notability guidelines for educational institutions. The Grossmont-Cuyamaca Community College District (GCCCD) meets the criteria for notability due to its substantial regional impact, historical significance, and coverage in independent, reliable sources.
- Keep - large enough for a presumption of notability, according to news reports it has an elected board. Bearian (talk) 01:00, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- What specific sources do you believe help this subject meet WP:GNG? The ones in your Google search - the same ones I looked at before making this nomination - do not appear to provide the kind of significant coverage that we need to write an article. (Which is not surprising as I would expect most news to focus on the colleges in the district and not the district itself.) ElKevbo (talk) 01:38, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- The District Office of Communications is the responsible party issuing news releases on behalf of the two colleges. SaraatGCCCD (talk) 21:30, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- What specific sources do you believe help this subject meet WP:GNG? The ones in your Google search - the same ones I looked at before making this nomination - do not appear to provide the kind of significant coverage that we need to write an article. (Which is not surprising as I would expect most news to focus on the colleges in the district and not the district itself.) ElKevbo (talk) 01:38, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Croatian Interdisciplinary Society (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not notable Chidgk1 (talk) 17:58, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Almost totally unreferenced article about a school for which notability is not shown, nor found prior to nomination. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Dorsetonian (talk) 16:05, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete The article does not meet the requirements of WP:GNG or WP:NSCHOOL. While the school appears to serve a specific educational purpose, the sources provided are not sufficient to demonstrate significant, in-depth, independent coverage in reliable secondary sources. Most of the content is primary, routine, or directory-style, which does not establish lasting encyclopedic notability. Setwardo (talk) 16:04, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
Delete without notoriety, fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:GNG 200.46.55.99 (talk) 00:14, 25 August 2025 (UTC)WP:SOCKSTRIKE. Geschichte (talk) 08:42, 25 August 2025 (UTC)- Keep: As with most high schools, this school has sufficient WP:SIGCOV in independent, secondary sources to pass WP:GNG, see here: News4, This is Reno, KOLO News (1), KOLO News (2), the Nevada Independent, and 2News. Even if they're not in the article notability is based on the availability of qualifying sources per WP:NEXIST. Looks like a failure of WP:BEFORE. (Editorially, this article should be stubified to remove the promotional tone and brochure-like copy, but deletion is not cleanup. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:27, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. None of the sources above provide significant coverage of the school itself as an organization. They do cover individual programs and activities but that isn't sufficient for our purposes. We need big picture sources directly about the school as an institution, not just about a single program or department within the school or even just a single event connected to the school (which is what some of the above examples are). We have here local coverage of the school's aviation program and a fire fighting program and a cooking class in WP:ROUTINE news cycle coverage. A cooking class doing community service by making Thanksgiving turkeys is a great human interest piece but it isn't SIGCOV of the school, and a press release on the founding of an aviation program or coverage of large donations isn't either. Because of the limited scope of the stories to individual programs and the local nature of the coverage I don't think they could be considered in-depth coverage of the main topic and would fall under WP:NOTNEWS. The types of sources we need are histories of the school or independent analysis of the work of the school. That's not really what we have here. 4meter4 (talk) 22:11, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- @4meter4, coverage of a school's programs is coverage of a school -- what is a school if not its educational program? Per WP:NSCHOOL, schools may pass the general notability guideline and are not required to meet WP:NORG. I reviewed and rejected more routine news items that appeared to be based on press releases; these appear to involve original reporting that provides WP:SIGCOV of the school to some degree. (I'm actually fairly impressed as to the depth of reporting compared to what notable schools often get.) Finally, as to your "
local nature of the coverage
" comment, GNG (unlike WP:NORG with WP:AUD) has no requirement for sources to come from beyond a single local area. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:25, 25 August 2025 (UTC) - Follow-up note: You suggest that
[t]he types of sources we need are histories of the school or independent analysis of the work of the school
but WP:SIGCOV is defined as coverage thataddresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content
. The actual guideline provides a lower bar than the one you have created here. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:35, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- @4meter4, coverage of a school's programs is coverage of a school -- what is a school if not its educational program? Per WP:NSCHOOL, schools may pass the general notability guideline and are not required to meet WP:NORG. I reviewed and rejected more routine news items that appeared to be based on press releases; these appear to involve original reporting that provides WP:SIGCOV of the school to some degree. (I'm actually fairly impressed as to the depth of reporting compared to what notable schools often get.) Finally, as to your "
- (edit conflict) I don't agree with that. We don't write about forests based on coverage of individual trees in the forest. At some point we actually need sources which talk about the forest directly or the result is WP:Original synthesis. We fundamentally can't have an article on a school without showing sources with significant coverage of the school as a whole.
"Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content."
If we were building an article specifically on the school's aviation program I see SIGCOV here. I don't see SIGCOV of the wider school in these materials.4meter4 (talk) 22:41, 25 August 2025 (UTC)- I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. However, separate from this conversation, insisting on published histories of schools or independent analyses of a school's work would impose a much higher standard than has been in place before, and I'd suggest a Village Pump conversation for that interpretation of SIGCOV rather than introducing it in an individual AfD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:49, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Dclemens1971 I don't see the need to take this elsewhere because I don't perceive this as a novel interpretation but a faithful interpretation of WP:GNG and WP:SYNTH policy. To put it simply, we need sources directly about the topic in evidence. If the topic is Harvard University the sources need to be about the university as a whole. If all we had were sources about Harvard's biology and chemistry programs we couldn't build an article about the entire university just based off of those. The same principle applies here. "Directly and in detail about Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology" means just that. There needs to be sources which address the main topic directly not just a small aspect of the main topic.4meter4 (talk) 23:03, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. However, separate from this conversation, insisting on published histories of schools or independent analyses of a school's work would impose a much higher standard than has been in place before, and I'd suggest a Village Pump conversation for that interpretation of SIGCOV rather than introducing it in an individual AfD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:49, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I don't agree with that. We don't write about forests based on coverage of individual trees in the forest. At some point we actually need sources which talk about the forest directly or the result is WP:Original synthesis. We fundamentally can't have an article on a school without showing sources with significant coverage of the school as a whole.
- Faith Theological Seminary, Manakala (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:ORG and no presence of independent sources. Thilsebatti (talk) 04:37, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
- Withdrawn by nominator.Thilsebatti (talk) 17:49, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - I don't see any independent sources. Bearian (talk) 11:36, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Delete: Poor to unreliable sources. Fails GNG.Zuck28 (talk) 01:10, 24 August 2025 (UTC)- Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV. This independent academic book published by Brill Publishers describes the school as "one of the premier theological education institutions in India" on page 100. There's also coverage in this book, published by Edinburgh University Press, and in this journal, and [this book. There's a bunch more in google books and google scholar.4meter4 (talk) 02:04, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- 4meter4, can you elaborate on how this passes SIGCOV? The first book you linked appears to have one page of coverage (on p. 180). Ross-2019 p. 151–152 has one paragraph. George-2013 is available from WP:TWL, and has one paragraph on p. S-188. I did not search books or scholar myself, but can you list two or three sources that have book or chapter-length coverage, or a journal article in which it is the main subject? From what I can see so far, there isn't significant coverage in even one independent source. Mathglot (talk) 07:58, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Sure. In this case we have encyclopedic claims about the institution in reliable source. If we have independent sources saying this is a significant school, even if it is not lengthy, those claims to my mind are strong evidence of notability. It's not the length here of the text but the actual statements about the school indicating this is an encyclopedic topic. One of the sources states it was the first Pentecostal seminary to gain university accreditation in India, and the first to offer master and doctoral level degrees, and for that reason, a large percentage of Pentecostal academics in Christian theology in India are graduates of the school. Best.4meter4 (talk) 12:25, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: I would like to withdraw this nomination based on new findings by 4meter4 as per WP:HEY . However since there is already two deletion votes, I'm leaving the closure upto the admins or any other editors in good standing. Thanks. Thilsebatti (talk) 17:52, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep in view of the multiple reliable sources identified by 4meter4 which together show that WP:GNG is passed and deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:31, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per 4meter4's sourcing. This will need an admin closure, despite the nom being convinced, as the two delete's have not revised their !votes. Jclemens (talk) 22:36, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- I would like to take back my comment. Zuck28 (talk) 22:38, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- I struck it for you. See the Help:Cheatsheet on how to strike comments. Best.4meter4 (talk) 13:34, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Maitland Secondary School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not finding any secondary coverage, so doesn't meet WP:NSCHOOL. There's an Australian school with a bit more coverage with the same name, but it doesn't appear to be notable either. Plausible ATDs: redirect to Maitland, Cape Town if a sentence is inserted there. List of secondary schools in the Western Cape appears to list only notable schools at the moment, although may be a good target if cleaned up. Suriname0 (talk) 15:19, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Where did you look for coverage? I find it surprising that there would not be any coverage of a high school that claims more than a century of history. Meters (talk) 03:06, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm... is this the Maitland High School here https://www.maitlandhighschool.com/home ? If the map included in the article is correct then they are the same, and there may be puffery about its founding going on. The school's own webpage https://www.maitlandhighschool.com/about-us says it was only formed in 1991, out of a junior high that was founded in 1979. Meters (talk) 03:15, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
Redirect to Cape Townper the norm for non-notable schools without a suitable school board article as a redirect target. The content about the early founding was added by an IP in 2021 [16], and appears to have incorrectly added (copied, actually) information about an Australian school with a similar name (Maitland High School) https://maitland-h.schools.nsw.gov.au/about-our-school/history.html. Meters (talk) 03:30, 19 August 2025 (UTC) changed redirect target per my following post. Meters (talk) 07:36, 26 August 2025 (UTC)- Redirect to Western Cape Education Department. Possibly a better redirect target would be Western Cape Education Department. Per https://wcedemis.westerncape.gov.za/wced/findaschool.html Maitland Secondary School is in the Metro Central District of the Western Cape Education Department, but Wikipedia does not have an Wikipedia article for the district. Meters (talk) 03:42, 19 August 2025 (UTC) added a formal !vote redirect to the education department. Meters (talk) 07:36, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- I support the redirect to Western Cape Education Department. Waynejayes (talk) 12:40, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm... is this the Maitland High School here https://www.maitlandhighschool.com/home ? If the map included in the article is correct then they are the same, and there may be puffery about its founding going on. The school's own webpage https://www.maitlandhighschool.com/about-us says it was only formed in 1991, out of a junior high that was founded in 1979. Meters (talk) 03:15, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Christ the King College (La Union) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NSCHOOL, for most of this article history the only source was from the school website's history page Hariboneagle927 (talk) 14:37, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: It's pretty unusual for a secondary school that's over 100 years old not to have sufficient coverage for a WP:GNG pass. I'm not seeing it myself but perhaps someone adept at sourcing/archives in the Philippines would know places to look? Perhaps coverage is available in other languages? Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:55, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- I'd be the first to say that "if you can't find English sources about a topic from the Philippines, you won't find Tagalog ones", but that's mostly on Tagalog language-speaking areas. This seems to be Ilocano language, and I'm not entirely sure if offline sources may exist and if someone wants to dig it up at some library. Some Catholic schools in the Philippines are indeed very old, so this is nothing out of the ordinary. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:59, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep or Draftify- Indeed SIGCOV or notable sources seems virtually zero at least on usual websearches, no obvious hits from Google News eiter, the closest I could scrounge up so far is this, which seems from the local government in that region. Redirecting to the founding Groups seems not sensible either given their context. Not opposed to draftify if any SIGCOV can be gathered for us to check. Lorraine Crane (talk) 04:01, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of Catholic universities and colleges in the Philippines for now. I suspect that foreign language or offline sources exist that contain WP:SIGCOV. However, until an editor with access to those sources chooses to work in this area we can't leave an article that is essentially sourced to non-independent primary materials.4meter4 (talk) 19:49, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect seems an appropriate ATD if this fails verification. It's a shame, really, as this is a nice little article on the college--just lacking sourcing. Jclemens (talk) 22:41, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
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