Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/La Paz F.C. (Colombia)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. Consensus is to keep; a merger may be proposed at WP:PM. (non-admin closure) Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:59, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

La Paz F.C. (Colombia)

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Does it really meet the criteria for notability? It's an amateur football club and there are no recent news about it. Brayan Jaimes (talk) 03:07, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Brayan Jaimes (talk) 03:07, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Football and Colombia. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:34, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to FARC sounds best given the 1E coverage in RSes. Allan Nonymous (talk) 03:59, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – There is no point in keeping an article from an amateur club just because of its connection to a drug trafficking group. Svartner (talk) 04:31, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:31, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak? keep This does have a lot of coverage in a variety of sources over a long period of time and likely passes WP:GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 05:12, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 18:52, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per SportingFlyer, there's probably enough sourcing. Giant Snowman 18:54, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Clealry notable team in Colombia. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 23:03, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Can any of the "keep" supporters identify the sources?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:15, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: per Das osmnezz, this article needs improvement, not deletion. The notable sources include The Guardian and Al Jazeera. There's enough WP:SIGCOV to meet at least WP:BASIC.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:16, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ironically, The Guardian is just a pointer, had people only looked. There's a paragraph that can serve to expand the article in Watson 2022, p. 239. There's other information, helpfully itself built from news coverage, in Wells 2022, pp. 148–149. ISBN 9781509854257 p. 121 is a glancing mention, but is the sort of source that could be used for an introduction. (Unfortunately, the Alberto Lati book that has more is not, as Ediciones Plan B is a self-publishing outfit. For goodness' sakes, Alberto!) In Boniface 2018, p. 57 is found the fact that this was three teams in one club: men's, women's, and under 20s. I didn't look much further, because then I reached Rodríguez López & Estupiñán Osorio 2022, which is over 40 pages on this subject and must be good for at least another paragraph, not least on the mixed reception to the idea. Uncle G (talk) 15:55, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Watson, Peter J. (2022). "Conclusion: #OneCountryOnAPitch". Football and Nation Building in Colombia (2010–2018): The Only Thing That Unites Us. Liverpool Latin American Studies. Liverpool University Press. pp. 225–240. doi:10.2307/j.ctv2nnv514.12. ISBN 9781802070927. JSTOR j.ctv2nnv514.12.
- Wells, Audrey (2022). "Forgiveness After Civil War: Yogislavia, Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Colombia, and South Sudan". The Importance of Forgiveness and the Futility of Revenge: Case Studies in Contemporary International Politics. Contributions to International Relations. Springer Nature. ISBN 9783030875527.
- Boniface, Pascal (2018). L'Empire Foot: Comment le ballon rond a conquis le monde (in French). Armand Colin. ISBN 9782200623135.
- Rodríguez López, Julián David; Estupiñán Osorio, Juan Diego (2022-09-19). La Paz F. C.: Un equipo que sirve como canal para la reconstrucción social en Colombia (comunicadores sociale thesis) (in Spanish). Universidad Santo Tomás. hdl:11634/47238.
I don't like the relist comment as the sources are already in the article. The problem with this particular article is the club appears to be either a Colombian non-league team, or even a non league team in the sense they aren't even in a league. I'm not sure if that would mean they have to meet NCORP as an organisation or not? Still there is plenty of coverage, even if the article itself is a wee stub. SportingFlyer T·C 22:09, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the sources on the topic, I think the article could be improved by describing the social impact it has on Colombia's peace process as the sources describe; in that case, I feel it could indeed be relevant and be an independent article. Still, I think the better option would be for it to be a section in the Colombian peace process article rather than an independent article. Brayan Jaimes (talk) 13:34, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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