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The result was keep. JohnCD (talk) 17:43, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Article attempts to define the term Runet in contravention of WP:NOTDICT, apparently because of controversy about Internet in Russia to which the Runet article is often/currently redirected. The term may possibly be suitable for Wiktionary or a footnote in Runet but it is not appropriate as an article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:25, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect to Internet in Russia, it is just exactly the same, and there is no need for a separate article.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:12, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Рунет никогда не был "Интернетом в России". Так считают скорее только российские чиновники. А рунет - скорее всего это русскоязычный Интернет и он вообще-то развивался и в Израиле, например, тоже, так что не надо, это не одно и то же. --TarzanASG (talk) 05:25, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- This article is a stub, but there is some information about this term can be borrowed from Russian Wikipedia. Runet is a term without clear definition, but it is widely used and has own long history. Runet is not Internet in Russia, because it was developed, for example, from Israel. And currently 14% of Runet is from Ukraine. Maybe it seems that Runet is Internet in Russian language, but sometimes TatNet, ChuvashTet, Bynet, Kaznet and Uanet are de facto included in term Runet and they are counted in statistics of Runet. Runet is a summation of Russian-language Internet, Ukrainian-language Internet (Yandex several years ago stated that they not devided Russian and Ukrainian news because they think that all users automaticly understand both languages), Internet in Russia, Ukaraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan and all depended languages in any country in the world. Runet is commons news and information space. Runet needs a good research, but now we can understand what is Runet from such notable sources like mass media and sociological organisations. --TarzanASG (talk) 05:25, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- These comments apply to "Runet" which is another article. That article may or may not deserve to be a redirect to Internet in Russia - but the matter does not concern us here. This AfD is about "Runet (term)" which is in addition to "Runet"; since it is purely about a (dictionary) term it has no place on Wikipedia. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:47, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- This is exactly about this article! In Wikipedia we must have 4 separate pages: 1) "Runet" (currently - Runet (disambiguation)) - disambiguation page, because nobody can exactly says what Runet means; 2) "Runet (term)" (or maybe Runet (terminology) is better according to WP:NOTDIC) - really big article about origin of term, its usage (including different meanings), cultural impact - "Runet in (popular) culture" (thousands and thousands cases, because in Russia often they say "Runet" instead "Internet"), notable quotes about "Runet", etc.; 3) "Internet in Russia" also with "state propaganda" called it as Runet; 4) "Internet in Russian" with statistics and opinion of users, that it is exactly Runet. Finally, "Runet (term)" is a stub, that has potential, which I showed. --TarzanASG (talk) 02:19, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 20:30, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 20:30, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Per Wikipedia's Five pillars, the encyclopedia also functions as an almanac. This type of information is found in almanacs. Also, importantly, the term "Runet" also applies to other aspects of the internet besides just the internet in Russia. From the article: "in 2009, a Yandex report stated that Runet can pertain to sites written in Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian and Kazakh languages, as well as sites in any language published in the national ___domain .am, .az, .by, .ge, .kg, .kz, .md, .ru, .su, .tj, .ua или uz".[1] Therefore, a redirect to the Internet in Russia article would not improve the encyclopedia and would be inaccurate, because this topic also pertains to other countries. Also, using a translation service, the article in the reference within this comment contains a very detailed analysis of the term. The term is exceedingly more complex than a simple dictionary definition.
- 1. (in Russian) Контент Рунета
- —Northamerica1000(talk) 17:34, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:21, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep its more than just a dictionary term. Dream Focus 22:20, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - The Russian Wikipedia article has 80 inline citations, and some of the sources may very well be usable for the topic here at English Wikipedia. Northamerica1000(talk) 01:54, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The Russian Wikipedia article is an original synthesis, and the online citations mostly just verify facts in separate sentences, but do not represent any coherent picture.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:46, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep the ruWP article is a good explanation, and an excellent history of the concept, with good sources.I'm not entirely sure we shouldn't translate it as Russian internet, but it's a suitable article. DGG ( talk ) 08:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, I'm seeing significant coverage of this subject matter in secondary sources, notably, books. — Cirt (talk) 14:59, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- ^ (in Russian) Контент Рунета