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Russia

Vadim Chernobrov

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Article is on a deceased Russian UFO fan who discovered (...) time travel. All sources are non-RS (e.g. Pravda). A standard WP:BEFORE finds numerous mentions in UFO blogs, the Daily Mail, etc., but not much else. There is nothing further in the six translations of this article on parallel wikis. Fails WP:GNG. Chetsford (talk) 17:24, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to group he founded. — Very Polite Person (talk/contribs) 20:09, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, that's probably a better idea. I have no objection. Chetsford (talk) 20:39, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: In the interest of completeness, I am presuming that the proposed alternative to deletion here is a redirect to Kosmopoisk. (I note this for the record; I have no opinion on that or the article in general.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:09, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your thoroughness. I believe you're correct. Chetsford (talk) 03:05, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Veniamin Smekhov

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Written in unencylopedic tone, barely sourced Sushidude21! (talk) 13:53, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify- As is, it seems little more than a cv or resume. However, the subject does seem adequately notable. Perhaps it needs to incubate as a draft until it can be brought to a better state. Littenberg (talk) 21:18, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Natalia Nagovitsina

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I can't find any significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. Everything is linked to his death and disappearance PadoqueYT33 (talk) 23:25, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2025 August 29. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 00:12, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete No sustained significant coverage beyond WP:SINGLEEVENT. --Altenmann >talk 14:54, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTNEWS, WP:NEVENT, and WP:SINGLEEVENT. All of the sources are from recent news coverage of one tragic but not all that unusual event. No evidence that this will have longterm significance/notability.4meter4 (talk) 04:22, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yevgeny Kislyakov

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Non notable article couldnt find any sources. Redirect to Russia or some other country at 1992 Summer Olympics. 8bit12man (talk) 02:43, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Unified Team at the 1992 Summer Olympics#Rowing, where his name is mentioned. I noticed Russia was known as "Unified Team" at that time along with other countries of Former Soviet Union. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:54, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Unified Team at the 1992 Summer Olympics#Rowing – Per Clara. Svartner (talk) 21:54, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Unified Team at the 1992 Summer Olympics#Rowing as though the subject fails WP:BASICSPORT, but I always prefer to have a good redirect as the best WP:ATD. Iljhgtn (talk) 06:17, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

===Sergei Makhlai===

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References 2, 3, 4 and 6 are poor sourcing for a BLP, and read like biased viewpoint pieces. With those sources removed, and excluding the ones marked failed verification and dead, only two references remain. One of those is an interview. I don't think that's enough to establish notability. I have had a look for more but couldn't find any. Red Fiona (talk) 16:42, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Ru wiki has enough coverage of him, including his tenure with TogliattiAzot and criminal case against him. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 17:10, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV (see Ru wiki). Source two is a piece from Moskovskij Komsomolets. I wouldn't call it poor sourcing although it has a point of view that some may disagree with. It is significant coverage of Makhlai. Source three is from the Russian electronic newspaper Vek (wek.ru). Seems reliable based on this description of their editorial staff: https://wek.ru/info.html It makes some rather serious accusations though and I could see how it would give someone pause. Source four is reliable and its from Vedomosti. It doesn't have much to say about Makhlai though and isn't significant coverage of him as it is about changes of the board at Togliattiazot JSC. Source six is from Rossiyskaya Gazeta. Seems reliable but again slanted in a certain POV. I get where the nominator is coming from. The sources definitely have a POV with a position but they are mainstream Russian media sources. On balance, this is a figure covered in Russian media repeatedly in a non trivial way. He's a controversial figure and the media coverage reflects that. The persistence of the coverage indicates notability (see the number of sources in the RU article). We can't control the Russian media but we can control our own reporting by following our NPOV guidelines. I suggest looking at the many other articles used in the Russian wikipedia entry with an eye towards NPOV reporting. The issues here are surmountable.4meter4 (talk) 19:00, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think we're mostly in agreement. The problem is that the sources all sound biased (with the caveat I was having to use Google translate to translate, which is also going to be a problem with using sources from wiki.ru) in the way they position everything. Red Fiona (talk) 21:41, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, asking for advice, if I do a references check, is it best to report back here, or on the article talk page? Red Fiona (talk) 18:58, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redfiona99, depends on whether this discussion is ongoing. Now, I think it's fitting to discuss NPOV- related issues here. You also have an option to withdraw the nomination, in which case the talk page discussion would be more fitting. As I'm familiar with Russian, I can help with translation/copy-editing. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 05:57, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry if this is the wrong place to put them. Putting them into groups, with the caveat that I’m having to use an online translator, and apologies

Solid and what they support:

Ref 1 – Supports that he was elected chairman of Togliattiazot.

Ref 2 – Covers his background. Seems general and bland. Not sure whether it’s just press release washing or not.

Ref 11 - Supports that he was re-elected chairman of Togliattiazot.

Ref 12 – Supports him stepping down from the board of directors of Togliattiazot.

Ref 33 – mentions Sergei Makhlai and the court case against Togliattiazot’s management

Ref 34 - mentions Sergei Makhlai and the court case against Togliattiazot’s management

Ref 35 - mentions Sergei Makhlai and the court case against Togliattiazot’s management

Ref 36 - mentions Sergei Makhlai and the court case against Togliattiazot’s management

Ref 37 - mentions Sergei Makhlai and the court case against Togliattiazot’s management

Ref 40 - mentions Sergei Makhlai and the court case against Togliattiazot’s management

Ref 41 - mentions Sergei Makhlai and thanks him and Togliattiazot for sponsoring a FIDE event.

Ref 42 – mentions Sergei Makhlai and him receiving an award from the Patriarch of Russia

Not sure:

Ref 6 – does not mention Sergei Makhlai

Ref 7 – mentions Sergei Makhlai but in the context of his wife

Ref 15 – Interview with Sergei Makhlai so not sure how independent it is

Ref 16 – Interview with Makhlai’s father which mentions him in part. Not sure how much weight we can put on an interview that starts by equating the interviewee with King Lear.

Ref 29 - Interview with Sergei Makhlai so not sure how independent it is

Ref 30 - Interview with Sergei Makhlai so not sure how independent it is

Ref 31 - Interview with Sergei Makhlai so not sure how independent it is

Weak/poor/biased/unsuitable:

Ref 3 – also used on en.wiki page. One of the ones that sounds more like an opinion than an article.

Ref 4 – also used on en.wiki page. One of the ones that sounds more like an opinion than an article.

Ref 5 – also used on en.wiki page. One of the ones that sounds more like an opinion than an article.

Ref 8 – does not mention Sergei Makhlai

Ref 9 – does not mention Sergei Makhlai

Ref 10 – does not mention Sergei Makhlai

Ref 13 – does not mention Sergei Makhlai

Ref 14 – 404 error

Ref 17 – goes to the same link as 15

Ref 18 – does not mention Sergei Makhlai (report on health and safety infractions in one of Togliattiazot’s plants)

Ref 19 – Throws up an invalid request page. Is a district court report so would be primary.

Ref 20 – Throws up an invalid request page. Is a district court report so would be primary.

Ref 21 – does not mention Sergei Makhlai, talks about safety at Togliattiazot’s plants

Ref 22 – Throws up an invalid request page. Is a district court report so would be primary.

Ref 23 – Throws up an invalid request page. Is a district court report so would be primary.

Ref 24 – does not mention Sergei Makhlai, talks about safety at Togliattiazot’s plants

Ref 25 – Is about Makhlai’s father, doesn’t mention Sergei Makhlai

Ref 26 – Interview with Vyacheslav Suslov, doesn’t mention Sergei Makhlai, talks about Togliattiazot’s plants

Ref 27 – Redirects to the newspaper’s main page

Ref 28 – is about Togliattiazot and Pussy Riot, doesn’t mention Sergei Makhlai

Ref 32 – does not mention Sergei Makhlai, is about tax cases and Togliattiazot

Ref 38 - mentions Sergei Makhlai and the court case against Togliattiazot’s management but does it in a very biased way, and I would suggest discarding this for an en.wiki article

Ref 39 - mentions Sergei Makhlai and the court case against Togliattiazot’s management but does it in a very biased way, and I would suggest discarding this for an en.wiki article

Summary:

There are some solid references, however noting @antiqueight's point, most of the references are more about Togliattiazot than him. Is it worth merging this article into Togliattiazot? (Also has anyone raised Rossiyskaya Gazeta at RSN?) Red Fiona (talk) 14:21, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete.In English it's hard (I haven't found anyway) to find any reference about him which isn't really about The Togliattiazot affair. Is he cited for anything else that would make him notable? Based on Wikipedia:Notability (people) 'A person who is known only in connection with a criminal event or trial should not normally be the subject of a separate Wikipedia article if there is an existing article that could incorporate the available encyclopedic material relating to that person.' -> WP:SINGLEEVENT. Considering the slanted POV discussed it might be better to clean up the page about the affair but delete the page about the man. ☕ Antiqueight ^chatter 18:39, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I really can't see how this person meets the 'notability' test? The Career section, for instance, only has one sentence that's actually about his career - and only six years of it; the other three sentences are purely about the company he worked for (which has its own article), not about him. Mirandafyfe (talk) 16:46, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Daria Kudashova

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Disputed PROD by the article creator quoting Tennis Project guidelines which do not supercede GNG. This tennis player has a best singles rankings of 362 and doubles of 833. She has never played a Grand Slam, WTA Tour or Billie Jean King Cup match. All the sources provided are routine database stuff as is the sparse amount I can find about her through a before search. In summation this article fails GNG and SIGCOV. Anxioustoavoid (talk) 23:29, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Ambush in Assa Gorge

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Does not meet GNG as no information when searched on google and relies on a single source which is a primary source Uncle Bash007 (talk) 22:28, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep. It has one source it is true, but that source is most definitely not a primary source. It's from a history book in Russian published by a reliable publisher more than 60 years after the event whose title when translated to English is Classic and Anti-colonial Struggle of the Chechen-Ingush Christians in the 19th–20th Centuries. In looking Gritsenko has a decent publishing record so I would say this a reliable secondary source from a respected Russian academic. No opinion as to notability as this is a topic most likely only covered in foreign language sources. Finding materials would likely require an editor intimate with Russian or Chechen language historical publications and resources. That isn't me. Given the nominator's poor judgment on sourcing I am inclined to keep this.4meter4 (talk) 15:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Left guide (talk) 22:05, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify- though I have not been able to find SIGCOV for this topic in particular so far, if what 4meter4 claim about the lone citation be true, I would suggest Draftify as ATD to improve article more and add more citations to build more notability.Lorraine Crane (talk) 21:32, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - 1 source is simply not enough given the exceptional claims found in this article. Excelse (talk) 13:38, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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