Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Senad Hadzic

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The result was delete‎. BLP1E applies Spartaz ^Humbug! 18:26, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Senad Hadzic

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A Bosnian man walked to Mecca to perform Hajj. That is the only claim to notability in this article, which fails WP:GNG and I'm invoking WP:1E right here. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:05, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Bosnia and Herzegovina. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:05, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete per WP:1E. I see there's coverage from BBC, The Independent, Al Arabiya, etc., but the claim "first person in the world to have walked from Europe to Mecca, Saudi Arabia, to perform the hajj pilgrimage" doesn't appear in any of the sources, including The Times of India which the article used to back up this claim. APK whisper in my ear 09:21, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Academics and educators and Islam. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:41, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and consider a move if a better article name is found (Hajj from Bosnia on foot isn't great but might work) (or merge if a target is found). This event seems to meet GNG [1][2][3]. The event itself seems to have crossed the WP:PERSISTENCE threshold with publications ranging from when it occurred to 2014 and 2019 above. Now, if the event meets GNG, we should not delete. Please note that the guideline WP:1E is not meant for removing information from Wikipedia outright, but rather to decide if the individual, or event, or both merit an article. From WP:1E - When an individual is significant for their role in a single event, it may be unclear whether an article should be written about the individual, the event or both... In some cases, however, a person famous for only one event may be more widely known than the event itself... In such cases, the article about the event may be most appropriately named for the person involved.. So keeping under the current name is preferable to deleting. Moving avoids more potential BLP issues as well, so I lean toward that. —siro χ o 10:49, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I would read WP:1E in conjunction with WP:PSEUDO which, helpfully, covers this particular case, "If the event itself is not notable enough for an article, and the person was noted only in connection with it, it's very likely that there is no reason to cover that person at all." By the way, it is worth noting this is NOT an unusual event by any means - lots of people have walked from somewhere distant to Mecca for Hajj... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 11:46, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as a WP:BLP1E. SportingFlyer T·C 13:19, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That! WP:BLP1E! That's the guideline I was looking for! Cheers! Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:28, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. It's a pretty clear one, too. A smattering of public interest story articles in major publications and then nothing else. SportingFlyer T·C 17:54, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This may indeed be BLP1E, but the event does seem notable by GNG (see my above comment), so move seems like a good alternative to deletion. (I'd be supportive of a merge if a reasonable target exists as well.) —siro χ o 19:15, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Single event, low profile individual, event was not significant. Easily passes BLP1E, which trumps GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 21:07, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I'm not familiar enough with the event itself. The coverage seems to demonstrate that the event was considered notable. But per BLP1E, I will change my !vote from a keep or move to a move or merge. —siro χ o 01:56, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Heya, siro. On notability, if you see the links I share above, a lot of people walk to Hajj from various places over long distances... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:17, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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