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edit- Tariq Masood (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article has already been deleted twice, once in 2023 and again in 2024. Looking at the current version, it reads less like a Wikipedia article and more like a résumé written in a promotional tone. As for the references, the majority come from WP:NEWSORGINDIA, which are largely routine coverage. The subject seems to appear in the news from time to time mainly due to controversies, which again amounts to routine coverage. I don’t think the subject passes WP:GNG or WP:NAUTHOR in any way. Mehar R. Khan (talk) 13:32, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
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* Keep (as the creator of this article) – I respectfully disagree with the deletion nomination. The subject meets WP:GNG because there is clear evidence of significant, independent coverage in multiple reliable sources across different regions and languages. In Pakistan, outlets such as Dawn have covered Tariq Masood’s role in national debates including his participation in anti-extremism seminars and opposition to domestic legislation, while The Express Tribune reported on his participation in major religious conferences. In India, mainstream newspapers including The Print, The Economic Times, Navbharat Times and Rajasthan Patrika have all reported on him, particularly in the context of blasphemy debates, public threats, and controversies. In Bangladesh, media such as Somoy News, Kaler Kantho, Dhaka Today, Dhaka Post, and Naya Diganta gave extensive coverage to his 2025 tour, including addresses at leading universities and mass gatherings, with multiple outlets analysing the reasons for his popularity among youth. In addition, his presence is documented in academic work: a 2024 German-language study on antisemitism in social media lists him among Pakistani clerics whose Urdu sermons contained hostile rhetoric towards Jews and Zionism,[1] while a 2023 peer-reviewed chapter on Islamic preaching analyses his use of social media as part of wider trends in South Asian religious discourse.[2]
The range of sourcing—spanning Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, and Germany—demonstrates coverage that is neither routine nor trivial, but substantial and sustained over time. It includes reporting on his educational background, international preaching, controversies, and his role in social debates. This satisfies WP:GNG as well as WP:AUTHOR, since coverage exists in both news media and academic literature. The article draft may have contained promotional tone, but this is a matter for neutral copy-editing and trimming under WP:NPOV, not a reason for deletion. Given the breadth and independence of sources, the subject clearly meets Wikipedia’s notability standards and the article should therefore be kept. Khaatir (talk) 14:05, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ Hübscher, Monika; Mering, Sabine von (2024-06-17). Antisemitismus in den Sozialen Medien [Antisemitism in Social Media] (in German). Verlag Barbara Budrich. p. 168. ISBN 978-3-8474-1950-1.
- ^ Sajjad, Mohammad Waqas (2023-12-18), Akca, Ayşe Almıla; Feise-Nasr, Mona; Stenske, Leonie; Süer, Aydın (eds.), "Mufti Tariq Masood and the Performance of Religious Speech: Social Media and Religious Discourses in Pakistan", Practices of Islamic Preaching: Text, Performativity, and Materiality of Islamic Religious Speech, De Gruyter, pp. 237–256, doi:10.1515/9783110788334-012, ISBN 978-3-11-078833-4, retrieved 2025-08-18
- Keep (as the page creator) – Subject is covered in multiple independent reliable sources, including Dawn, The Express Tribune, ThePrint (India), De Gruyter (academic), and JSTOR. The article has been rewritten in a neutral tone with strong citations addressing past concerns. Khaatir (talk) 15:38, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment – The current version has been substantially revised: promotional tone trimmed, unreliable/WP:NEWSORGINDIA-type citations removed, and replaced with stronger sourcing. It now cites mainstream outlets like Dawn, The Express Tribune, ThePrint, ABP and Navbharat Times, along with peer-reviewed academic studies (JSTOR 2022, De Gruyter 2023, Univ. of Chitral 2024, German monograph 2024). These provide independent, significant coverage across Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, and Europe. Thus, the article now addresses past AfD concerns on sourcing and neutrality, and demonstrates notability per WP:GNG. Khaatir (talk) 02:21, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Procedural note: Some comments misstate the deletion history. The article has indeed been deleted several times in the past, but not always through AfD. It was speedily deleted under A7 and G12, and once via PROD, in 2020 and again in 2024. Those are not AfD outcomes. There has only been one prior AfD, in October 2023, which closed as delete (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tariq Masood). The present discussion is therefore the second AfD nomination, not “round three.” Khaatir (talk) 14:02, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: I have looked at the references in the article, and I agree with the nominator that most of them are from WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The article has also been deleted multiple times in the past due to notability concerns. Beyond that, there is nothing in-depth about the subject. I don’t think the subject passes even WP:BASIC. Some of the sources used in the article, such as Times Now, Bol News, Somoy News, and Express News, are completely non-reliable. Their inclusion in the article only serves to mislead other editors or waste their time.
One more point to other editors and closing admins: the editor who posted the keep comment above is the article’s original creator.
Baqi:) (talk) 14:29, 24 August 2025 (UTC) - Delete and Salt. Fails WP:GNG. The sources are not clearly independent per WP:NEWSORGINDIA. WP:SALT because this is now round three at AFD.4meter4 (talk) 19:17, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Non-notable individual, he got some media coverage for his viral clips on social media, and a blasphemy controversy. But most of this coverage is WP:NEWSORGINDIA and not WP:SIGCOV. Subject is evidently not passing the criteria mentioned in Wp:GNG. Also SALT is applicable as per the fellow editor, 4meter4. Zuck28 (talk) 11:04, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NEWSORGINDIA and BLPSOURCES. —Fortuna, imperatrix 14:26, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep There seem to be a lot of confusions around the sources utilises in this article. For the sake of notability, I believe this article is a clear pass. We have Mufti Tariq Masood and the Performance of Religious Speech: Social Media and Religious Discourses in Pakistan in De Gruyter's Practices of Islamic Preaching: Text, Performativity, and Materiality of Islamic Religious Speech, a detailed 20 page academic article on Tariq Masood. We have more than a paragraph on Page 266 of The History of the Epithet al-Ghawth al-A'ẓam in South Asian Islamic Discourse, and also that we have A Pragmatic Analysis of Pakistani Religious Podcast (Mufti Tariq Masood), as a very important academic resource that discusses Tariq Masood from a linguistic prism. Given that these are my three best picks, the rest of the coverage in Dawn, ThePrint and the rest of the sources is a good supplement. The subject meets WP:GNG. Regards, Aafi (talk) 17:28, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Please note, Khaatir (the article creator) and Aafi are connected with the same Wikimedia community. It is possible that WP:MEATPUPPETRY is involved here, so this should also be taken into consideration. Mehru13 (talk) 18:07, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- That's a weird speculation. My interests are way different than that of Khaatir (even though they might voluntarily belong to a certain Wikimedia community, this doesn't inherently establish meatpuppetry). Would you want to refute the argument that I presented for establishing notability? Apart from this, I really don't have anything to say. Regards, Aafi (talk) 18:26, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Nadia Ali (actress) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The 2017 AfD was snowed in favor of retaining the article. I believe this was incorrect. The subject fails ANYBIO. The subject has not received a well known honor nor has the person made a widely recognized contribution to the field. The claim to fame is basically “Muslim adult performer.” This performer post-dates Mia Khalifa’s hijab scene, so Nadia Ali is not any sort of “first,” in the field. Even if she were, what exactly is her contribution here? There were remarks in the first AfD that she was threatened and it got coverage. A woman was threatened online? Hardly a man bites dog situation. If one wants to argue ANYBIO, how was adult entertainment changed by her brief time in the industry? It was not. Even then, ANYBIO (which I maintain she does not meet) is merely a likelihood, not a guarantee. There is substantial overlap between ANYBIO and WP:ENT, so this might be a little redundant, BUT she did not star in many adult films and as I mention in why I believe the subject fails ANYBIO, her short-lived career did not have a unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. Even the sources themselves state she did a small number of scenes. WP:EVENT would not consider her notable for any of the scenes had they gone viral.
The other argument is WP:GNG. The sourcing in the article is such: There are two Daily Beast interviews and a quote of her all written by the same author (an actual notable performer). For the purposes of GNG, this would be a single source only if those interviews are considered sufficiently independent of the subject. The other sources are also interviews and press releases.
In the first AfD, someone listed a bunch of sources as a rebuttal. The problem is some run afoul of WP:NEWSORGINDIA and the repetitive natures of those that don’t run afoul make me question the intellectual independence and if such a list was confusing existence with notability. Mpen320 (talk) 00:48, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: https://www.thetimes.com/culture/tv-radio/article/actress-threatened-after-hijabi-porn-is-unveiled-907jtv92n6p and other articles including interviews seem to show she is notable indeed.
Redirect to Pornography in Pakistan, if not enough.[Edited-Forget this stupid redirect idea, please]- E. Ux 14:19, 22 August 2025 (UTC) - Keep: per above. Zakaria ښه راغلاست (talk) 19:58, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. This subject meets WP:N and there are multiple references discussing her, including The New York Times, Daily Pakistan, and more.[1][2][3] Centralknights (talk) 15:29, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- The NYT article is an op-ed, the India Today article was provided by AtMigration (which, I believe, supplies articles to multiple websites), the Daily Pakistan article isn’t bylined and The Times article is inaccessible. How does this meet WP:N? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 08:49, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- There is also Jansatta and The Daily Beast.[4][5] Centralknights (talk) 16:18, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- The Jansatta article isn’t bylined and the Daily Beast piece is just an interview, with no consensus on its reliability. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 04:29, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- There is also Jansatta and The Daily Beast.[4][5] Centralknights (talk) 16:18, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Persian revolts against Ali (656-661) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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fails WP:NOR and WP:GNG and possibly AI generated Iranian112 (talk) 20:17, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: The revolts are well sourced from various relevant sources like Al-Tabari and Cambridge maybe the wordings be changed but telling it directly Artificially generated is incorrect, however the citations provided are reliable.
- Delete: Support per nom. R3YBOl (🌲) 19:04, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Expand The revolts were an important part of early islamic history as well as of Iran. The article be expanded which will include the revolts which broke out after the collapse of the Sasanian Empire during the reign of Caliph Uthman and hence includes all the revolts against the Rashidun Caliphate. The title be changed as " Persian Revolts against the Rashidun Caliphate " however the article name can be negotiated later onwards.
- Legion of Liberty (talk) 12:47, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Muhammad Muslehuddin Siddiqui (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I did a simple Google search on this person and only found a few fan-promoted websites. The article cites nine references: sources 1 and 7 are unreliable, user-generated fandom sites; 8 and 9 are death notices about someone else, with no direct relevance; and 5 and 6 are not references at all. The only primary source (Ahmad Noori) is used twice, but it is also unverifiable. No secondary sources are present to demonstrate the significance of this person as a religious figure per Wikipedia guidelines. Fails WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Delete.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 08:17, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: The nomination's rationale is flawed. A simple Google search does not determine notability, especially for a historically significant figure like Muhammad Muslehuddin Siddiqui, a prominent Barelvi scholar and Sufi in India and Pakistan.
- Multiple reliable secondary sources, including scholarly Islamic websites and books, document his influence as a qari, preacher, and founder of Madrasa Anwar-ul-Islam. His authored works, like Samajiyaat, further establish notability under WP:AUTHOR.
- Sources 1 and 7 are not user-generated but reputable Islamic platforms; 8 and 9 are mischaracterized, as they provide context on his Barelvi contributions. Siddiqui’s cultural and religious impact in Sufism meets WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Zuck28 (talk) 14:07, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Zuck28: Do you have any idea what secondary sources are? If you do, please share at least one. The number 1 source is https://www.thesunniway.com and number 7 is https://alahazrat.net . How did you reach the conclusion that these are reputable historical websites? What is their editorial methodology? Their very names suggest that they are fandom-style blogs run by specific groups. According to WP:SELFSOURCE and WP:USERGENERATED, such fansites are generally not acceptable as sources. The only unverifiable primary source is (Ahmad Noori). According to WP:PSTS, Secondary or tertiary sources are needed to establish the topic's notability and avoid novel interpretations of primary sources. All analyses and interpretive or synthetic claims about primary sources must be referenced to a secondary or tertiary source and must not be an original analysis of the primary-source material by Wikipedia editors. So, in that case, we have no secondary scholarly sources to verify the topic's notability.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 17:23, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep: I have found a few sources that we can consider. Since this is not a BLP, I think we can allow for a bit more flexibility here. A detailed biography of the subject is available in the book Anwār-e-‘Ulamā-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat, Sindh (pp. 862–865). Another biography has been written by Shah Turab-ul-Haq, which can be accessed here. There is also an article about the subject on Scholar.pk. In addition, we can, in good faith, assume that there are further references available under WP:OFFLINE. Baqi:) (talk) 20:33, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
WeakKeep per Baqi. I would trust Anwaar Ulama-e-Ahle Sunnat and also that Tazkira-e-Qari Muslehuddin seems academic resource as a whole about the subject. Also that there seems an impact of the subject beyond religious scholarship. We have always had the challenges of WP:SYSTEMICBIAS, and I such I believe we can have this article. Even though it needs a good revamp but AfD is not cleanup. Regards, Aafi (talk) 18:34, 26 August 2025 (UTC)- Additionally, I believe this academic thesis (MPhil) makes me shift to keep :) Regards, Aafi (talk) 18:36, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Muttum Viliyum (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not notable with single source. Dirty Dolphish (talk) 15:11, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep:The subject is a dying traditional Muslim orchestral art form of Kerala with clear cultural and historical significance. Agree to the fact there are lack of reliable online sources. But offline resources such as publications from the Kerala Folklore Academy, Kerala Sangeetha Nataka Akademi, and works by scholars like M. V. Vishnu Namboothiri further document and study such regional folk tradition. I cannot provide any links for that here since it is only available offline. Meets GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 18:52, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - I could find no Malayam Wikipedia article for what Google Translate says are the Malayam translations of "Muttum Viliyum" (ml:മുട്ടും വിളിയും) and its alternate name, "Cheenimuttu" (ml:ചീനിമുട്ട്). That Wikipedia has 87,169 articles so I would have expected to find something if this art is very notable (and if I was searching the Malayam Wikipedia correctly). --A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 00:13, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: The nominator has since been blocked as a sock. No opinion on the article. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:39, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 17:44, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Abdul Karim Ahmad (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is a recreation of a deleted article that was previously removed through the AfD process. I initially tried G4, but another editor blocked its use. The creator of this article is currently under SPI, and if confirmed, the article can be speedily deleted under G5. The subject itself fails GNG and WP:NPOL. Ckfasdf (talk) 15:54, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: The article claims he was a member of the national House of Representatives, but the associated news article suggests instead he was a member of the
Regional People's Representative Council
. As Indonesia was no longer a federal state in the period he served, holding the equivalent of a provincial councillor position would not seem to meet WP:NPOL. Curbon7 (talk) 03:59, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- @Curbon7: Yes, and that was also one of the reasons cited for deletion in the previous AfD. Ckfasdf (talk) 05:25, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, fails SIGCOV and not every members of Indonesian National House of Representatives are met GNG. 🅷🅴🅽🆁🅸 (Let's talk) ✉ 07:30, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: I can't view the sole source since my network is blocking it as a malicious link, but based on the previous discussion this individual was not in fact a national legislator in Indonesia and thus would not pass WP:NPOL. I can't find any other source that would corroborate the claim that got this version of the article through AfC. SALT due to repeated creation. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:48, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Craposyncrasies (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Notability not established ("reception" appears to be just random bloggers and even a Facebook post!) and reads like an advertisement. M.A.Spinn (talk) 03:10, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Passes WP:NBOOK and WP:GNG. Was a WP:BEFORE done? The book was reviewed in this English language journal [6] There are also several newspaper reviews in the mainstream foreign press given in the foreign language wikipedia article. There's clearly enough independent coverage to meet our notability guidelines.4meter4 (talk) 01:43, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Keep. Per above review mentions. — Maile (talk) 17:38, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- All Ceylon Islamic United Front (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No cite yet given for the claim that it was represented in parliament before the July 1960 election so might not be notable Chidgk1 (talk) 16:32, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete Likely existed but not notable enough. Agletarang (talk) 08:54, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, as explained when de-prodding, the party was represented in the national parliament. --Soman (talk) 11:30, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Keep, have provided evidence to show WP:SIGCOV. Will look at rewriting, when time permits, to highlight its significance to the national politics. Dan arndt (talk) 04:00, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Redirect to M. S. Kariapper. Apparently he formed ACIUF sometime between March and July 1960 elections, ran on July election unsuccessfully, and then was convicted for corruption in the same year, later in 1965 running already as independent. All in all, ACIUF appears to have been a single election project that failed to take off, and is not really independently notable.--Staberinde (talk) 17:02, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:HEY. Sources demonstrating WP:SIGCOV were added by Dan arndt.4meter4 (talk) 19:24, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
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