Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yakov Kazyansky (3rd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. A 4th AFD might be avoided if some of those sources the editors arguing for a Keep were added to the article. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:10, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yakov Kazyansky

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Last AfD was no consensus due to low participation. 1st AfD a weak keep with low participation in 2008, when standards were lower. I couldn't establish that he meets WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG, or a good WP:ATD. It has been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve it one way or the other. Boleyn (talk) 15:51, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians, and Russia. Shaws username . talk . 17:55, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:52, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Isn't it too soon for a re-nomination? Within only 1 day? Tehonk (talk) 09:38, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The closure was marked as WP:NPASR. With less articles at AfD right now, hopefully there will be enough editors to look at it and come to a consensus now. Boleyn (talk) 11:29, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh OK I see. I'll try to take a look, although the language barrier will probably make it hard. Tehonk (talk) 11:36, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't feel like fewer articles at AFD right now, I still see hundreds if not a thousand+. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:19, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Liz is right: With less articles at AfD right now, how? compared to when? And how is this an argument in favour of (very) speedy renomination of this page? Procedural keep. Sources were presented at the first Afd and the 2nd one. And have not been added to the page. If the nominator is really concerned about the notability of the subject, she should in my view review those sources, or have them reviewed by an expert or at the projects. Renominating pages without taking presented sources into account is really not a good thing, I think. Also, pinging the contributors to the last Afds would have been a good idea. The fact that the 2nd Afd is presented only as no consensus due to low participation. without even mentioning the numerous sources presented by User:Ostalgia is misleading. Pinging @Explicit, OlenWhitaker, Davewild, CaliforniaAliBaba, Alex Bakharev@CAPTAIN RAJU and Ozgod:-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:21, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will admit to having been a bit puzzled by the insta-relisting. My keep vote was not particularly strong but I also would have appreciated some reference to the sources. I have not had much time of late but I could provide some commentary on them if necessary. Similarly, if there is consensus to keep I could try to flesh out the article myself over time. Cheers. Ostalgia (talk) 12:36, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting, I'm sorry but I see no Keep vote or sources from Ostalgia.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 09:01, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources from Ostalgia are in the 2nd Afd talk. Maybe you have checked the first only? (This is the 3d Afd.....) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:52, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Mushy Yank, I was looking for them in this discussion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:06, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*Keep as well as the sources identified by Ostalgia in the second AfD there is also coverage at AllMusic with a staff written bio here and two staff album reviews here and here, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:47, 7 March 2024 (UTC) striking comment as it was the wrong Russian pianist, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:35, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Atlantic, the sources you linked are for a different individual, pianist Yakov Kasman. Cheers. Ostalgia (talk) 09:06, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 21:35, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: One more chance, in hopes of avoiding a no consensus result.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 03:36, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep based on the multiple sources in Russian identified by Ostalgia in the second AfD linked at the top right of this discussion that incllude several newspaper articles and together show a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 19:32, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Ostalgia's research in the second AfD, looks somewhat enough.Tehonk (talk) 04:50, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per all above. Svartner (talk) 05:21, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep after reading second AfD nomination; sources do establish notability. Toadette ^{(Let's discuss together!)} 21:58, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.