Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zuhrah ibn Kilab

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The result was keep. — Cirt (talk) 15:40, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Zuhrah ibn Kilab

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Islamic figure. Can find no evidence subject meets GNG. Christopher Connor (talk) 20:55, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. — Red Baboon (talk) 21:47, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Notability is not inherited. I have not found any sources discussing the subject. Edward321 (talk) 13:29, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There are more than 180 hits at Google Books for Zuhrah ibn Kilab or Zuhrah bin Kilab, who appears to be the patriarch of a major tribe as well as a direct ancestor of Muhammad. Searching for a transliterated name in English tends to under-represent the actual sources so there are undoubtedly more. Let's beware of WP:Systemic bias. The article needs expansion (right now it mostly talks about who he is related to) but he is clearly a notable person in the Islamic tradition. --MelanieN (talk) 16:00, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Most of those GBooks hits are false hits, they mention descendants of Zuhrah ibn Kilab. The few exceptions only note that he existed. If sources that actually discuss Zuhrah ibn Kilab are found, I would be happy to change my !vote. Edward321 (talk) 04:34, 14 August 2011 (UTC):Note: This debate has been included in the list of Islam-related deletion discussions. —MelanieN (talk) 16:25, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 21:45, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: He was the progenitor of the Banu Zuhrah clan and also the great-grandfather of Muhammad's mother. Al-Andalusi (talk) 01:57, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 03:01, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article is referenced to a work by ancient writer Ibn Hisham and works by modern scholars Martin Lings and Karen Armstrong. Improve through normal editing rather than delete. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:00, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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