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Please do not nominate your user page (or subpages of it) for deletion here. Instead, add {{db-userreq}} at the top of any such page you no longer wish to keep; an administrator will then delete the page for you. See Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion § G7 for more information.

Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days; then they are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus as evident from the discussion, consistent with policy, and with careful judgment of the rough consensus if required.

Filtered versions of the page are available at

Information on the process

What may be nominated for deletion here:

Pages not covered by other XFD venues, including pages in these namespaces: Draft:, Help:, Portal:, MediaWiki:, Wikipedia: (including WikiProjects), User:, TimedText:, MOS:,^[a] Event: and the various Talk: namespaces
Userboxes, regardless of the namespace
File description pages when the file itself is hosted on Commons
Any other page, that is not in article space, where there is dispute as to the correct XFD venue.

Requests to undelete pages deleted after discussion here, and debate whether discussions here have been properly closed, both take place at Wikipedia:Deletion review, in accordance with Wikipedia's undeletion policy.

Notes

^ The vast majority of pages in the MOS: namespace are redirects, which should be discussed at RfD. MfD is only applicable for the handful of its non-redirect pages.

Before nominating a page for deletion

Before nominating a page for deletion, please consider these guidelines:

Deleting pages in your own userspace	If you want to have your own userpage or a draft you created deleted, there is no need to list it here; simply tag it with {{db-userreq}} or {{db-u1}} if it is a userpage, or {{db-author}} or {{db-g7}} if it is a draft. If you wish to clear your user talk page or sandbox, just blank it.
Duplications in draftspace?	Duplications in draftspace are usually satisfactorily fixed by redirection. If the material is in mainspace, redirect the draft to the article, or a section of the article. If multiple draft pages on the same topic have been created, tag them for merging. See WP:SRE.
Deleting pages in other people's userspace	Consider explaining your concerns on the user's talk page with a personal note or by adding `{{subst:Uw-userpage}} ~~~~` to their talk page. This step assumes good faith and civility; often the user is simply unaware of the guidelines, and the page can either be fixed or speedily deleted using {{db-userreq}}. Take care not to bite newcomers – sometimes using the {{subst:welcome}} or {{subst:welcomeg}} template and a pointer to WP:UP would be best first. Problematic userspace material is often addressed by the User pages guidelines including in some cases removal by any user or tagging to clarify the content or to prevent external search engine indexing. (Examples include copies of old, deleted, or disputed material, problematic drafts, promotional material, offensive material, inappropriate links, 'spoofing' of the MediaWiki interface, disruptive HTML, invitations or advocacy of disruption, certain kinds of images and image galleries, etc) If your concern relates to these areas consider these approaches as well, or instead of, deletion. User pages about Wikipedia-related matters by established users usually do not qualify for deletion. Articles that were recently deleted at AfD and then moved to userspace are generally not deleted unless they have lingered in userspace for an extended period of time without improvement to address the concerns that resulted in their deletion at AfD, or their content otherwise violates a global content policy such as our policies on Biographies of living persons that applies to any namespace.
Policies, guidelines and process pages	Established pages and their sub-pages should not be nominated, as such nominations will probably be considered disruptive, and the ensuing discussions closed early. This is not a forum for modifying or revoking policy. Instead consider tagging the policy as {{historical}} or redirecting it somewhere. Proposals still under discussion generally should not be nominated. If you oppose a proposal, discuss it on the policy page's discussion page. Consider being bold and improving the proposal. Modify the proposal so that it gains consensus. Also note that even if a policy fails to gain consensus, it is often useful to retain it as a historical record, for the benefit of future editors.
WikiProjects and their subpages	It is generally preferable that inactive WikiProjects not be deleted, but instead be marked as {{WikiProject status\|inactive}}, redirected to a relevant WikiProject, or changed to a task force of a parent WikiProject, unless the WikiProject was incompletely created or is entirely undesirable. WikiProjects that were never very active and which do not have substantial historical discussions (meaning multiple discussions over an extended period of time) on the project talk page should not be tagged as {{historical}}; reserve this tag for historically active projects that have, over time, been replaced by other processes or that contain substantial discussion (as defined above) of the organization of a significant area of Wikipedia. Before deletion of an inactive project with a founder or other formerly active members who are active elsewhere on Wikipedia, consider userfication. Notify the main WikiProject talk page when nominating any WikiProject subpage, in addition to standard notification of the page creator.
Alternatives to deletion	Normal editing that doesn't require the use of any administrator tools, such as merging the page into another page or renaming it, can often resolve problems. Pages in the wrong namespace (e.g. an article in Wikipedia namespace), can simply be moved and then tag the redirect for speedy deletion using {{db-g6\|rationale= it's a redirect left after a cross-namespace move}}. Notify the author of the original article of the cross-namespace move.
Alternatives to MfD	Speedy deletion If the page clearly satisfies a "general" or "user" speedy deletion criterion, tag it with the appropriate template. Be sure to read the entire criterion, as some do not apply in the user space.

Please familiarize yourself with the following policies

Wikipedia:Deletion policy – our deletion policy that describes how we delete things by consensus
Wikipedia:Deletion process – our guidelines on how to list anything for deletion
Wikipedia:Guide to deletion – a how-to guide whose protocols on discussion format and shorthands also apply here
Wikipedia:Project namespace – our guidelines on "Wikipedia" namespace pages
Wikipedia:User page – our guidelines on user pages and user subpages
Wikipedia:Userboxes – our guideline on userboxes

How to list pages for deletion

Shortcut

WP:MFDHOWTOWP:MFDHOWTO

Please check the aforementioned list of deletion discussion areas to check that you are in the right area. Then follow these instructions:

Instructions on listing pages for deletion:

To list a page for deletion, follow this three-step process: (replace PageName with the name of the page, including its namespace, to be deleted)

Note: Users must be logged in to complete step II. An unregistered user who wishes to nominate a page for deletion should complete step I and post their reasoning on Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion with a notification to a registered user to complete the process.

I.

Edit PageName:

Enter the following text at the top of the page you are listing for deletion:

{{mfd|1={{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}}}
for a second or subsequent nomination use {{mfdx|2nd}}

or

{{mfd|GroupName}}
if nominating several similar related pages in an umbrella nomination. Choose a suitable name as GroupName and use it on each page.

If the nomination is for a userbox or similarly transcluded page, use {{subst:mfd-inline}} so as to not mess up the formatting for the userbox.

Use {{subst:mfd-inline|GroupName}} for a group nomination of several related userboxes or similarly transcluded pages.

Please include in the edit summary the phrase
Added MfD nomination at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
replace PageName with the name of the page that is up for deletion.
Please don't mark your edit summary as a minor edit.
Check the "Watch this page" box if you would like to follow the page in your watchlist. This may help you to notice if your MfD tag is removed by someone.
Save the page

II.

Create its MfD subpage.

The resulting MfD box at the top of the page should contain the link "this page's entry"

Click that link to open the page's deletion discussion page.
Insert this text:

{{subst:mfd2| pg={{subst:#titleparts:{{subst:PAGENAME}}||2}}| text=Reason why the page should be deleted}} ~~~~
replacing Reason... with your reasons why the page should be deleted and sign the page. Do not substitute the pagename, as this will occur automatically.

Consider checking "Watch this page" to follow the progress of the debate.
Please use an edit summary such as Creating deletion discussion page for [[PageName]]
replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
If appropriate, inform members of the most relevant WikiProjects through one or more "deletion sorting lists". Then add a {{subst:delsort|<topic>|<signature>}} template to the nomination, to insert a note that this has been done.
Save the page.

III.

Add a line to MfD.

Follow this edit link and at the top of the list add a line:

{{subst:mfd3| pg=PageName}}
Put the page's name in place of "PageName".

Include the discussion page's name in your edit summary like
Added [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
Save the page.
If nominating a page that has been nominated before, use the page's name in place of "PageName" and add

{{priorxfd|PageName}}
in the nominated page deletion discussion area to link to the previous discussions and then save the page using an edit summary such as
Added [[Template:priorxfd]] to link to prior discussions.

If nominating a page from someone else's userspace, notify them on their main talk page.
For other pages, while not required, it is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the miscellany that you are nominating. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the page and/or use TDS' Article Contribution Counter or Wikipedia Page History Statistics. For your convenience, you may add
{{subst:mfd notice|PageName}} ~~~~
to their talk page in the "edit source" section, replacing PageName with the pagename. Please use an edit summary such as
Notice of deletion discussion at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
replacing PageName with the name of the nomination page you are proposing for deletion.
If the user has not edited in a while, consider sending the user an email to notify them about the MfD if the MfD concerns their user pages.
If you are nominating a WikiProject, please post a notice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council, in addition to the project's talk page and the talk pages of the founder and active members.

Administrator instructions

XFD backlog
V	Jul	Aug	Total
CfD	37	39	76
TfD	2	14	16
MfD	0	1	1
FfD	0	2	2
RfD	0	9	9
AfD	0	0	0

Administrator instructions for closing and relisting discussions can be found here.

Archived discussions

A list of archived discussions can be located at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates.

Current discussions

Pages currently being considered for deletion are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.

August 26, 2025

User:Slami (musician)

User:Praise(musician)

The user contributions list suggests Praise(musician) (talk · contribs) has no significant contributions on enwiki, and their userspace page appears to promote himself. WP:PROMOTION. The user himself is not notable (WP:BIO), so doesn't deserve a stand-alone article. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 03:57, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

August 24, 2025

User:I.m.canadian/Quest Sandbox

WP:RFORK of SY Quest incident Paradoctor (talk) 12:27, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as a copy of an article and a redundant fork. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:57, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Sayne007/sandbox

Unsourced child actor biography written in Malay language that was deleted twice from Malay Wikipedia. Paradoctor (talk) 12:13, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Not being in English is not a reason to delete, but being an unreferenced biography of a living person is a reason to delete in any namespace. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:58, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Syedmuhammadqadiri

WP:RFORK of Naushah Ganj Bakhsh, content was repeatedly rejected. Paradoctor (talk) 11:44, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I don't see the evidence of repeated rejection of content, but this is a copy of an article and a redundant fork. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:00, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

August 22, 2025

Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Patchouli

LTA page for an abuser that apparently stopped editing 15 years ago. WP:DENY applies. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 22:49, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Utterly useless. There's no pointing in tagging a page with {{historical}} when it was only created yesterday. Pawnkingthree (talk) 22:57, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as equivalent to G7. Blanking except for a {{historical}} tag immediately after creating a page should be viewed as blanking it, which is viewed as a deletion request. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:20, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This page is only a day old. Challenge HQIQ (talk · contribs) as to what they think they were doing, and warn them that this looks like disruption. What connection to HQIQ, User:ChildrenWillListen, and Patchouli (talk · contribs) have with each other? SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:02, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have no connection with either of the users. I haven't even heard of Patchouli until yesterday, and I found the page while looking into this. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 13:08, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: What's the point of making one for a vandalism case that was ended 15 years ago, the immediately blanking it? Created a few days ago, no point in keeping it around. --Schützenpanzer (Talk) 21:53, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, essentially a borderline WP:G7. 88.97.192.42 (talk) 10:57, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as not useful per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:26, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Timelash

Unnecessary and uninformative LTA page that should be deleted per WP:DENY. Children Will Listen (🐄 talk, 🫘 contribs) 22:34, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ask ChildrenWillListen (talk · contribs) and HQIQ (talk · contribs) what connection they have with Timelash (talk · contribs), and warn HQIQ that this page creation looks like WP:GRAVEDANCING and is disruption. SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:09, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SmokeyJoe I have no connection with Patchouli or Timelash. HQIQ talk 04:18, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:HQIQ, why would you create an LTA page for an ancient dormant case? SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:42, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No reason, HQIQ talk 06:01, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete as follows:
- I almost always oppose deletion of LTA pages, because deletion of LTA pages, intended to deny recognition, is actually a Streisand effect.
- MFD is more visible than LTA pages.
- It is my opinion that the creation of LTA pages should be restricted to Checkusers and SPI clerks.
- However, this LTA page is new, and is not formatted as a proper LTA page.
- This LTA page is being created by an editor who has started creating LTA pages in mistaken good faith, and should be advised to leave them to Checkusers and SPI clerks.
- Limiting the creation of LTA pages to authorized users is a better check against feeding trolls than tagging them for deletion.

Robert McClenon (talk) 04:41, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn’t really mind if both pages (Timelash and Patchouli), to be honest. HQIQ talk 07:01, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

August 21, 2025

User:AritcoLift/sandbox

Promo user sandbox, g11 declined as not promo. Lavalizard101 (talk) 09:18, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

delete Merde . Borderline on my personal criteria for honoring G11's. Clearly promotional a little short of WP:G11. All promo sources.---- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:32, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per promotional/advertising. >^CreativeLibrary460 /^{access the library} ^revision\ 09:40, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 05:22, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as promotion by blocked promotional user. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:50, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

August 12, 2025

User:JoseyWales019/sandbox/Lamont Morgan

(Time stamp for bot to properly relist.)

Salvio giuliano

09:16, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural nomination per this conversation at ANI where evidence has been presented that this article was created (at least in part) using AI software. Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:40, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - As discussed at WP:ANI, this sandbox draft is the product of artificial intelligence and cannot be trusted, and nothing by this editor can be trusted. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:19, 14 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Plausibly notable. Real references. The use of AI in userspace is not inherently unacceptable. Fake facts, or fake opion would be unacceptable, but I don’t see that. SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:04, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,

Salvio giuliano

09:16, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Old business

Everything below this point is old business; the 7-day review period that began 15:29, 19 August 2025 (UTC) ended today on 26 August 2025. Editors may continue to add comments until the discussion is closed but they should keep in mind that the discussion below this marker may be closed at any time without further notice. Discussions that have already been closed will be removed from the page automatically by Legobot and need no further action.

August 6, 2025

Template:User css-N

(Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) Techie3 (talk) 11:00, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) bibliomaniac 1 5 23:55, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The text in this userbox is almost identical to Template:User css-4, which indicates expert knowledge. The "-N" templates for programming languages have long been treated as a joke, since the "native speaker" wording is not really applicable to them. The associated categories have already been deleted multiple times — see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 January 12#c-Timrollpickering-2012-01-21T01:56:00.000Z-Category:User_pas-N. I believe the appropriate solution is to replace all uses with "User css-4" and either delete this template or reclassify it as a joke template, as an analogous ones (Template:User pas-N and similar in Category:Humorous user templates) still exist. Solidest (talk) 08:43, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In case someone missed the title of this page, there was a previous nomination of this at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Template:User css-N. Justjourney (talk | contribs) 02:54, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Replace all uses with Template:User css-4 and then Delete per nom; I find Black Falcon's "redirect" !vote in the 2010 discussion much more convincing than the "keep"s there. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:36, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, bibliomaniac 1 5 23:55, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Try relisting again
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Techie3 (talk) 11:00, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete; do what Pppery said. Rationale per nom.—Alalch E. 14:54, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 07:48, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Closed discussions

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates

[1] The vast majority of pages in the MOS: namespace are redirects, which should be discussed at RfD. MfD is only applicable for the handful of its non-redirect pages.

[a]