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01:56:19, 2 August 2025 review of submission by 80.57.242.245

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IP editor, I fixed the link to point to your draft as intended. In general, a Wikipedia article should aim to summarize what has been written in independent sources, but you can still use non-independent sources to complement the independent ones. The original manufacturer or a storefront selling the product is considered a non-independent source, but it can be useful for verifying basic information about the product. However, if you can't find independent sources that discuss the product, it should probably not be included in the article.
More importantly, to demonstrate that the topic belongs on Wikipedia, you need secondary independent sources that discuss the general concept of commercials related to gyaru. Your draft has lots of citations to the commercials and storefronts themselves (which are not independent sources), and news pieces that discuss either the products or specific advertisements. It's essentially an arbitrarily selected list of products and commercials, most of which lack independent sources. Where are the sources that discuss the broader topic? Can you find any secondary, independent sources that, for example, analyze several different gyaru-related commercials, or sources that discuss the history or general trends in these commercials? Helpful Raccoon (talk) 05:31, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Helpful racoon! I'll see if any other information in the article can be broaden with information or discusses said info. Otherwise the advice about for the chocolates will definitely be applied! (I've found three news sites discussing the matter) Thank you yet again! 80.57.242.245 (talk) 19:57, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Helpful Racoon, I have another question but about additional citations. Does it have to be time accurate or? For example for the first subject about make-up brand candy doll can I cite a most appropriate time frame (2015) as it is the oldest available article or is any article discussing candy doll on any subject and time frame alright? I assume the latter is incorrect but just asking. Thank you 80.57.242.245 (talk) 19:52, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As long as the source verifies the information you're adding, it doesn't really matter how old the source is. In fact, newer sources are slightly preferred because they tend to have more up-to-date information. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 01:43, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yet again; thank you Helpful Raccoon! (I've been misspelling raccoon haven't I...) 80.57.242.245 (talk) 21:13, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

02:18, 2 August 2025 review of submission by Nsberklee

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All of the information submitted is true. I am submitting factual content. Perhaps I am doing something incorrectly. If Neal Smith Jazz is "googled" one can see that all of the information is correct and valid. I need someone to help walk me through the correct way on setting a page up. This is very confusing and frustrating. Nsberklee (talk) 02:18, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Nsberklee: I've deleted your draft because it was a copypaste from an external source. You must write in your own words. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:47, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, @Nsberklee.
Your use of the phrase "setting up a page" suggests that, like many people, you are confusing Wikipedia with social media. A more appropriate expression is "writing an encyclopaedia article about". Such an article should be a neutral summary of what several people, wholly unconnected with Smith, had independently chosen to publish about Smith in reliable publications, and little else.
In particular, almost nothing written, published, or commissioned by Smith or his associates, would be of relevance.
If you are associated with Smith, you are not forbidden from writing such an article, but it would be appreciably more difficult, and you would be required to be transparent about your conflict of interest.
If you are Smith (as you username suggests), then I would point out that autobiography writing about yourself successfully is so difficult that it is strongly discouraged.
I also suggest you look at WP:PROUD.
My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 11:14, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

04:05, 2 August 2025 review of submission by Lymenghong69khgaming

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My draft Draft:Cambodia national football team results (2000–2009) was rejected as “contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia.” I’m trying to create a results list similar to existing pages like Cambodia national football team results (1950–1959), which was accepted. I’d like help understanding what’s missing or incorrect in this version, and what changes I should make so it meets Wikipedia’s standards. Lymenghong69khgaming (talk) 04:05, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Lymenghong69khgaming: Cambodia national football team results (1950-1959) was never accepted; in fact it was draftified by a New Pages Patroller, and YOU moved it back to mainspace. I will likely send it to WP:Articles for deletion soon. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 06:29, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

04:52, 2 August 2025 review of submission by Swtysinha

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Can you please specific on the lines in the content that do not comply with wiki rules. I am keeping on resubmitting, and not clear what is the issue. Swtysinha (talk) 04:52, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Swtysinha: this draft has too many issues to start listing everything here. The last decline was on the grounds that it looks AI-generated, which I quite agree with. Do no use AI to compose Wikipedia content, it causes all sorts of problems.
There is also far too much unreferenced information, with entire sections without a single citation. This is totally unacceptable in an article on a living person: every material statement, anything potentially contentious, and all private personal and family details must be clearly supported with inline citations to reliable published sources, or else removed.
The tone is also too promotional, with peacock terms like "mastery", "prominent figure", etc. throughout. Your job is not to praise or promote this person, merely describe them. If you do use terms like that, they must be direct quotations from independent and reliable sources, and must then also be marked as such.
And speaking of promoting, please don't link to Amazon or other platforms where this person's music can be purchased, that just makes an already promotional draft look even more so. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a sales channel. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:46, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

12:33, 2 August 2025 review of submission by Utopian100

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I submitted an article on July 7-25 and have now received a notice that the article has been declined by a reviewer due to "submission: ilc - Submission is a BLP that does not meet minimum inline citation requirements". I have carefully cited the facts presented in the article and in order to address the cause for the rejection I need to know what specific facts should receive additional citations. How can I fix the issue without knowing what I need to fix? Thanks. Utopian100 (talk) 12:33, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It no longer says it is a BLP(as the subject is long deceased). 331dot (talk) 13:43, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the update. Due to the obvious misapprehension of the article, I wonder whether the reviewer who rejected the article is not qualified to review articles in English? Please look into this. Thanks. Utopian100 (talk) 14:14, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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