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edit- Tya Arifin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:NACTRESS, as the subject fails at least two of the criteria there. At present, she is more notable for being the stepdaughter-in-law of Siti Nurhaliza, a well-known Malaysian singer, as even stated in the lead section. This makes the article a case of WP:INVALIDBIO Ckfasdf (talk) 14:02, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Gwendoline Taylor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This heavily promotional stub is about an actress who does not pass WP:NACTOR, as she has played only supporting roles in notable productions. She also fails WP:GNG, the closest thing to SIGCOV in a reliable source she's received is a couple sentence-long passing mentions such as this for being cast in Spartacus: War of the Damned. Devonian Wombat (talk) 11:06, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep: Thanks to the nominator for notifying me of the AFD. I created this article back in 2013, not as a promotional attempt, but because back then there was a tool called "Popular redlinks" that listed the most popular hits for pages that did not yet exist; it was a fun way to see trends of new popular subjects that may be notable. Does anything like this exist now? I have no idea; that tool was created by the same editor who created tools with which we started the WP:TOP25. ANYWAY, I digress. The coverage is a bit weaker than I would hope for, hopefully something additional can be found and added.--Milowent • hasspoken 14:31, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Avinaash V. Rai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No significant independent coverage to justify a standalone article. - The9Man Talk 10:50, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Dian Rana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:ENT, also borderline self promotion or COI. Ckfasdf (talk) 15:13, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- Note that the article on the same subject was speedy-deleted on id.wiki under A7 and salted due to multiple recreation. Ckfasdf (talk) 21:57, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- And, note that the article's creator has an editing history focused solely on this article, which raises a COI concern. Also, the article was previously rejected multiple times during the AfC process before the creator eventually published it himself. Ckfasdf (talk) 08:00, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
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- The subject meets the general notability guideline (WP:GNG) through multiple reliable, independent sources with significant coverage, including Liputan6, Tempo, Merdeka, TVOne, and international publication Rest of World. These are not trivial mentions but substantial profiles covering the subject's public engagement and role in documenting the development of Indonesia's new capital.
- While the article may have been initially drafted with assistance, it has since been entirely rewritten and supported with verifiable sources. It is not promotional in tone and has been reviewed carefully for neutrality.
- Therefore, the article meets Wikipedia's inclusion criteria and should be kept. Nusantarakita (talk) 16:12, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, COI, multiple deletion on idwiki. Contributor(s) also suspected abusing multiple accounts. 🅷🅴🅽🆁🅸 (Let's talk) ✉ 09:54, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 18:40, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Glenn Meldrum (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:ACTOR. Only 1 significant role in The Saddle Club. Other aspects of career like a dog walker don't add to notability. LibStar (talk) 06:09, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Sahu Garapati (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:ENT. The article relies heavily on press releases, interviews, and routine announcements that do not provide significant independent coverage. Most sources are primary or about the movies which he produced. The available third-party mentions do not establish lasting encyclopedic notability. Thilsebatti (talk) 03:14, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Meets WP:ANYBIO criteria 1. Winner of a National Film Award; India's highest award for film. It's equivalent to the Academy Award in the United States.4meter4 (talk) 03:35, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- The film he produced won the National Award. I don't think this would make him eligible for an ANYBIO pass. Thanks Thilsebatti (talk) 09:39, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- The Best Feature Film category is often awarded to the producer and is the prize recognizing the producer's work. Producers are considered the head of a film project above the director which is why this prize is typically designed to acknowledge them at film prize ceremonies. That's true of most film prizes with that category such as Academy Award for Best Picture which is the American equivalent of the award won by Garapati in India. Other times it goes to both producer and director such as the BAFTA Award for Best Film. I'd have to look deeper at the by-laws of this prize to determine what's true in this case. Regardless, even if you want to split hairs and say it is to the film; the award makes him pass criteria 4 of WP:FILMMAKER even if the award was given to the film and not the producer. Either way he passes an WP:SNG and is therefore notable.4meter4 (talk) 11:56, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time to explain your view. I see where you’re coming from, but I’m not fully convinced that WP:FILMMAKER #4 applies in this case. That criterion talks about someone who has created or co-created a significant work, and from what I understand, producing a film—even one that won a National Award—doesn’t always mean the person was directly involved in the creative side of making it. Unless we can show that his role went beyond financing and production management into actual creative contribution, I’m not sure it fits the intent of that guideline. I do agree the award itself is prestigious and worth noting, but for me it doesn’t seem like an automatic pass under FILMMAKER #4 without clearer evidence of his individual role. Thilsebatti (talk) 12:44, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Again, I think this is splitting hairs, and in a way that general scholarship on film doesn't do. I don't think you are going to find much support that a film with only one credited producer that won the top film prize at a national level isn't going to specifically pass criteria 4c at FILMMAKER.4meter4 (talk) 18:21, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time to explain your view. I see where you’re coming from, but I’m not fully convinced that WP:FILMMAKER #4 applies in this case. That criterion talks about someone who has created or co-created a significant work, and from what I understand, producing a film—even one that won a National Award—doesn’t always mean the person was directly involved in the creative side of making it. Unless we can show that his role went beyond financing and production management into actual creative contribution, I’m not sure it fits the intent of that guideline. I do agree the award itself is prestigious and worth noting, but for me it doesn’t seem like an automatic pass under FILMMAKER #4 without clearer evidence of his individual role. Thilsebatti (talk) 12:44, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- The film he produced won the National Award, which Garapati rightfully holds it. For example, producer Dil Raju received the National Award (source) and (video). Similarly, producer Karan Johar has also been a recipient of two National Awards in 2023 and 2024, as confirmed by official press release by the government of India [1] and [2].
- Hence, he is a National Award-winning producer, where he holds it for the film he produced. Viswajith105 (talk) 16:00, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- The Best Feature Film category is often awarded to the producer and is the prize recognizing the producer's work. Producers are considered the head of a film project above the director which is why this prize is typically designed to acknowledge them at film prize ceremonies. That's true of most film prizes with that category such as Academy Award for Best Picture which is the American equivalent of the award won by Garapati in India. Other times it goes to both producer and director such as the BAFTA Award for Best Film. I'd have to look deeper at the by-laws of this prize to determine what's true in this case. Regardless, even if you want to split hairs and say it is to the film; the award makes him pass criteria 4 of WP:FILMMAKER even if the award was given to the film and not the producer. Either way he passes an WP:SNG and is therefore notable.4meter4 (talk) 11:56, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Subject meets WP:ANYBIO and WP:PRODUCER.Viswajith105 (talk)
- Clerence Chyntia Audry (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG and WP:NACTRESS Ckfasdf (talk) 01:31, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV. No notable roles so fails WP:NACTRESS. She was married to the drummer for Noah, a popular band in Indonesia. The media coverage of her death didn't even mention she was an actress. It was entirely focused on her connection to him and his reaction to her death. 4meter4 (talk) 02:44, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Jonathan Daniel Brown (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE, see Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Jonathan_Daniel_Brown. The subject is complaining about their participation in a pornographic film shortly prior to the beginning of their mainstream acting career (ultimately sourced to the tabloid TMZ and repeated by other tabloid sources as well as pornographic trade publications) being repeatedly restored to the article despite the BLP subject's objection. They seem relatively low profile and I am not sure they meet WP:NACTOR or WP:NFILMMAKER given their limited number of roles (while his lead role in Project X (2012 film), is undeniably notable, NACTOR requires multiple notable roles in high profile films) and the current sources do not appear to give many biographical details that would allow for a reasonable biography of this individual. Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:25, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete as the article currently stands, references 2 and 3 are a rehash of reference 4 which is WP:TMZ and shouldn't be included. Without that, I think this falls under WP:BLP1E. I have had a look for other sources and can't find anything that isn't a reference to Project X (2012 film).Knitsey (talk) 20:11, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Ah @Editor1769: has made the bold move and deleted the section. Knitsey (talk) 20:12, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- I've managed to find a 2023 piece he wrote for Deadline about the 2023 SAG-AFTRA strike, but I don't think this counts towards notability. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:15, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- I guess it could count as a quote about his opinion on the 2023 SAG-AFTRA strike? I wouldn't delete it if it was added but I don't think an opinion piece written by the subject is going add much to move the article from WP:BLP1E to WP:BLP? I am frequently wrong though. Knitsey (talk) 21:19, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- I've managed to find a 2023 piece he wrote for Deadline about the 2023 SAG-AFTRA strike, but I don't think this counts towards notability. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:15, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Ah @Editor1769: has made the bold move and deleted the section. Knitsey (talk) 20:12, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: I don't see enough sourcing to show notability, regardless of any deletion request from the subject. Some items penned by this person [3], nothing about his person. For the two decent sources in the article, this person is only mentioned. Oaktree b (talk) 20:22, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Not sourced well. Reads like AI-generated trash.Rafael! (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 21:05, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE. Notability is borderline; his acting in Project X (2012 film) is widely mentioned in reviews, but I don't find extended coverage about him, nor yet much beyond that film. The porno appearance was in a single film of a large series, very much not a "porn star" role; I found a summary in this 2012 retrospective assessment of Project X (cited in our article), which is on Metrograph, less tabloidy than what had been cited in this article, but demonstrates that it isn't a second point of notability, so that leaves us with a BLP1E and a solid case for acceding to the subject's wishes. Yngvadottir (talk) 23:02, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete I propose this AfD be courtesy blanked after conclusion too. Traumnovelle (talk) 01:27, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Ajas Pukkadan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not pass WP:NACTOR and looks more of a WP:TOOSOON with no notable WP:RS Agent 007 (talk) 17:55, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – Per WP:NACTOR. Just a child doing their first works, without in-depth coverage. Svartner (talk) 02:39, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- A. B. Dahlan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG and WP:ENT, but was blocked by a likely banned user editing from an IP address Ckfasdf (talk) 06:39, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 12:06, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:GNG and needs more sources to establish notability. Mehru13 (talk) 12:56, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - Per nomination. MayhemStoppingBy (talk) 22:42, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Amel Carla (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG and WP:NACTRESS, but was blocked by a likely banned user editing from an IP address Ckfasdf (talk) 06:30, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - Per nomination. MayhemStoppingBy (talk) 22:44, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Annie Krohn (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG and WP:NACTRESS, but was blocked by a likely banned user editing from an IP address Ckfasdf (talk) 06:37, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Hiromi Nishida (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable actress, not enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to show they pass WP:GNG Onel5969 TT me 13:07, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Nicola Paparusso (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. This article was previously deleted through AfD for lack of valid secondary sourcing. This issue still exists. The new sources from 2025 added to this article are all puff pieces generated by LLMs: "Long before Nicola Paparusso emerged as a leading advocate for diversity in fashion, his professional journey was firmly anchored in the spheres of politics and media—fields where strategy, communication, and influence intertwine." and "In today’s digital era, where viral fame can skyrocket overnight, the role of a discerning talent manager has become indispensable." I also suspect the subject to be engaging in Brown envelope journalism as the professionally taken portrait photo has been professionally retouched in Adobe and shared with all the new news articles from 2025 and magically appears in his infobox. The creator of this article swears that they don't have a WP:COI but I don't believe them (see their talk page for convo). Also, the Order of Malta has 13,500 knights and the Order of Merit of the Italian Republic has 160,285 members, therefore, the simple fact of having these orders does not confer notability in itself. I don't see any valid sources from Italian media either, just blogs. I also kindly request the deleting admin to salt this article, thank you. m a MANÍ1990(talk | contribs) 11:51, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: Hello fellow Wikipedians. I am tagging you because of your previous comments in the last AfD on this subject. I would really appreciate your input once again. Thank you. @Oaktree b, Mekomo, and Vanderwaalforces: m a MANÍ1990(talk | contribs) 13:54, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: I would prefer to see more sources outside of Nigeria to !keep. This was the best I could find [4]. Most of the sourcing in the article feels PROMO. Oaktree b (talk) 15:07, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I can't seem to pull up any official sourcing for the SMOM award, I'm not very trusting of a Nigerian source as the only such confirmation. Could be a hoax for all we know. Oaktree b (talk) 15:11, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @Oaktree b, here's an Italian publication that also made mention of SMOM, a reliable source, listed on Newspapers in Italy. Afí-afeti (talk) 16:22, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: The links above are mostly about the singer he represents, I'm unsure if they're RS (I'm not familiar with them), hoping others can weigh in. Oaktree b (talk) 13:19, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Several Italian RS confirm that SMOM. An interview with the subject also indicates support from African institutions, like the Senegal’s Ministry of Culture, so I wouldn't be surprised by all the African coverage he's getting in West Africa. Furthermore, the subject has received national honors and has been covered in independent, reliable, and verifiable sources—particularly when corroborated by the Italian references. The subject passes WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO.--Afí-afeti (talk) 06:16, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Suvendu Ghosh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Poor to unreliable sources, fails WP:GNG. Zuck28 (talk) 02:25, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: seems to meet Wp:DIRECTOR. See his filmography and sources like https://www.hindustantimes.com/htcity/main-mulayam-singh-yadav-director-suvendu-raj-ghosh-prefer-making-realistic-cinema-over-commercial-projects-101706942108884.html https://www.timesnownews.com/entertainment-news/reviews/bollywood/kusum-ka-biyaah-movie-review-suvendu-ghoshs-film-a-heartfelt-tale-of-love-and-resilience-review-107669287 https://filminformation.com/featured/kusum-ka-biyaah-review-1-march-2024/?amp=1 - E. Ux 06:02, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Independent reliable sources indicate Ghosh passes criteria 3 of WP:FILMMAKER. I note we have multiple articles on films directed by the subject. Typically that indicates a director will pass an WP:SNG.4meter4 (talk) 16:39, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Bhavini Purohit (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NACTOR. The subject has only two credits, neither in a lead role, and both in non-notable films. Also, the article has already been deleted 3 times (2 via speedy deletion and 1 through AfD). Ckfasdf (talk) 17:29, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
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- delete. Nom's opinion confirmed. --Altenmann >talk 17:45, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SIGCOV. Not notable. Herinalian (talk) 18:25, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Saath_Nibhaana_Saathiya#Main: but both her roles could be judged significant and in notable productions so that a case could be made to Keep per WP:NACTRESS. - E. Ux 22:31, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- WP:NACTRESS requires that
The person has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions
. Since the subject only has two credited appearances and those roles are at best arguable rather than clearly significant, she do not meet this requirement. Ckfasdf (talk) 22:47, 23 August 2025 (UTC)- I disagree. Two=mutiple. And the roles might be judged significant, not minor. But you will note that I am suggesting a Redirect and only indicated that I would not oppose a Keep, and why. - E. Ux 23:00, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- WP:NACTRESS requires that
- Delete. Source 1, 2 and 5 are unreliable WP:ICTFSOURCES. Remaining are about her marriage delays and a non-independent. Does not pass WP:NACTRESS who has not played a lead or any significant roles in multiple notable films or TV shows. RangersRus (talk) 12:25, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Emily Hung (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't meet general or actor notability. No independent reliable sources found on search. --Seawolf35 T--C 18:05, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: I'm unable to find enough reliable sources to meet WP:GNG, and she also fails WP:NACTOR due to lack of notable roles. Almost all coverage appears to be tabloid sensationalism about her figure. MidnightMayhem (talk) 21:42, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per the lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. Like MidnightMayhem, the only sources I can find are tabloid sources. The subject does not meet Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 00:53, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Oliver Savile (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG - insufficient coverage in independent reliable sources. Sources are primarily promotional materials, personal profiles, and self-published content. While subject is a working actor, no evidence of significant coverage meeting WP:ENTERTAINER guidelines. Keironoshea (talk) 17:09, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Tzadik Penimi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The two articles that have any depth-of-coverage are clearly press releases or paid coverage (one is clearly tagged as such at the bottom). Beyond that, I don't see any independent third-party coverage to meet WP:BIO threshold. OhNoitsJamie Talk 14:55, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep See this comment. Defenders by editor who apporved for AfC. I believe this article meets the notability threshold and the flag can be removed. This type of article is what I like to see more of in Wikipedia - lesser known professionals who have made accomplishments and have been cited for it. I learned something from this article. Bryan MacKinnon (talk) 09:15, 22 August 2025 (UTC) DoubtingJacob (talk) 15:10, 22 August 2025 (UTC) — DoubtingJacob (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Look at this article. Very insubstantial referencing but was accepted into Mainspace. Eriko Sato. DoubtingJacob (talk) 15:46, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:06, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Look at this article. Very insubstantial referencing but was accepted into Mainspace. Eriko Sato. DoubtingJacob (talk) 15:46, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. No substantial coverage except for two press releases/advertorials published in tribuneindia.com and The Times of India: [5], [6] (reprint [7]). Softlavender (talk) 20:45, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- There are more https://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/tzadik_penimi
- https://www.mid-day.com/amp/buzz/article/award-winning-filmmaker-tzadik-penimi-sets-sights-on-bollywood-with-dream-project-starring-shraddha-kapoor-5880
- https://www.peliplat.com/es/library/celeb/pc34704432/tzadik-penimi
- https://worldbizjournals.com/people/2267405/tzadik-penimi DoubtingJacob (talk) 21:56, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- None of those are independent reliable sources. All of them were generated by Penimi or his publicist. Softlavender (talk) 23:12, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- You says this yet if it were Variety or The Hollywood Reporter, NY Times, etc it could be to. It's hard to know what's TRUE independent ethical journalism. Wikipedia isn't here to investigate morals and motivations. This is supposed to be a repository of free access to information. The reader is responsible for deciding what to believe. 2600:1700:1030:8C60:BCF2:56A0:6A82:27BD (talk) 02:19, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
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- What a strange comment. Those publications have editorial oversight. And no, this is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not the Yellow Pages or a collection of improperly referenced claims about living people. Drmies (talk) 02:27, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- I have added AppleTV and TV.nu(German streaming platform) which get information directly from distributers/studios referencing subjects associations with certain projects. This should address both notability/citation related issues. DoubtingJacob (talk) 18:05, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- None of those are independent reliable sources. All of them were generated by Penimi or his publicist. Softlavender (talk) 23:12, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- If need be this article can be converted to a biographical https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:SST&redirect=no DoubtingJacob (talk) 02:04, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- A stub is not a valid alternative to a topic that does not meet the notability standard. "Stub" just means "very short". If you read the links you post carefully, this would be very obvious. DMacks (talk) 02:31, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- If you look at several stub articles of people there are in many cases only one or some cases two references. Also in many just ImDb which I put to begin with but it was disagreed with as not an acceptable source. DoubtingJacob (talk) 02:54, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- WP:OTHERSTUFF is one of the weakest arguments possible. Please let us know those other articles that also do not meet our standards so they can be improved or deleted. But "number of references" also is not critical. It's how strong they are, for verifying notability. DMacks (talk) 04:18, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- If you look at several stub articles of people there are in many cases only one or some cases two references. Also in many just ImDb which I put to begin with but it was disagreed with as not an acceptable source. DoubtingJacob (talk) 02:54, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- A stub is not a valid alternative to a topic that does not meet the notability standard. "Stub" just means "very short". If you read the links you post carefully, this would be very obvious. DMacks (talk) 02:31, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep – The subject has demonstrated sufficient accomplishments to meet notability guidelines, and reliable sources can be added to improve coverage. While the article is at an initial stage of development, it has a solid foundation that can be expanded and improved over time. Deletion is premature when constructive enhancement is clearly possible. Bryan MacKinnon (talk) 01:23, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Bryan MacKinnon, it would be helpful if you had a closer look at the actual sources. Drmies (talk) 12:44, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- If the sources/references are the concern, why not tag it with refimprove? The author has shown a willingness to take suggestions and make changes. Too often, it seems that many of these deletion discussions expect an article to be highly advanced when first published rather than anticipating it will improve over time. Once nominated, the burden shifts to the article’s creator to prove it meets notability guidelines—often discouraging contributors. Bryan MacKinnon (talk) 06:32, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- When the best sources that a WP:COI SPA can come up with are press releases/promotional fluff, it seems unlikely that there are actual usuable sources in existence. OhNoitsJamie Talk 12:38, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- This is feeling like ABF of the other participants here, who looked in detail at the provided refs and (at least on my part) actually looked for references ourselves. DMacks (talk) 20:13, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- If the sources/references are the concern, why not tag it with refimprove? The author has shown a willingness to take suggestions and make changes. Too often, it seems that many of these deletion discussions expect an article to be highly advanced when first published rather than anticipating it will improve over time. Once nominated, the burden shifts to the article’s creator to prove it meets notability guidelines—often discouraging contributors. Bryan MacKinnon (talk) 06:32, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Bryan MacKinnon, it would be helpful if you had a closer look at the actual sources. Drmies (talk) 12:44, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. Although we have claims to being a key crew of many films, we don't have WP:RS about any of them or about him as a person. I'm concerned that as far as I can see none of the articles for the films to which he is reported to have contributed mentioned him until this article was created and the user-generated/unreliable-sources started pouring in. Several of the cited refs for details of certain films that are potentially reliable do not list him at all. That could be a massive omission (but one that we are stuck with following, by WP sourcing/DUE rules), or else a massive joke being played. WP:V and WP:GNG/etc are the rules we have, and we need V of the GNG/etc, not just claims of GNG/etc and V of other details associated with the claimed topics. Need at least some actual RS to prove this has a kernel of a potential article even in draft-space. DMacks (talk) 04:13, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Navya Singh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The subject does not appear to meet GNG. Most coverage is routine, event-based, or interview-style, without sustained in-depth discussion in multiple independent reliable source. Thilsebatti (talk) 14:25, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – Fails WP:GNG. Coverage is routine and lacks significant depth. Setwardo (talk) 15:49, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - Far from meeting WP:NACTOR. Shankargb (talk) 14:53, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Paul Varghese (producer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Very limited coverage from independent reliable sources. Routine coverage about film announcements and production. Fails GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 07:07, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. Per nom. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 15:58, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – Just a WP:COOKIE. Svartner (talk) 00:28, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete – The coverage is about the projects and not the producer, so notability is not established. EmilyR34 (talk) 08:05, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
I am nominating this article for deletion because I am questioning the subject's notability. The few sources currently provided have reliability issues and are not placed or cited correctly. Much of the information appears to be unsourced or poorly sourced, which raises verifiability concerns. Without sufficient high-quality sources, the subject does not merit a standalone article per Wikipedia's inclusion standards.
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- Hello I beilive the sources are reliable and the kickboxer is quite popular in the full contact kickboxing scene in the old school era as for the citation I’ll fix them. What do you think? If final decision comes to deletion I’d prefer moving it to draft.Judgejury28 (talk) 00:52, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hey @Judgejury28, the sources are still not formatted properly and there is unnecessary spacing. Also, IMDB is not a proper source and the Vocal.media source isn’t even loading. Please fix these problems and try to find more reliable sources, thanks. GOAT Bones231012 (talk) 01:52, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- I will and also help would be appreciated thanks for your time. Judgejury28 (talk) 02:26, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hey @Judgejury28, the sources are still not formatted properly and there is unnecessary spacing. Also, IMDB is not a proper source and the Vocal.media source isn’t even loading. Please fix these problems and try to find more reliable sources, thanks. GOAT Bones231012 (talk) 01:52, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Nadia Ali (actress) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The 2017 AfD was snowed in favor of retaining the article. I believe this was incorrect. The subject fails ANYBIO. The subject has not received a well known honor nor has the person made a widely recognized contribution to the field. The claim to fame is basically “Muslim adult performer.” This performer post-dates Mia Khalifa’s hijab scene, so Nadia Ali is not any sort of “first,” in the field. Even if she were, what exactly is her contribution here? There were remarks in the first AfD that she was threatened and it got coverage. A woman was threatened online? Hardly a man bites dog situation. If one wants to argue ANYBIO, how was adult entertainment changed by her brief time in the industry? It was not. Even then, ANYBIO (which I maintain she does not meet) is merely a likelihood, not a guarantee. There is substantial overlap between ANYBIO and WP:ENT, so this might be a little redundant, BUT she did not star in many adult films and as I mention in why I believe the subject fails ANYBIO, her short-lived career did not have a unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. Even the sources themselves state she did a small number of scenes. WP:EVENT would not consider her notable for any of the scenes had they gone viral.
The other argument is WP:GNG. The sourcing in the article is such: There are two Daily Beast interviews and a quote of her all written by the same author (an actual notable performer). For the purposes of GNG, this would be a single source only if those interviews are considered sufficiently independent of the subject. The other sources are also interviews and press releases.
In the first AfD, someone listed a bunch of sources as a rebuttal. The problem is some run afoul of WP:NEWSORGINDIA and the repetitive natures of those that don’t run afoul make me question the intellectual independence and if such a list was confusing existence with notability. Mpen320 (talk) 00:48, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep: https://www.thetimes.com/culture/tv-radio/article/actress-threatened-after-hijabi-porn-is-unveiled-907jtv92n6p and other articles including interviews seem to show she is notable indeed.
Redirect to Pornography in Pakistan, if not enough.[Edited-Forget this stupid redirect idea, please]- E. Ux 14:19, 22 August 2025 (UTC) - Keep: per above. Zakaria ښه راغلاست (talk) 19:58, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. This subject meets WP:N and there are multiple references discussing her, including The New York Times, Daily Pakistan, and more.[8][9][10] Centralknights (talk) 15:29, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
- The NYT article is an op-ed, the India Today article was provided by AtMigration (which, I believe, supplies articles to multiple websites), the Daily Pakistan article isn’t bylined and The Times article is inaccessible. How does this meet WP:N? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 08:49, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- There is also Jansatta and The Daily Beast.[11][12] Centralknights (talk) 16:18, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- The Jansatta article isn’t bylined and the Daily Beast piece is just an interview, with no consensus on its reliability. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 04:29, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- There is also Jansatta and The Daily Beast.[11][12] Centralknights (talk) 16:18, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Open to changing my vote if someone brings better WP:THREE sources. Until then, the subject fails WP:GNG per my analysis of the sources mentioned above. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:49, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Chris Pinset (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable musician/producer. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Lots of namedropping but notability is not inherited from anyone he worked with. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:46, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete for lack of significant coverage. Also, he has fewer than half of my followers on Instagram, and I'm not notable. Bearian (talk) 15:28, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - He is a longtime behind-the-scenes guy who has been involved in a lot of projects by famous people, but is only ever listed briefly in the credits. He has no dedicated coverage of his career in its own right. This article is probably a promotional attempt to bring in business for his production company. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 18:16, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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No in depth coverage in independent reliable source. Sources used in the article are closely associated with the subject and some are trivial mentions. Rht bd (talk) 12:38, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep, several news articles and articles in many wiki languages. It seems User:Rht bd selected several female Bangladeshi musicians to nominate Afd with the same reasons ("no significant coverage" or "no independent coverage"). Although all of them have proper sources. -Afifa Afrin (talk) 11:55, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Which reference of the article at present do you think is reliable, significant and independent in nature that makes the subject notable for Wikipedia? Rht bd (talk) 13:55, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Naila Nayem (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No notable works to be mentioned in significant independent reliable source. Rht bd (talk) 20:36, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: নায়লা নাঈম is the subject's native name so searching might be more successful that way.
- Wow-wee and a half, what a train wreck of an article/AfD history. I will try and summarize the useful bits of the past AfDs so that we don't need to flip between 5 different pages.
- The bn wiki afd predates the creation of this article in en and might be of use to editors who can read it.
- Original (8 Feb 2015): First EN AfD brought by Ibrahim Husain Meraj closes as No Consensus after Zayeem says they can see enough articles to meet WP:GNG but doesn't provide any of them.
- 2nd nomination (28 Feb 2015): Ibrahim Husain Meraj starts another AfD six days after the previous one closes, procedurally speedy kept (after 3 weeks)
- 3rd nomination (19 Oct 2015): SwisterTwister starts third AfD. Numerous editors claim notability and link to Google search results. Panyd first advances a claim of WP:NENT which Ibrahim Husain Meraj rebuts with no evidence on either side. Closes as keep.
- 4th nomination (8 Dec 2017): Mar11 starts the fourth AfD claiming that her participation in Run Out (film) is not enough to be notable and that she has no other claims. Vinegarymass911 and Ammarpad argue keep providing [13], [14], [15] and other links that have since 404ed. The rest of the AfD got distracted by discussion about the bn wiki version and eventually closed as No Consensus.
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- Keep- based on the sources I referred to in the last AFD. Notability is not temporary.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 11:09, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Lemis (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable due to lack of significant independent sources. Rht bd (talk) 20:34, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – Fails WP:NARTIST. Svartner (talk) 23:48, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete or Draftify – so far no SIGCOV in my searches so far, did check in to its other language available, unsure if any of these are SIGCOV as not as familiar in that language's local news, however based on a 1st impressions seems to stil not be enough to suggest notability, to be fair the brief websearch does have a lot of hits on the subject, so not opposed to drafitify as possible ATD.Lorraine Crane (talk) 12:18, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep several notable news articles (1, 2, 3, 4, ) justify the notability. --Afifa Afrin (talk) 11:44, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Article 2, 3, and 4 contain the same information of publishing of a new music on Youtube, full of puffery and qoutation of the artist indicating these are paid news or press releases. The Thikana news contains different story but still promoting the subject. Clearly, none of these are independent of the subject, hence unreliable and fails to demonstrate notability of the subject. Rht bd (talk) 14:12, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- John Strehlow (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I'm struggling to see the notability of this subject. He has a highly notable family and there is coverage of him in relation to his family, but not really individually. The biography he wrote might make the benchmark for an article for him, but it's pretty borderline. He doesn't seem notable as a theatremaker. Boneymau (talk) 07:39, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
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- In terms of his theatrical work, his Triad Stage Alliance was the first Australian company to perform on the Edinburgh Fringe. They also won a Fringe First for that performance. In my opinion, that gives Strehlow some degree of relevance, even if it's just for the Edinburgh Fringe. He also wrote a number of plays that were successful throughout Europe. That, on top of his biographical work, justifies the existence of a John Strehlow article. Dr. Johnny (talk) 15:02, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment In 19 years on Wikipedia, I have rarely, if ever, seen such an over-written article. It is also badly under-referenced, except for a lot of incomplete references, usually missing titles and page numbers, to theatre reviews that are, apparently, not available online. I have greatly reduced the cruft/fluff/trivia, though I think the article should really be cut back quite a bit more. Two of the "citations" aren't even citations, just lists of critics who supposedly reviews his book, and nearly all very incomplete, missing the title of the source(!) and have no page number or url. I'm not convinced that running an Australian theatre company that was supposedly (cite needed?) the first to perform at the Edinburgh Fringe theatre festival, even if that could be verified, makes him or it notable. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:19, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. The terrible current state can be alleviated somewhat by going back a year in the history (prior to the major changes emanating from Washington of all places). His book The Tale of Frieda Keysser was reviewed in Aboriginal History, The Monthly and The Weekend Australian. Maybe could be handled differently, eg by moving to an article on the book with some background on the author but that does not require deleting. duffbeerforme (talk) 05:51, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- Aboriginal History is a journal. Review is in Volume 36, 2012, four page (203-206) review by Regina Ganter from Griffith University. -- added by Duffbeerforme
- The Monthly
- The Weekend Australian, ~2190 word review by Nicholas Rothwell, 11 Feb 2012.
- What is the title of the article in Aboriginal history? What is the title and page no. or url of the article in The Weekend Australian? -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:04, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- Title and page number of Weekend Australian added, no url I know of, is available in NewsBank. PDF of Book reviews section of Aboriginal History [16]. Journal info [17]. duffbeerforme (talk) 06:50, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- the article "False witness" in The Australian 10 November 2020 by Amos Aikman also helps. May be available online behind a paywall titled "Was Walter Baldwin Spencer a forger and a fraud?". duffbeerforme (talk) 07:10, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- What is the title of the article in Aboriginal history? What is the title and page no. or url of the article in The Weekend Australian? -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:04, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify The article might be salvageable, but it's quite incomplete, and most of the references are unacceptable for Wikipedia in their current state. Ira Leviton (talk) 16:15, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify per above. If nothing happens there then the draft can be deleted. Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 00:48, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. While the flow and citations need a lot of work as noted above, and hinge on the publication about family connections, his theatrical work is notable. SunnyBoi (talk) 03:50, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify. If this person is notable, it is for the books, not the theatrical work, which is, in my opinion as someone who works extensively on theatre bios, run-of-the-mill; his company was a small touring company touring to mostly small venues -- a London-based company that never played in the West End, never was nominated for an Olivier Award or any other indication of notability, unless new sources show otherwise. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:31, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom, the subject is non-notable. I could not find anything to establish notability.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:52, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Shameem Akhtar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Poor and unreliable sources which fail to demonstrate notability of this filmmaker making two non notable movies. Rht bd (talk) 17:03, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete - Fails sigcov. Agnieszka653 (talk) 13:04, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
- Would you consider a merge of Rina Brown into this? It would not be unprecedented. Bearian (talk) 01:35, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep As I noted in the AfD for Rina Brown, there certainly are sources. As well as the sources I listed there, other books and articles describe and analyse Akhtar's other films. See eg [18], [19], [20]. Akhtar also received the Shilpakala Padak award in 2020 [21] - she is listed in that WP article, but her article does not yet include this information. I will try to add these sources and additional information to both articles. At the very least, WP should have one article about the film maker and her films. RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:59, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep as per RebeccaGreen. -Afifa Afrin (talk) 11:47, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I have started adding info and sources. The text already in the article is rather confusing, so I have started a filmography section to add the refs to, and will sort out the text when I have the sources entered. RebeccaGreen (talk) 14:30, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: The sources that have been added to the article appear to be enough for GNG and NFILMMAKER. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 09:48, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Nithish Sahadev (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The subject is a director with only one released feature film and no significant coverage in independent, reliable secondary sources demonstrating lasting notability. Thilsebatti (talk) 08:41, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – Per nom. Only one film as the main director, without any major repercussions. Svartner (talk) 16:29, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Meets Wp:Director as director of at least one notable film, that received independent coverage. - E. Ux 18:09, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Keep/Draftify per WP:TOOEARLY. He has only directed one notable short film and one feature film, let his other 2 upcoming films release first. DareshMohan (talk) 22:25, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge one way or the other. It used to be common practice to merge the film into the director's article, but nowadays it's the other way. Bearian (talk) 15:25, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 14:12, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keri Rene Fuller (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article fails to establish notability per WP:NACTOR. While the subject has appeared in Broadway productions, the sources provided consist primarily of routine casting announcements, fan wiki entries, and basic promotional coverage rather than the "significant coverage in reliable sources" required by WP:BIO. The references include fan wikis (Six the Musical Wiki, Cats Musical Wiki), casting announcements, and brief mentions, but lack substantial independent coverage demonstrating why this performer merits encyclopedic inclusion. No evidence of major awards, significant critical recognition, or other achievements that would clearly establish notability beyond routine professional work. The viral social media moments mentioned do not constitute the type of lasting, encyclopedic significance required for inclusion. Keironoshea (talk) 13:16, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
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The sources showcase his productions without providing significant independent analysis of his notability as a subject. Many of the references are announcements or industry updates. Fails GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 11:24, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 13:23, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: he produced Number of films and articles makes notable Monhiroe (talk) 16:37, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- Producing "number of films” is meaningless without significant, independent coverage about ,the subject in reliable sources. You clearly have no idea what WP:GNG actually requires. It’s about in-depth, secondary sourcing, not just a filmography count. Thilsebatti (talk) 03:37, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep Passes criteria 3 of WP:PRODUCER. We have nine films with stand alone articles which the subject has produced. Those all have independent critical reviews supporting them, so the subject clearly meets the SNG guideline. In future reference to the nominator, producers/directors with multiple films that meet GNG on the encyclopedia are likely to meet our SNG criteria. Historically that's how things go at AFD.4meter4 (talk) 12:21, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete. I agree with you. Fails notability. ~Rafael! (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 15:45, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
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Non-notable director. The article was PROD'ed for this reason, which I endorsed because of it citing mostly unreliable sources (IMDb and the encyclopedia of Anime News Network, not sure about MUBI, but I know Rotten Tomatoes is reliable), but it was dePROD'ed by another user who claimed he meets WP:DIRECTOR. (Upon further inspection, that doesn't seem to be the case because I don't see the article meeting any of the 4 criteria mentioned there.) Couldn't find any reliable sources showing significant coverage of Koshi via a Google search. A Google News search showed nothing. Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 13:19, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Dogtanian and the Three Muskehounds, which is certainly his best-known work in the English-speaking world? He's directed odd episodes of lots of other series - he directed 125 episodes and a film for Doraemon, but that's a series with 2000+ episodes and 40+ films - but I can't find any coverage of him in English or Japanese other than appearances in lists of credits. Adam Sampson (talk) 16:25, 10 August 2025 (UTC)
- I'd be fine with Keep as well - I'd agree with the WP:CREATIVE argument below as Doraemon and Dogtanian are obviously notable. Adam Sampson (talk) 18:06, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: A clear WP:DIRECTOR/WP:CREATIVE pass as he has verifiably written and/or directed and codirected notable productions. Expand and source with Jp sources. - E. Ux 09:23, 11 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - I concur that this is a clear WP:CREATIVE pass with multiple notable credits. DCsansei (talk) 23:11, 12 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep. Clearly passes WP:DIRECTOR. Some google book sources in English covering portions of his work include [22], [23], [24], [25], [26]. The best sources however, are likely in Japanese.4meter4 (talk) 23:16, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: As is my longtime practice, I would like at least three reliable sources added to the article, along with context. Nowadays, with the current situation, we need to be concerned about poorly sourced BLPs. Bearian (talk) 04:18, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
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The current article relies mainly on promotional interviews and routine coverage tied to specific releases. There’s little independent, in-depth sourcing that focuses on him as a subject apart from the films themselves. Without stronger coverage in reliable, independent sources that goes beyond routine film news, it’s difficult to establish notability. Thilsebatti (talk) 08:39, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
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Weak keep. He is the producer of five films on which we have stand alone articles. It would be hard to square that he doesn't meet criteria 3 of WP:PRODUCER if those films are indeed notable enough to have their own pages.4meter4 (talk) 16:31, 22 August 2025 (UTC)
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The result was Keep. Thanks to LastJabberwocky for the source analysis, and to DeeMC1970 for providing numerous sources. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 15:31, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
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Most of the sources used in the article either doesn't significantly cover Dan Davis or involve interviews with Davis, both of which doesn't add to the article's notability. Initially, I redirected him to Ed Gein, the Musical that seems to be his most significant work. The redirect was contested by user:DeeMC1970 on my talk page. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 04:44, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Good Day, I am requesting that this information regarding Dan Davies (American actor) ”NOT” be considered for deletion but, to be considered and completed for a resubmission of the full and accurate original page for Dan Davies (American actor) from WI.
- I believe anyone utilizing Wikipedia has the right as it has been stated on the Wikipedia page to update information, however, it is always a good idea to verify any and all information with accurate and updated sources to continue with this library one is building on when utilizing Wikipedia. I myself have seen films and read articles surrounding Dan Davies work and my perspective and knowledge is because of this and by searching and learning from these particular resources so given this information here if you were to search for Dan Davies (the American actor) on Google, you would find a wealth of articles highlighting his acting career in Nollywood, which is the second-largest film market globally in terms of production along with an amount of sources to viewing films and other articles he’s been involved with.
- His latest project, the remake of "The Giant Spider Invasion," is receiving both national and regional media attention.
- This demonstrates that he continues to deliver outstanding work, and I will persist in my efforts to ensure his Wikipedia page remains accurate and uncompromised.
- Dan Davies has been featured and interviewed as an actor, screenwriter, and producer in publications nationwide and internationally.
- Here is a non-exhaustive list of articles/interviews about him vis a vis his Nollywood films, his "West of Thunder" western film and his latest film (Executive Producer & Co-Star) "The Giant Spider Invasion".
- He is even interviewed and featured in scholarly journals as well. I feel he is more than deserving to have his own page because his notoriety and notability are very well established. It's also because his films (co-star and/or screenwriter) have been showcased on Netflix - Worldwide ("A Trip to Jamaica") and theatrically in Africa (it became Nollywood's - the No. 1 Box Office Film of All-Time in 2016 - USA Today- Gannett-Wisconsin (Appleton Post Crescent) - (Appleton Actor (Dan Davies) in Nollywood's No. 1 Film) - https://www.postcrescent.com/story/entertainment/2016/12/16/appleton-actor-nollywoods-no-1-film/95387694/ and https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/entertainment/AY-breaks-own-Guinness-World-record-with-A-Trip-to-Jamaica-489269) and on Hulu "West of Thunder" (screenwriter/star) The following articles and features have roughly overall 50 million unique monthly viewers/readers. Thank you
- USA Today (US Nationwide) Film on Lakota tribe gets national exposure - Dan Davies is interviewed and featured as Screenwriter & Star about his film "West of Thunder" https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/11/native-american-lakota-film/21601149/
- Coast to Coast AM (over 5,000,000 radio listeners nationwide) https://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/dan-davies/
- Los Angeles Times - "West of Thunder" is a tale of revenge & empty victory (Dan Davies is mentioned liberally throughout) https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-xpm-2012-sep-20-la-et-mn-west-of-thunder-capsule-20120921-story.html
- San Francisco Chronicle (SFGATE) (Film sheds light on plight of Lakotas - (Dan Davies is interviewed and mentioned liberally throughout) https://www.sfgate.com/movies/article/film-sheds-light-on-plight-of-lakotas-3998078.ph
- USA Today - Gannett-Wisconsin https://www.postcrescent.com/story/entertainment/2021/03/11/dan-davies-reflects-career-book-rantings-madman-facebook/6892890002/
- USA Today - Gannett-Wisconsin https://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/2017/07/27/appletons-davies-named-best-supporting-actor-comedy/513901001/
- Ameritif Podcast - Dan Davies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPHhEaMAVWk
- Award winning film about Dan Davies in Nollywood - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQpJleLJkT0
- Insight Business Magazine - Producing A Silver Screen Career (Dan Davies) https://www.insightonbusiness.com/archives/producing-a-silver-screen-career/article_1299c942-71e1-59e2-813b-8a8267bc0f5c.html
- Nollywood Meets Hollywood - Alum (Dan Davies) stars in Nigerian Movie Production (Pg. 28) The Lantern Magazine - University of Wisconsin Press https://www.uwlax.edu/globalassets/offices-services/ucomm/publications/lantern/2015-summer-lantern.pdf
- Demand Africa - The Africa Channel (mentions Hollywood Stars Eric Roberts & Dan Davies) https://demandafrica.com/entertainment/movies/the-rise-of-nollywood-movies/
- A Journal of the Plague Year (Created by Arizona State University in conjunction with 15 other national & international Universities) Dan Davies Oral History - https://covid-19archive.org/s/archive/item/58892
- Rex Sikes Movie Beat Talks with Producer, Actor, Writer Dan Davies - https://podbay.fm/p/rex-sikes-movie-beat/e/1585497600
- Sai Kung Buzz (Hong Kong) Article about Sadie Kaye's Radio Program on Radio Television Hong Kong with Dan Davies as a recurring guest - https://hongkongbuzz.hk/2020/04/sadie-kaye-back-on-the-air-with-new-rthk-radio-show#google_vignette
- Dan Davies on Radio Television Hong Kong (RTHK-3) on the Mental Ideas Radio Podcast (Over 10 million listeners) https://missadventurerthk.com/2020/06/04/trolls-anonymous-mental-ideas-podcast/
- JoBlo - "The Giant Spider Invasion" remake (Dan Davies is mentioned liberally throughout) https://www.joblo.com/the-giant-spider-invasion-new/
- Bloody Disgusting - (Dan Davies is mentioned liberally throughout) https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3885555/the-giant-spider-invasion-new-scenes-being-added-to-1975-movie-for-2026-re-release/
- Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and in all the Gannett- Wisconsin Newspapers (Dan Davies is prominent throughout theses articles) https://www.jsonline.com/story/life/be-wisconsin/2025/06/24/wisconsin-cult-classic-the-giant-spider-invasion-getting-an-upgrade/84240665007/
- Late Nite with Pete Schwaba - Civic Media- Heard on 23 radio stations throughout the Midwest and worldwide on the internet (Dan has been interviewed numerous times on this show) https://civicmedia.us/shows/nite-lite/2025/03/10/long-movieshour-1 DeeMC1970 (talk) 21:45, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
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- if the productions he has co-written or in which he has played significant roles are indeed notable, DaviEs (not Davis), could meet Wp:Creative and/or Wp:Nactor. A redirect seems warranted anyway. Deletion does not seem necessary.--- Eva Ux 20:45, 3 August 2025 (UTC)
- I agree that deletion does not and should not happen if anything the original page should be returned and not be warranted of any changes other than new work that can be added with accuracy and verification. DeeMC1970 (talk) 21:57, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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Mentioned as one of the stars of A Trip to Jamaica | ✘ No | |||
Affiliated source; bio published by the radio talk show that released a documentary starring Davies. | ~ | ✘ No | ||
Interview | ✘ No | |||
~ Sem-interview | Has details on "West of Thunder", the film that stars Davies, but nothing specific to Davies | ✘ No | ||
Mentioned in the credits | ✘ No | |||
Interview | ✘ No | |||
Local Appleton, Wisconsin newspaper that seems to be reliable | ✔ Yes | |||
Local Appleton, Wisconsin newspaper that seems to be reliable | ✔ Yes | |||
Podcast interview | ✘ No | |||
Film about Dan Davies in Nollywood. I cannot access youtube to properly assess the film. | ? Unknown | |||
University paper usually unreliable per WP:RSSM | ✘ No | |||
Cannot access this source. | ? Unknown | |||
Passing mention | ✘ No | |||
Interview | Coverage by a university project | ✘ No | ||
Inteview | ✘ No | |||
Inteview | ✘ No | |||
Interview | ✘ No | |||
Passing mention | ✘ No | |||
Dan Davies isn't mentioned in the article. | ✘ No | |||
~ Semi-interview | The article is mostly preoccupied with 2026 remake of The Giant Spider Invasion starring Davies. Davies, in particular, doesn't have SIGCOV. | ✘ No | ||
Interview | ✘ No | |||
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- My assessment of sources presented by DeeMC1970. There are two sources that decisively specific to Davies and contribute to notability; and one source that mostly talks about 2026 remake of The Giant Spider Invasion starring Davies and a little bit about Davis. I don't this is enough for an encyclopedic page for Davies. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 08:40, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Dear LastJabberwocky,
- I know you are not doing this on purpose but you have misspelled Dan Davies' last name numerous times...his name is Davies...not Davis...thank you.
- To answer your questions and to gently correct you there are more than two sources in my non-exhaustive list that are completely Dan Davies specific. And here they are....
- USA Today - Gannett-Wisconsin https://www.postcrescent.com/story/entertainment/2021/03/11/dan-davies-reflects-career-book-rantings-madman-facebook/6892890002/
- USA Today - Gannett-Wisconsin https://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/2017/07/27/appletons-davies-named-best-supporting-actor-comedy/513901001/
- Ameritif Podcast - Dan Davies Interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPHhEaMAVWk
- A Journal of the Plague Year (Created by Arizona State University in conjunction with 15 other national & international Universities) Dan Davies Oral History - https://covid-19archive.org/s/archive/item/58892
- Rex Sikes Movie Beat Talks with Producer, Actor, Writer Dan Davies - https://podbay.fm/p/rex-sikes-movie-beat/e/1585497600
- Dan Davies on Radio Television Hong Kong (RTHK-3) on the Mental Ideas Radio Podcast (Over 10 million listeners) https://missadventurerthk.com/2020/06/04/trolls-anonymous-mental-ideas-podcast/
- Late Nite with Pete Schwaba - Civic Media- Heard on 23 radio stations throughout the Midwest and worldwide on the internet Dan Davies Interview (Dan has been interviewed numerous times on this show) https://civicmedia.us/shows/nite-lite/2025/03/10/long-movieshour-1
- Also Dan has been the subject of two award winning short films about his life, career and family. These were created by Len Borrusso (aka Len Eb) Len is an award winning filmmaker who has worked in Hollywood for years. Here is Len's professional website http://www.leneb.com/ and here's his IMDb page - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1808761/and here are links to all award winning films about Dan Davies' life, career and family. "Life with Dan" - IMDb page - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9440654/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_cdt_t_6
- "Ballad of a Mushroom Cloud" A short film about Dan and his Grandfather - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt25134638/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_cdt_t_12
- I am also attaching more links to interviews and articles that are more Dan Davies specific. Again this is not a non-exhaustive list... but also remember that most actors and writers are inextricably linked to their film projects so most articles about them mention their films liberally since that is their life's work and is essential to what makes them notable and/or 'famous".
- NPR-PRI To the Best of Our Knowledge ( Dan Davies Interview on National Public Radio program heard on over 300 radio stations US nationwide - https) ://www.ttbook.org/interview/dan-davies-ed-gein-musical
- PBS "Director's Cut" Dan Davies Interview - https://pbswisconsin.org/watch/directors-cut/directors-cut-dan-davies-steve-russell-ed-gein-the-musical/
- Waupaca County Post - Following His Passion (Dan Davies Interview) - https://www.waupacanow.com/stories/following-his-passion,23425
- Special Mark Productions (Dan Davies Interview) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2g4ZM76yN4
- Spectrum News (Wisconsin's Own Star (Dan Davies) Brings His Movie Premiere to Appleton) Davies https://spectrumnews1.com/wi/milwaukee/news/2020/07/15/appleton-movie-premiere-dairyland-brew-pub-the-runners-dan-davies
- Actor Dan Davies Interview on "Hot Seat with Hal Thompson" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=senyQOPmz7A
- Yahoo Entertainment - 'Ed Gein, the Musical' from Omro-raised Dan Davies will get theatrical play debut in Oshkosh
- https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ed-gein-musical-omro-raised-090751194.html
- Appleton Post-Crescent - Appleton native launching independent film awards: Sean Connery, Neal McCoy among winners - https://www.postcrescent.com/story/entertainment/2019/10/17/dan-davies-appleton-actor-launching-national-independent-film-awards/4001098002/
- Chicago Writes Radio Podcast (Chicago Writers Association) - Interview with Dan Davies https://chicagowrites.podbean.com/e/dan-davies-of-renegade-press-llc/
- Making Me Bold - A Behind the Scenes Look at Tempting Fate with Actor Dan Davies https://ardisanelson.com/2015/08/13/behind-the-scenes-look-tempting-fate-with-actor-dan-davies/
- Night Lite with Pete Schwaba - Civic Media - Heard on 23 radio stations and worldwide via Streaming (Dan Davies Interview) https://civicmedia.us/shows/nite-lite/2024/06/03/eggs-big-feets-dan-davieshour-1
- Dan Davies Interviewed on Best of Night Lite with Pete Schwaba - https://civicmedia.us/shows/nite-lite/2025/03/15/weekly-best-of-nite-lite-for-mar-15
- Civic Media Radio Podcasts - Dan Davies Interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U9_-js_z_c
- WHBY 103.5 FM & 1400 AM (Woodward Communications) Dan Davies Interview - https://www.whby.com/2019/05/13/bike-lanes-wedc-audit-dan-davies-drunk-driving/
- Fresh Take with Josh Dukelow Radio Show (Dan Davies Interview) Woodward Communications https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/fresh-take-with-josh-dukelow-218957/episodes/why-we-take-risks-actor-dan-da-126755578
- "Mornings with Laura Lee & Cutter" WAPL 105.7 FM (Dan Davies Interview) https://www.spreaker.com/episode/interview-writer-actor-producer-dan-davies--62234179
- WAPL 105.7 FM (Dan Davies Interview) https://www.spreaker.com/episode/interview-dan-davies--60135119
- London Director Awards (Interview with Dan Davies) https://londondirectorawards.com/blog/dan-davies
- Milwaukee Independent Film Awards (Interview with Dan Davies) https://milwaukeeindependentfilmawards.com/red-carpet-interviews DeeMC1970 (talk) 21:17, 5 August 2025 (UTC)
- Also as an addendum to my last post; the acclaimed author of the novel, I've Seen Dead People: Diary of a Deputy Coroner, Donna Francart wrote a book about Dan's film "Ed Gein, the Musical" and in it is quite a bit of information about Dan Davies' life as well as lots of factual information about Dan Davies as a screenwriter, filmmaker and as an actor.
- Ed Gein, The Musical: A Novel - https://www.amazon.com/Ed-Gein-Musical-Donna-Francart/dp/B0CDN7K9VT
- Also, if you have trouble opening up the Dan Davies Interview on NPR-PRI "To the Best of our knowledge" (Aired Nationally on Public Radio in the US on over 300 radio stations) - https://www.ttbook.org/interview/dan-davies-ed-gein-musical DeeMC1970 (talk) 02:24, 6 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment: I appreciate the identified coverage; I'm still not convinced it's enough for an encyclopedic article, but awaiting more opinions on this. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 06:10, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- In addition to the two previously assessed "postcrescent.com" articles, there are three more articles from the same source ([27], [28], [29]), which is more than the required three sources providing notability, but all of them are from one publication. The rest of the sources from the second bunch are podcast, semi-interview articles (mostly self-published interviews with tid bits of background info about Davies). I'm not sure about the Donna Francart book, Ed Gein, The Musical - A Novel; I couldn't find it on Google Books, and the book sample provided by Amazon doesn't mention Davies. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 06:10, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. I think it is pretty clear from the sourcing he passes WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR/WP:CREATIVE. Yes there are COI issues and the article needs copy editing, but those aren't problems pertinent to AFD.4meter4 (talk) 14:37, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
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