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edit- Nicola Paparusso (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. This article was previously deleted through AfD for lack of valid secondary sourcing. This issue still exists. The new sources from 2025 added to this article are all puff pieces generated by LLMs: "Long before Nicola Paparusso emerged as a leading advocate for diversity in fashion, his professional journey was firmly anchored in the spheres of politics and media—fields where strategy, communication, and influence intertwine." and "In today’s digital era, where viral fame can skyrocket overnight, the role of a discerning talent manager has become indispensable." I also suspect the subject to be engaging in Brown envelope journalism as the professionally taken portrait photo has been professionally retouched in Adobe and shared with all the new news articles from 2025 and magically appears in his infobox. The creator of this article swears that they don't have a WP:COI but I don't believe them (see their talk page for convo). Also, the Order of Malta has 13,500 knights and the Order of Merit of the Italian Republic has 160,285 members, therefore, the simple fact of having these orders does not confer notability in itself. I don't see any valid sources from Italian media either, just blogs. I also kindly request the deleting admin to salt this article, thank you. m a MANÍ1990(talk | contribs) 11:51, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Nigeria. m a MANÍ1990(talk | contribs) 11:51, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Authors, Fashion, and Italy. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 11:53, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Hello fellow Wikipedians. I am tagging you because of your previous comments in the last AfD on this subject. I would really appreciate your input once again. Thank you. @Oaktree b, Mekomo, and Vanderwaalforces: m a MANÍ1990(talk | contribs) 13:54, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: I would prefer to see more sources outside of Nigeria to !keep. This was the best I could find [1]. Most of the sourcing in the article feels PROMO. Oaktree b (talk) 15:07, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I can't seem to pull up any official sourcing for the SMOM award, I'm not very trusting of a Nigerian source as the only such confirmation. Could be a hoax for all we know. Oaktree b (talk) 15:11, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @Oaktree b, here's an Italian publication that also made mention of SMOM, a reliable source, listed on Newspapers in Italy. Afí-afeti (talk) 16:22, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: The links above are mostly about the singer he represents, I'm unsure if they're RS (I'm not familiar with them), hoping others can weigh in. Oaktree b (talk) 13:19, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Emilio Baglioni (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article reads more like a promotional biography than an encyclopedic entry. Much of the content is unsourced, or sourced to highly unreliable or self-published material (e.g. personal websites, YouTube uploads from the subject, a dead local blog). There is little evidence of significant coverage in independent, reliable secondary sources that would establish notability under WP:BIO. The inclusion of unsourced claims about childhood experiences, family lineage, and personal relationships further contributes to the article’s promotional tone. eh bien mon prince (talk) 18:00, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Appears to be a chef of some local renown---his restaurant got a LA Times review back in the 1980s and received additional WP:MILL coverage of the restaurant's life cycle. (12)---but there is no significant coverage of the subject to substantiate WP:GNG. -- BriefEdits (talk) 15:36, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Totally promo article, no evidence of notability, clearly fails WP:GNG. Baqi:) (talk) 20:36, 25 August 2025 (UTC)
- Free Group (South Tyrol) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It doesn't appear to be a real party (although it has a symbol), but a provincial council group composed of a single person. No other members appear to have joined it. The sources that just mention this group are very few (there are a few more sources on its chairman, Andreas Leiter Reber). If it were to structure itself as a real party and participate in elections in the future, then the page could be recreated, but currently it is failing WP:Notability. Scia Della Cometa (talk) 12:43, 23 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep – The party is represented in the Landtag of South Tyrol. This would be enough for me, but the party has also a website, an organisation and presence in the media. Wikipedia is great as long as it collects infos that readers might find difficult to find in such a consistent way anywhere else. --Checco (talk) 20:40, 24 August 2025 (UTC)
- St Benedict Patron of Europe Association (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not seeing any standalone notability for this organization per WP:NORG. References are to its own website ([2], [3]), WP:PRIMARYSOURCE documents from the Vatican ([4], [5], [6]), and official Catholic Church directory listings). I didn't find any other qualifying independent WP:SIGCOV per WP:ORGCRIT in my BEFORE search. Open to a merger of encyclopedic content to another page but not sure where the content would be WP:DUE. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:59, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Christianity, and Italy. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:59, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: A quick search found no additional material on this organization. If the subject passed NORG or GNG, it would typically have coverage in independent Catholic media, but that is absent here. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:13, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
- Part of the problem is that French Catholic media is mostly paywalled. For example, we can see from this post[7] that Cardinal Sarah's greeting to the group in 2017 was published by L'Homme nouveau, but they don't have an accessible online archive. There are also some references to the French name of the group in Google books, but they're mostly all still in copyright and not accessible. Jahaza (talk) 01:18, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: A weak vote from me as a new-ish editor, but with no COI, I'm not Roman Catholic. This association is a French-Italian-Polish organisation, judging from the board of directors, and in French there is a lot of additional sources. I have added 2 French sources, one from the Dicastery for Laity, the other from Radio chrétienne francophone - and I could have added more. The Dicastery is (yet) another Curia department, so arguably still WP:PRIMARYSOURCE, but it is a mass participation body and I would say high profile, and operates under its own steam. That first link also has a lot of suitable extra material to improve the article in question here, which I / anyone can update if the consensus is to retain. The RCF link - that is an independent radio station, within a pro-Christian mindset. It is part funded by some Catholic stakeholders. The link is of an radio interview with the French president of the Association, some extracts are on the web page, more in the embedded media. There isn't much more there to support the article, but what I thought was pertinent was that when the radio station wanted to talk about St. Benedict and Europe, this was the person to whom they turned. She then went on to bash the late French President Chirac for apparently trying to downplay the Christian heritage of modern Europe, I have no idea about that, but it does indicate that Mme. Chapon had a particular message to push out, connected with her job with the Association. But yes, this Wiki article isn't a good one, it is poorly written, badly sourced, can be improved. I think traditional Wiki sourcing isn't picking this up too well since it operates in multiple languages, mostly not English, and uses multiple translations of the Association's name, rather than sticking to one version. ChrysGalley (talk) 10:28, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- The French link to the Dicastery for Laity is just the French version of the English directory listing already in the article and discussed in my nomination. The RCF content is an interview with the CEO about Saint Benedict, not WP:SIGCOV of the association, and it's not independent coverage at any rate since it's an WP:INTERVIEW. I don't see how either of these sources gets us any closer to WP:NORG here. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:20, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- The point I was perhaps not clear about was that on the RCF web page, not the interview, the RCF journalist states - in summary - that after St. Benedict was awarded the title, some clerics wanted to respond to the proclamation by creating the association. So this is a statement on RCF's page and I take that as a Secondary source (WP:SECONDARY), separate and independent of the WP:MAINSOURCE. In addition there is a bit of NORG by dint of what the Association's president was doing, in a public forum, and why she said it - I accept it's not direct to the article. ChrysGalley (talk) 12:00, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- The passage you describe is a WP:TRIVIALMENTION, not SIGCOV of the organization. It shows it exists but not much more. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:45, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- The point I was perhaps not clear about was that on the RCF web page, not the interview, the RCF journalist states - in summary - that after St. Benedict was awarded the title, some clerics wanted to respond to the proclamation by creating the association. So this is a statement on RCF's page and I take that as a Secondary source (WP:SECONDARY), separate and independent of the WP:MAINSOURCE. In addition there is a bit of NORG by dint of what the Association's president was doing, in a public forum, and why she said it - I accept it's not direct to the article. ChrysGalley (talk) 12:00, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- The French link to the Dicastery for Laity is just the French version of the English directory listing already in the article and discussed in my nomination. The RCF content is an interview with the CEO about Saint Benedict, not WP:SIGCOV of the association, and it's not independent coverage at any rate since it's an WP:INTERVIEW. I don't see how either of these sources gets us any closer to WP:NORG here. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:20, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: The ASBPE is an international association of the faithful and there is only a very limited number of them, all registered by Vatican, which makes it notable. (Terot (talk) 11:15, 19 August 2025 (UTC)) — Note to closing admin: Terot (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DClemens1971 (talk • contribs) 07:24, 19 August 2025 (UTC)--Jahaza (talk) 01:25, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- Can you point to the Wikipedia policy/guideline that says Vatican-registered associations of the faithful are automatically notable? I am unfamiliar with this supposed presumption of notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 11:22, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
- Selective merge and redirect to Association of the Christian faithful section "Examples". I don't think it is notable enough for a separate article but it seems possible someone searches Wikipedia for information on it. Rolluik (talk) 19:26, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- If there are too many associations mentioned, a list could probably exist. Rolluik (talk) 19:27, 20 August 2025 (UTC)
- There is a list, here: Directory of International Associations of the Faithful. (Terot (talk) 13:45, 21 August 2025 (UTC))
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting for more feedback on possible merge/redirect targets.
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- Redirect to Directory of International Associations of the Faithful, lacks notability. Fram (talk) 06:46, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
- Giampaolo Pasquile (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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None of the sources are significant coverage in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject. This person thus fails WP:NBIO. Both of the "delete" arguments from the previous AfD were made by blocked sockpuppets. GTrang (talk) 20:13, 13 August 2025 (UTC)
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- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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