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Fain House (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I cannot find information that would support a standalone article about Fain House, not even on the Carson–Newman University website. There is no evidence that Fain House was declared a heritage site or historical place. There is not even a decent reference to include a phrase about the building in the Carson-Newman University article. The building fails WP:NBUILD. Some parts of the section on the Fain Family may be subject of a separate article: the 63 Tennessee Infantry Regiment and col. Richard G. Fain. These articles would be best built from scratch. WP:TNT Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 04:36, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chris D. Jackson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. The only WP:SIGCOV I have found is the Washington Post article. The list under "Notable media coverage" are mostly brief mentions of things he has said on Twitter but does not meet the standard of signficant coverage.

The article otherwise appears to mostly be WP:PROMO. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 23:07, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 
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  • Keep – Chris D. Jackson meets **WP:GNG** through significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources at the national level.
    • Major National Coverage**

- The Washington Post published a full profile in June 2025 focusing on Jackson’s role as a defender of President Biden’s legacy, his political work, and his online influence ([Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/2025/06/04/joe-biden-legacy-defender/)). This is in-depth, non-trivial coverage in one of the most respected newspapers in the world. - Jackson authored an **op-ed in Newsweek** — “John Kasich, Welcome to the Resistance” (July 22, 2020) — showing original commentary published in a nationally recognized magazine ([Newsweek](https://www.newsweek.com/john-kasich-welcome-resistance-opinion-1519676)).

    • Additional Independent Mentions**

- Jackson has been cited in The Daily Beast, Raw Story, and referenced on The Daily Show. These outlets provide further independent evidence of his national coverage.

    • Addressing Deletion Concerns**

- Labeling the article as “WP:PROMO” is misplaced. Independent coverage in The Washington Post and an authored op-ed in Newsweek go far beyond self-promotion — they signify recognized notability. - Wikipedia policy is clear: if tone or balance is a problem, it should be corrected by editing — not by deleting a subject that clearly passes notability.

    • Conclusion:** With a dedicated Washington Post profile, a personally authored Newsweek op-ed, and multiple other mentions, Chris D. Jackson clearly satisfies **WP:GNG**. The article should be kept and improved, not deleted.

MacroEcon67 (talk) 01:32, 29 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bills–Titans rivalry (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and lacks the sustained, independent coverage required to meet WP:NRIVALRY. A search for "Bills-Titans" and even "Bills-Oilers" yielded very little. Most sources focus on the two notable playoff games between the teams, with none providing in-depth coverage of any ongoing rivalry, if one exists at all. Playing in two memorable playoff games does not necessarily constitute a rivalry. WikiGiancarloC2 (talk) 17:00, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm guessing it must be either this or this. Ejgreen77 (talk) 00:09, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
First source was the aforementioned 2019 "is it a rivalry" piece, which the article leaned towards. The second one from 2022 is new to me, and can be viewed as a more contemporary one, but it leans towards a reheated rivalry existing to some extent, as Kevin Byard acknowledges its existence. I do agree that it's died down since that 41-7 Bills win in 2022, followed by Derrick Henry, Mike Vrabel, and Ryan Tannehill all leaving the Titans. WuTang94 (talk) 00:34, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Skeptical. This rivalry dates back to 1960, so I highly doubt that there won't be someone who finds SIGCOV on Newspapers.com or somewhere else. NotJamestack (talk) 23:11, 12 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Per Let'srun's sources below, there seems to be enough SIGCOV for a keep. NotJamestack (talk) 14:22, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The franchises had two big playoff moments against each other, but they're not really rivals. The fact the Tennesseean had to write an article asking if they were rivals pretty much definitively answers this one. SportingFlyer T·C 18:00, 15 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Found some mentions of a "rivalry" at [[1]] and [[2]], [[3]], and [[4]. Let'srun (talk) 02:00, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd say there is enough here for a weak keep, especially with the Fort Worth Star-Telegram providing SIGCOV from the 1980s. Let'srun (talk) 02:04, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    All of those articles were all written right before the two teams played each other. They don't demonstrate a true rivalry. SportingFlyer T·C 09:30, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    In that case I'd look for articles focusing on the teams "trolling" each other, like when the Titans keep running lateral pass plays against the Bills in reference to the Music City Miracle, or the sour taste left in Bills fans' mouths from that play. I know there may be some sources out there. WuTang94 (talk) 17:10, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @SportingFlyer I do not understand your logic. You can't just use the date an article was published as a framing device. You have done it with this AfD AND the Broncos-Patriots AfD. If you're just going to do that, you might as well not participate in these AfDs at all. NotJamestack (talk) 14:19, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, I'll participate. I'm simply noting that if the only coverage about the "rivalry" happens immediately before and after the event, it's probably WP:ROUTINE. You can easily find articles on different actual rivalries from many different sources at many different times of the year, not just recaps of the times they've played, which is all we have here. Every. single. article. here. mentions that the two teams are about to play each other. If they hadn't, no one would be writing about it! That's not a rivalry. Consider one of the sources even has to ask if it's a rivalry! SportingFlyer T·C 17:04, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The third article gives SIGCOV about the rivalry. Does it not? NotJamestack (talk) 17:23, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That article - Bills, Oilers renew old rivalry in playoff game - is about the upcoming Bills-Oilers playoff game, and contains only two paragraphs on the history between the two teams, out of 22 in the article. The rest is on the upcoming playoff matchup.
    Same with the other articles. The first mention they've played five times in five years, but is mostly about the upcoming game. The second is a short article and talks only about the two most important games the two teams have played, which were indeed memorable playoff games. The fourth contains lots of text, but only one sentence about a rivalry, and it's from the year after their famous playoff game. SportingFlyer T·C 20:14, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    22 paragraphs in a game article? That sounds like something that can satisfy GNG per WP:NOTROUTINE. It is an essay, but it gives good advice, and makes some good points that I definitely agree with.
    An article dedicated to their two most important games? It's short, but it does justify SIGCOV, especially if the two teams played eachother in both games, and no, they are not passing mentions either.NotJamestack (talk) 20:48, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    No, two OUT of twenty-two, and only used to frame the context of the game preview article.
    Two teams playing two individually important games against each other does not constitute a rivalry. SportingFlyer T·C 20:58, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd argue these sources do not constitute a rivalry between the Bills and Titans, but a rivalry between the Bills and Oilers. Also, the first source is not a source that significantly covers the history of the Bills–Titans rivalry. Conyo14 (talk) 18:53, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That's good because notability is WP:NOTTEMPORARY. Yet another reason to keep this article! NotJamestack (talk) 19:36, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I would consider the Bills–Oilers rivalry is not the Bills–Titans rivalry, which would require a rename. Conyo14 (talk) 20:47, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The Oilers and the Titans are the same team, so I don't think a rename would work, but that's just what I think. NotJamestack (talk) 20:50, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    There are plenty of historical rivalries. There is even a section for Defunct rivalries on List of NFL rivalries. As of right now there is no sourcing for Bills–Titans. Conyo14 (talk) 20:52, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. A source review would be helpful since there isn't even certainty that this rivalry is a "thing".
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 18:38, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Another example of a mostly made up rivalry. Basically only described as rivalry by sources that are more of like a Bills, Titans/Oilers (Or possibly even sites about history of Pro Football in Houston, combining Oilers and Texans). Basically the article was possibly made to try and get things heated up. Don't use Wikipedia to try and make people believe these are rivalries. Servite et contribuere (talk) 10:55, 20 August 2025 (UTC) [reply]
Read the sources. No one is "trying to make a rivalry happen", and while it's not as strong as it was before, sources exist for one that was stronger back in the day. I have a few more that I'll add tonight. WuTang94 (talk) 20:55, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think anything that is between the "Oilers" and Bills cannot be counted towards the Bills–Titans rivalry. Conyo14 (talk) 23:22, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Some old NFL Films documentaries covering the Music City Miracle seem to mention the Titans' old history as the Oilers and point to a heated rivalry with the Bills. If I can track them down on whatever streaming service they're on and cite them here, would that change your mind? WuTang94 (talk) 00:48, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No. I'd just say move the content on anything Bills-Oilers related to its own thing. Bills–Titans rivalry should be axed. Conyo14 (talk) 03:56, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WuTang94 I should be more specific. I didn't say it is made up. I said mostly on the article. What I am saying is it makes it seem bigger than it actually is. Servite et contribuere (talk) 08:21, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Changing vote to Redirect to List of NFL rivalries #Buffalo Bills vs. Tennessee Titans. They were formerly division rivals and I am convinced that this is somewhat of a rivalry considering The Comeback and Music City Miracle, but I am just not convinced that this is notable enough for an article on its own. So redirect per WP:CHEAP, WP:BLAR and WP:ATD. Also tagging other editors from both sides to see if anyone thinks this is a good idea. @WuTang94 @Let'srun @Cortador @Conyo14. Also going to tag a bunch of other sports Wikipedians: @Left guide @Yankees10 @BeanieFan11 @Aaron08 @GoodDay @Sbaio @400spartans @2012Olympian @Hey man im josh. Servite et contribuere (talk) 09:09, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In the future, I recommend you advertise this to specific WikiProjects instead of pinging specific editors, unless they have been directly involved on the talk page or in editing the article itself. We don't want it to ever look like canvassing @Servite et contribuere. With that said, if the article were deleted, that entry would also likely get removed from the list. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:44, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Even though I lean towards keeping the article, I agree that it might need a slight rewrite if we were to keep it, such as incorporating the additional sources for Bills/Oilers, making a characteristics section that compares the Oilers era to the Titans era, and incorporating more sources from the Mike Vrabel era that ended just recently. But if it's deleted I understand, though I think a brief mention would still be warranted in the "Rivalries" sections of both teams' main pages.
My assessment, however, is that many Bills fans view the Oilers/Titans as the same franchise and remained bitter towards the Titans for the Music City Miracle for a long time. WuTang94 (talk) 13:25, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here's a recent source from SB Nation: [5] Prior to the Jacksonville Jaguars/Buffalo Bills game in 2024, the Jaguars' writer interviewed the Bills' writer, who went on to compare the Jags/Bills series to Bills/Oilers from the 90s (and by extension the Titans): "This matchup [sic] tend to remind me of the 90s rivalry between the Bills and Houston Oilers (boo Titans) — mostly due to the existence of a genuine cross-division rivalry." WuTang94 (talk) 14:10, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A single sentence in an interview isn't SIGCOV, though. SportingFlyer T·C 22:09, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Reviewing the sources provided by Let'srun.
    • [6] refers to it as a "budding rivalry," meaning its a new and developing rivalry. Since there was no follow up to that article and the Titans now stink, it's safe to say that this didn't go anywhere.
    • [7] focuses primarily on the teams’ playoff history and is written like a pre-game coverage article. It's also from the "Tennessean", a newspaper in Nashville, which fails WP:Local.
    • [8] is fine and probably the best source for this article to pass GNG, but like SportingFlyer stated, only two paragraphs go into depth of their history while the rest is talking about their upcoming game.
    • [9] reads like a standard pre-game coverage and the "rivalry" part is when it talks about an incident where oilers fans sent packages of ground buffalo meat to Houston coaches to motivate them. It provides no in-depth analysis of the rivalry.
    • Additionally, the source provided by WuTang94 is from a fan blog who interviewed a editor from another fan blog.

For this article to pass Wp:GNG, it has to receive " significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Even if the source from Fort Worth is considered reliable, we still need another source because basing an entire article on one source doesn't make sense. As Conyo14 noted, we still don't have a reliable, independent source for Bills-Titans. I can believe that there is/was a rivalry between these two teams, but I don't think there's enough to warrant an article about it. Maybe a paragraph or so on the team's pages would be better suited for this? WikiGiancarloC2 (talk) 16:19, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Tennessean source doesn't "fail" WP:Local because you can't fail an essay. And definitely not a failed essay (Wikipedia_talk:Places_of_local_interest#Failed) This isn't only of "local" interest anyway. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:18, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiGiancarloC2: Are you thinking of WP:LOCALCORP? The Tennessean would be a regional publication anyway, but NORG doesn't apply to this article. Ed [talk] [OMT] 02:56, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 19:56, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to List of NFL rivalries § Buffalo Bills vs. Tennessee Titans per WP:ATD... but that's only because it exists, as quite frankly I'm not seeing the kind of coverage that would warrant the continued existence of that section. The fact that a newspaper reporter ran an entire article questioning whether the rivalry even exists is illuminating (plus their argument that one famous game, the idea that the Titans have to have some sort of rival, and "Mike Vrabel played most of his career for Bills division rival New England" [lol] adds up to a rivalry is utterly unconvincing). Other sources read like routine game coverage that push a rivalry angle into headlines to attract more eyeballs. Ed [talk] [OMT] 02:56, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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