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Christopher Bermudez

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Outside of a reserve team, Bermudez has thus far played in the third tier of American soccer at his highest level. I could not find non-primary sources about him to help establish notability, and therefore he appears to fail WP:GNG. Raskuly (talk) 05:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, Mexico, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Utah. Raskuly (talk) 05:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 09:01, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 09:04, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 18:53, 30 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I don't understand your point about "Outside of a reserve team, Bermudez has thus far played in the third tier of American soccer at his highest level". According to Wikipedia:NFOOTY, players are deemed notable if they meet any of the criteria including "Have played in a competitive fixture between two fully professional clubs in a domestic, Continental or Intercontinental club competition" and "Have played for a fully professional club at a national level of the league structure. This must be supported by evidence from a reliable source on a club by club basis for teams playing in leagues that are not recognised as being fully professional". Christopher Bermudez fits both of these criteria. If you need non-primary sources, here

Also reserve team would still count as that reserve team was playing in USL Championship at the time, which is a fully professional league according to Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues. ColeTrain4EVER (talk) 01:22, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I know playing level does not establish notability, I was just providing context. "Also reserve team would still count as that reserve team was playing in USL Championship at the time". Count for what? Playing level does not matter. Professional play is old guidance. And I know Real Monarchs was at the time in the second tier, hence why I worded it that way.

1st, 2nd, and 3rd source is a passing mention of Bermudez doing something in a soccer game, which soccer players tend to do. I simply can't read the NYT source so I don't know how Bermudez is mentioned in the article, but when I search his surname it only comes up once. Raskuly (talk) 01:39, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Professional play is old guidance"? Its still the criteria listed though? We should follow the guidance listed and not make up our own criteria. Yes, the sources mention Bermudez in passing but in context of the sport it would be continued coverage of him playing professional soccer. Playing soccer is something soccer players tend to do and this is evidence, from independent sources, that he is a professional player. Which is notable. ColeTrain4EVER (talk) 01:49, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NFOOTY has been superseded by WP:NSPORT, and Bermudez is an attacking player so it would make sense that he would do things in a game that would be noted in an article about a game, but the mentions of Bermudez in those articles appear trivial. Sources 1-3 are all about the exact same game so I fail to understand how that is continued coverage. Source 4 which I cannot read appears to be about John Harkes while he coached Greenville Triumph, so it makes sense that Bermudez could be mentioned since he was one of Harkes' players. Could you tell me to what extent Bermudez was mentioned in the NYT article? Raskuly (talk) 02:49, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

From what I can tell, the only time the subject is mentioned is midway through the article, where the author notes "In January, midfielder Christopher Bermudez moved to Real Monarchs, and Kevin Politz was sold to Hartford Athletic this past December." Purely trivial. Let'srun (talk) 13:22, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no kidding? I did not know that WP:NFOOTY had been superseded by WP:NSPORT. I appreciate you informing me and apologize that I was going off old criteria. It seems like it that is the case a lot of lower division American players will be re-classified as not notable because coverage can be spotty (not being the most popular sport in America does that). Not sure if that is a shame, losing so much work, or a good thing to clean up. Any good examples of USL League One players that fit the criteria that I could look at? ColeTrain4EVER (talk) 19:33, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. The only references presented are passing mentions and I don't see anything better elsewhere. Let'srun (talk) 13:20, 31 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]