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Middle East

Date and time notation in Bahrain

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Fully unsourced and fails WP:GNG. Absolutiva 22:28, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Date and time notation in Asia, but only if it comes with sources. Nathannah • 📮 00:06, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per WP:BADFORK. This can be covered Date and time notation in Asia. Completely unreferenced so a merge/redirect isn't necessary or appropriate.4meter4 (talk) 01:01, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bahrain

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The result was delete‎. ^Complex/_Rational 18:33, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Banu Hammed

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I cannot find any evidence of this group existing. The closest references I can find are to Banu Hamid in medieval Spain and Banu Hamid/Hamidi in Saudi Arabia. ComradePoppy (talk) 17:36, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This is completely unsourced and has been since 2013 when a speedy was declined, which was a shame. Banu Hammed would be the Children of Hammed and while there is a prominent UAE family name Al Hammadi, there's no 'Banu Hammad' as such in any RS I could locate (including specialist publications). There's a Qal'at Bani Hammad (also found at Qal'at Banu Hammad, because, well, transliteration's a bitch) in Algeria and some references to a Banu Hamad bedouin tribe in Northern Arabia (which would probably be related to Nom's Saudi Banu Hamid) but again, nothing of significance in RS. The Children of Hamad would be as ubiquitous in Arab nomenclature as Mr and Mrs Smith in English and unless and until someone writes a well sourced article about one or another of the various potential Banu Hamad targets, this can go. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:16, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - clearly fails WP:RS and seems to originate soley from WP:OR Grimforge (talk) 17:48, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- so far not specific SIGCOV hits in my web searches so far, found this but unsure whether or not it talks specifically about this.Lorraine Crane (talk) 15:08, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Date and time notation in Bahrain

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Fully unsourced and fails WP:GNG. Absolutiva 22:28, 18 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Date and time notation in Asia, but only if it comes with sources. Nathannah • 📮 00:06, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per WP:BADFORK. This can be covered Date and time notation in Asia. Completely unreferenced so a merge/redirect isn't necessary or appropriate.4meter4 (talk) 01:01, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bahrain Proposed deletions

Egypt

Ahmed Khalaf Ali

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Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV from reliable sources. The only reference in the article now is a database, and I was unable to find anything better elsewhere. Let'srun (talk) 01:09, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Were you able to identify and check sources in the subject's native country and language? Because that seems like it would be pretty important, especially seeing as it's for non-Latin alphabet information. GauchoDude (talk) 14:32, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of gymnasts at the 1948 Summer Olympics per WP:ATD. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 16:05, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GauchoDude: Good question. I searched the native name on the MENA database and the Internet Archive. Let'srun (talk) 19:44, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for clarifying! GauchoDude (talk) 23:53, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of gymnasts at the 1948 Summer Olympics#Male artistic gymnasts – As WP:ATD suggested above. Svartner (talk) 02:32, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ibrahim El-Dessouki

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Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The only reference is a database and a search on the MENA database along with the Internet Archive turned up nothing. Let'srun (talk) 21:09, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Not notable. Dualpendel (talk) 11:35, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete on account of the lack of sources that support the subject's notability. -The Gnome (talk) 20:33, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Egypt Proposed deletions

Arab American Vehicles (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
East Mediterranean Gas Company (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
Egyptalum (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
eSpace (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
Herrawi Group (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
Ibrachy & Dermarkar (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
Mo'men (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
Olympic Group (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
Seoudi Group (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
Shotmed Paper Industries (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
Corona (confectioner) (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
Starworld (via WP:PROD on 3 November 2024)
Bahgat Group (via WP:PROD on 2 November 2024)

Iran

Siege of Kars (1744)

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fails WP:RS Iranian112 (talk) 03:00, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. While the cited sources are offline and not formatted well, they are WP:RS academic books. We are going to need bit more explanation/context from the nominator on this.4meter4 (talk) 03:44, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: Please see the comments on Talk:Siege of Kars (1744). You may want to consider the state of the article before and after those comments were made and compare those versions to the current one. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 05:11, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Speedy Keep per WP:SK3. Only Policy-citing nomination and WP:RS is not a reason for deletion. I will strike this comment when a more throughout nomination rationale is given. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 06:39, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shahid Abbaspour residental complex

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Small housing development of 82 households, relying on open street map, census data and a single other source. Does not appear to be notable. Mccapra (talk) 06:53, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Propose redirect to Mojtame-ye Meskuni Shahid Abbaspur While making this article was a mistake, I think it still supports WP:GEOLAND, and its mentioned in all maps,(not just OpenStreetMap). And it has local significance as it can be found in several other news sources related to the region, Its mostly licensing matters that I couldn't add more.PAper GOL (talk) 07:08, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hossein Tousi

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Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. A redirect to Iran at the 1948 Summer Olympics#Boxing may be a suitable WP:ATD. Let'srun (talk) 01:19, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Iran at the 1948 Summer Olympics#Boxing – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 03:16, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Iran at the 1948 Summer Olympics#Boxing, where his name is mentioned. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:53, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Iran at the 1948 Summer Olympics#Boxing.4meter4 (talk) 15:49, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Persian Calligram

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Notability not established, article appears to be AI generated (both from the style but also I ran it through multiple AI detectors which almost universally agreed it's 100% AI) and the creator of the page was indefinitely blocked for plagiarism issues. Article survived a previous PROD but the basic issues remain. Perhaps a WP:TNT solution is possible if notability can be established from academic literature (and the Persian Wikipedia article on the same seems like it might be possible?) but as it is right now this is just failing to meet basic encyclopedic standards. M.A.Spinn (talk) 17:20, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Persian calligraphy, which is a viable and relevant target, as an ATD. This "calligram" article does not meet notability criteria as an art movement or style at this time. If I remember correctly, there were problems when it was first created - I'd have to look into the history, but it may have been a COI creation (in addition to the copyvio problems). Netherzone (talk) 15:55, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom, although a redirect is acceptable. Bearian (talk) 19:32, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If AI, redirect, but use a couple of the images in the target article. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:51, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with @Randy Kryn, that if it is redirected, add an image or two to illustrate the style. Netherzone (talk) 01:14, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Enayatollah Poostchi

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Bio of a philanthropist about whom little is known. Sources are mainly about his endowed institution, not him. No in depth coverage in reliable independent sources. Mccapra (talk) 08:26, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I hereby confirm the contextual legibility of the references cited. The article appears to be in compliance with Wikipedia’s notability policy, deletion policy, speedy deletion criteria, and conflict of interest guidelines, in the absence of compelling evidence to the contrary. I foresee the relevance of this information, particularly for second-generation and later members of the Persian-descended community in the United States, as well as for non-Persian-speaking Persian communities worldwide. Therefore, in the absence of a stronger case for deletion, the article may, for all practical purposes, remain. May peace be upon you all. Thank you.

PS: just for clarification the sources include the independent investigation of the highest official journalistic authorities of the state and one hardcore opposition one; which further promotes the principle of neutrality. and these are in in addition to the scientific notability criteria the original author posted.

ArmanMirzaei (talk) 01:49, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammad Jamshidabadi

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Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. The only reference is a database, and a search on the MENA database and google revealed no significant coverage. A redirect to Iran at the 1948 Summer Olympics may be a suitable WP:ATD. Let'srun (talk) 00:56, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Iran at the 1948 Summer Olympics#Boxing – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 04:34, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Iran at the 1948 Summer Olympics#Boxing, where his name was mentioned. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:45, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Persian revolts against Ali (656-661)

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fails WP:NOR and WP:GNG and possibly AI generated Iranian112 (talk) 20:17, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: The revolts are well sourced from various relevant sources like Al-Tabari and Cambridge maybe the wordings be changed but telling it directly Artificially generated is incorrect, however the citations provided are reliable.

Delete: Support per nom. R3YBOl (🌲) 19:04, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Expand The revolts were an important part of early islamic history as well as of Iran. The article be expanded which will include the revolts which broke out after the collapse of the Sasanian Empire during the reign of Caliph Uthman and hence includes all the revolts against the Rashidun Caliphate. The title be changed as " Persian Revolts against the Rashidun Caliphate " however the article name can be negotiated later onwards.
Legion of Liberty (talk) 12:47, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ^Complex/_Rational 18:33, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Banu Hammed

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I cannot find any evidence of this group existing. The closest references I can find are to Banu Hamid in medieval Spain and Banu Hamid/Hamidi in Saudi Arabia. ComradePoppy (talk) 17:36, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This is completely unsourced and has been since 2013 when a speedy was declined, which was a shame. Banu Hammed would be the Children of Hammed and while there is a prominent UAE family name Al Hammadi, there's no 'Banu Hammad' as such in any RS I could locate (including specialist publications). There's a Qal'at Bani Hammad (also found at Qal'at Banu Hammad, because, well, transliteration's a bitch) in Algeria and some references to a Banu Hamad bedouin tribe in Northern Arabia (which would probably be related to Nom's Saudi Banu Hamid) but again, nothing of significance in RS. The Children of Hamad would be as ubiquitous in Arab nomenclature as Mr and Mrs Smith in English and unless and until someone writes a well sourced article about one or another of the various potential Banu Hamad targets, this can go. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:16, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - clearly fails WP:RS and seems to originate soley from WP:OR Grimforge (talk) 17:48, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- so far not specific SIGCOV hits in my web searches so far, found this but unsure whether or not it talks specifically about this.Lorraine Crane (talk) 15:08, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Iranian influence operations in the UK

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As it was previously tagged as, the article has essay-like and argumentative prose and should be moved to draftspace for incubation AlexBobCharles (talk) 06:31, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify - contentious topic it's important to treat with care, and notwithstanding WP:NOTESSAY and WP:SYNTH concerns (e.g. in order to weaken and sow disunity within the United Kingdom in lead), currently there are not nearly enough incline citations to support some of the very strong claims in the article. Epsilon.Prota ^talk 11:25, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Similar reasoning to Epsilon.Prota but different conclusions. I don't think an article whose notability is based on an author's original conclusions, tabloid news, and the opinions of authors publicly opposed to the Iranian government is appropriate. Evidenced claims and allegations of Iranian espionage and interference in British affairs (and vice versa) can be covered in a neutral tone at Iran–United Kingdom relations. Yue🌙 21:15, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Firstly, thank you AlexBobCharles for initating a discussion. I beg to differ with the above, my original conclusions or personal thoughts are unrelated to the article. Regarding Epsilon.Prota's statement, it is not my personal opinion but a reflection of reliable sources e.g Hall's New York Times interview.^[1] The citations support the statements. The text is not a synthesis or original thoughts, it entirely a reflection of the citation at the end of the relevant sentence or paragraph. This topic is clearly very notable and has raised multiple headlines over the years. Most recently the United Kingdom has placed Iran and Russia in the top tier of threats.^[2]^[3] Regarding the "enough incline citations to support some of the very strong claims in the article", please look at the list of references: among the sources quotes are reliable sources such as the Financial Times, the BBC, Reuters, the New York Times, The Times, The Guardian... Having read Wikipedia:Notability I will make clear that the article does conform to the standards set in this platform. The sources are secondary sources, Independent of the subject and provide verifiable evidence that this article is notable. The coverage of the issue is significant enough to warrant its own article since the scope of the article is too large and significant to appear soley in the Iran - UK relations page. This issue isn't temporary and has been ongoing for the last couple of years at least. Of course, I'd be happy to engage in proper discussion over wording of sentences. However I do not believe it is on its own enough of a reason to draft or delete the article. I'm attaching some direct quotes from sources.

Jonathan Hall told the New York Times, the United Kingdom - "Britain’s domestic intelligence agency, MI5, warned that Russia, Iran and China represented the biggest state threats to national security and were outsourcing espionage and sabotage operations designed to disrupt and destabilize Britain." , “Faces ‘Extraordinary’ Threat from Russian and Iranian Plots”. - This is based on the NYT article. "Mr. Hall’s warnings, and those of other senior British officials, stand in sharp contrast to the United States, where President Trump has said little about the efforts of Russia and Iran to destabilize American society, preferring instead to focus on diplomatic overtures to the two countries on issues like the war in Ukraine and Tehran’s nuclear program."

Reuters which reports on UK Security minister Dan Jarvis Iran statements: "Britain said on Tuesday it would require the Iranian state to register everything it does to exert political influence in the UK, subjecting Tehran to an elevated tier of scrutiny in light of what it said was increasingly aggressive activity." , "(Iran) has become increasingly emboldened, asserting itself more aggressively to advance their objectives and undermine ours. This is evidenced by the fact that direct action against UK targets has substantially increased over recent years," , "It is clear that these plots are a conscious strategy of the Iranian regime to stifle criticism through intimidation and fear. These threats are unacceptable. They must and will be defended against at every turn."

The Times: "“It’s clear that the IRGC is taking on an extremely active role in supporting Scottish independence across social media" "

The Times: "Iran has developed a “sophisticated network” across the UK to actively promote propaganda and “plant seeds of suspicion” against the British government, a report has claimed." , "Britain had become a “flashpoint” Iranian influence." , " Iran became the first country to be formally declared a national security threat to the UK." , "NUFDI said the centre was the “main artery of information between Tehran and London” and allowed the regime to “construct a multifaceted web of institutions in the UK, all subservient to the supreme leader of Iran”." , "...it was “planting seeds of suspicion (against their own British government)," , "...rather seek to export the Islamic Revolution to their new homeland”" , "...certainly to weaken support for Britain and the freedoms that we have in the West”" , "A government spokesman said: “Anything that seeks to undermine our democratic society is unacceptable. We consistently work closely with our partners to ensure the safety and security of the public."

Policy Exchange: "Finally, Iran poses a direct threat to British social cohesion. Iran has a network of active agents and friendly plants within the UK that it has used, and will employ in the future, to infiltrate British society. " , " Iran has sought to use astroturfed social media accounts in the past to support Scottish separatism"

There's more...

Thanks! MelikaShokoufandeh (talk) 07:39, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

^ Dearden, Lizzie; Landler, Mark (2025-06-06). "U.K. Faces 'Extraordinary' Threat From Russian and Iranian Plots, Official Warns". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2025-06-28.
^ "UK launches Foreign Influence Registration Scheme". United Kingdom Government.
^ "Client Challenge". www.ft.com. Retrieved 2025-08-20.

Keep The above arguments have convinced me this article is worth keeping. It is supported by multiple high-quality and independent sources (NYT, Reuters, BBC, FT, The Times), establishing clear notability. While the prose may need copy-editing, these are presentation issues and not grounds for deletion. Razgura (talk) 11:38, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The article has a number of issues, but AfD isn't cleanup, and the sourcing is sufficient to warrant an article on the topic. Cortador (talk) 13:36, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Farhang Khosropanah

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Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Not helping matters is that while the International Shooting Sport Federation lists the name as Farhang Khosropanah, Olympedia has the name listed as Farhang Khosro Panah. In any event, I couldn't find any WP:SIGCOV under either name whether through Google, the Internet Archive, or the MENA database. A redirect to Iran at the 1948 Summer Olympics may be a suitable WP:ATD, although the name conflict may cause issues with that. Let'srun (talk) 01:30, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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To make matters even more confusing, in addition to the Persian name listed on his page, I am also seeing "سوان فرهنگ خسروپناه" if someone with more Farsi knowledge wants to look. Ike Lek (talk) 02:56, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

فرهنگ خسروپناه is his name, سوان is the literal transliteration to "swan" but is not a word in Farsi. I don't know where "سوان" is but remove it. jolielover♥talk 05:34, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't on Wikipedia. It is in articles on the Persian internet, leading me to think it might be just part of a weird name. Ike Lek (talk) 05:36, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Asked my Persian friend to verify and she said it's not a word. jolielover♥talk 06:00, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Majid Azami

AfDs for this article:

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Renomination – the previous AfD (closed no consensus on 24 May 2025) did not fully address several serious WP:BLP / sourcing issues that remain unresolved. See: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Majid Azami (24 May 2025).

BLP sourcing problems: The article’s most serious allegations (e.g., involvement in military oil networks and links to sanctioned groups) rely heavily on politically affiliated or non-mainstream outlets and databases (e.g., Iran International, IFMAT, OpenSanctions, iranianuk.com; see the current reference list) rather than multiple high-quality, independent secondary sources with careful attribution, as required by WP:BLP/WP:BLPSOURCES. Contentious material about living persons must be written conservatively and supported by strong, reliable sources. The article itself is tagged for BLP sourcing issues as of August 2025.

Insufficient significant independent coverage of the person (WP:GNG / WP:NPERSON): Mainstream pieces (e.g., Reuters; AP) mention the subject in sanction round-ups but do not provide in-depth biographical coverage focused on the individual. Brief mentions in sanction notices or pieces primarily about companies/networks are not enough to establish standalone notability for a biography.

Undue / promotional or vague claims: Statements like “one of the most influential figures” are supported by marginal sources (e.g., kountrass.com; iranianuk.com) and should not be used to support weighty claims in a BLP. Such claims either require high-quality sourcing or removal per WP:BLP.

One-event–style notability (WP:BLP1E): The article’s notability appears to rest chiefly on a single cluster of events (U.S. Treasury/OFAC designations and associated media pickup in late 2023), which on its own typically does not justify a standalone BLP without broader, sustained, in-depth coverage about the person.

Given the above, I believe the article fails WP:GNG/WP:NPERSON and is unsafe under WP:BLP.

Proposed outcomes:

Delete the article per GNG/NPERSON/BLP.
If consensus is not to delete, Redirect to Sepehr Energy Jahan Nama Pars Company (article already exists and provides context), pending any future emergence of multiple independent, high-quality sources with significant coverage of the person. See WP:ATD (redirect as an alternative).

Notes: The previous AfD (24 May 2025) closed no consensus; more than two months have passed and this renomination focuses specifically on sourcing/BLP concerns that were not fully resolved. See WP:RENOM.

Osmium190 (talk) 15:48, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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thanks so mush, now it is ok? Osmium190 (talk) 16:06, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Procedural close, the nomination looks LLM-generated. If that's the case, it is unacceptable, and the AFD nom was also Osmium190 (talk · contribs)'s second edit ever. For these reasons this AFD is tainted. Geschichte (talk) 05:25, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comment. Ok, let’s clear something, FIRST: editing and improving passages with LLM is not a Fault. Use this tool could improve efficacy and clarity of meaning to readers. SECOND: the reason that this is my just second edit is a bad thing? Am I inputted wrong information? I was asked from somebody to help him delete the page that is related to him, and this allegation are so serious when it come to the first record of google search when somebody search his name and because of this reason Wikipedia is so sensitive to living person pages.

My suggestion is concentrating on the arguments that I mentioned above and let discuses on non-biased and professional way instead of give me allegation. (this is my not LLM passage!) good luck Osmium190 (talk) 06:27, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Editing and improving passages with LLM is a huge problem, and will never be accepted here at Wikipedia. It also follows that you did not provide any arguments, a machine did - and that is not relevant for us to discuss. Furthermore, since you have had contact with "somebody" offline we have now entered WP:COI territory which I would like you to consult. Geschichte (talk) 18:46, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ok, i did not know that, thanks for your clear answer.

disclosure: I was contacted off-wiki by someone connected to the subject, so I have a COI.

I won’t edit the article directly.

my concern is that the article relies heavily on marginal sources for serious allegations

(e.g., OpenSanctions, IFMAT, kountrass, iranianuk), which is problematic under WP:BLPSOURCES.

The coverage also appears tied to a single event (sanctions in late 2023), raising WP:BLP1E

concerns. Redirect to the related company article may be the best solution. ~~~~ Osmium190 (talk) 10:16, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I reiterate that someone should close this instantly. It was written with AI by a user with an at the time undisclosed (later disclosed) conflict of interest. Geschichte (talk) 09:59, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Craposyncrasies

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Notability not established ("reception" appears to be just random bloggers and even a Facebook post!) and reads like an advertisement. M.A.Spinn (talk) 03:10, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Passes WP:NBOOK and WP:GNG. Was a WP:BEFORE done? The book was reviewed in this English language journal [1] There are also several newspaper reviews in the mainstream foreign press given in the foreign language wikipedia article. There's clearly enough independent coverage to meet our notability guidelines.4meter4 (talk) 01:43, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Per above review mentions. — Maile (talk) 17:38, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Iran Proposed deletions

Standardized Patient (via WP:PROD on 29 January 2024)

Iraq

John W. Garrett Jr.

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Not notable; subject's only claim to notability is being a victim of the 1994 Black Hawk shootdown incident and bio article is substantively nothing more than an obituary/memorial providing no additional relevant detail beyond the (already FA-status) main article for the event. Wikipedia is not a memorial or an obituary and this person is not even sufficiently notable for one event -- by comparison, no other victim of the shootdown has an article either.⇒SWATJester ^{Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat!} 05:16, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Merge with "1994 Black Hawk shootdown incident", as that's what most of this article consists of. There's a list of victims there, but it could be expanded into a section with a brief description of each; that's all that there is about the subject of this article here. That still might be trimmed, but some details such as home town or background kept—provided similar details are available for at least some of the other victims. If that's not going to happen, then simply delete. P Aculeius (talk) 13:51, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: One of 26 victims, is not notable. Rather routine military career, based on the limited info available. Oaktree b (talk) 15:15, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Israel

Genocidal intent of Hamas toward Israel

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I believe this article does not meet notability guidelines. Much of the text is already discussed in Allegations of genocide in the October 7 attacks and Hamas. Parts of this article could be used to expand the Hamas page, or the Criticism of Hamas page instead: the former of which already has a section discussing Hamas' use of violence, and the latter of which already has a section discussing accusations of genocidal intent. Unless there becomes too much info both pages specifically around accusations of genocidal intent to warrant an entire new article about genocidal intent, this page feels redundant. Compare this page to the Gaza genocide article, which largely focuses on discussion and analysis of how actions constitute as genocide. Most of the content and references in this page are simply rehashing attacks which are already discussed in greater depth on other pages. Right now, there is not enough info on this page, or other Wikipedia pages, analyzing accusations of genocidal intent to warrant an entire article. Amtoastintolerant (talk) 13:28, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Besides being a fork of pre-existing articles (those already mentioned above), only 4 sources directly comment on the article's scope of "genocide" or "genocidal intent"' & the rest is either WP:SYNTH or reiterates unrelated information about Hamas. - Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 15:40, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the entire article consists of original research, and even if it didn't I believe this subject is better covered in other articles that already exist. (t · c) buidhe 22:33, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Allegations of genocide in the October 7 attacks. Despite the article stating the difference, the sources practically cover only that and other general Criticism of Hamas. SITH (talk) 16:57, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as a WP:POVFORK from Allegations of genocide in the October 7 attacks. The article was previously a WP:COATRACK of various additional criticisms of Hamas unrelated to genocidal intent, but those look to have been deleted. EvansHallBear (talk) 03:45, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this is just Allegations of genocide in the October 7 attacks Personisinsterest (talk) 18:31, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mati Shemoelof

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No substantial independent coverage. The mentioned award is from a non-notable website. Largoplazo (talk) 15:32, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Mati Shemoelof is an established author and poet with a significant body of work published in both Israel and Germany. He has published 12 books, including poetry, prose, and essays, and his work spans multiple languages and cultures.

Shemoelof has written regular columns for leading publications such as Haaretz and Israel Hayom in Israel, The Jewish Independent in Australia, and currently writes for Berliner Zeitung in Germany. His writings and literary contributions have been covered by major media outlets, including The New York Times and prominent German newspapers.

In addition to his existing publications, Shemoelof is set to release his first book in English next year, along with a new book written in German to be published in Germany.

Given his international presence, ongoing literary activity, and the recognition he has received across various media platforms, deleting his Wikipedia page would overlook the notability and relevance of his work. His contributions to literature and journalism are well-documented, diverse, and continue to have a global impact. מתיאל (talk) 10:07, 25 August 2025 (UTC)מתיאל[reply]

Wikipedia doesn't directly consider a person's work to make its own evaluation as to their notability. You need to establish his notability by showing where he has received elsewhere, in reliable sources, the sort of attention you're saying he should receive here. See WP:Notability. Largoplazo (talk) 14:43, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The subject of this article is a widely published author and poet whose work has been recognized in both academic scholarship and international media. His literary contributions have received independent, sustained attention across multiple years and languages.

Academic References

His work is discussed in Rachel Seelig’s monograph Strangers in Berlin: Modern Jewish Literature between East and West, 1919–1933 (University of Michigan Press, 2016), which situates his writing within the broader context of Jewish literary modernism in Berlin.

Link: https://press.umich.edu/Books/S/Strangers-in-Berlin

In the Brill volume Pillars of Salt: Israelis in Berlin and Toronto (2019), Chapter 3 describes him as “one of the more prolific Israeli literates in Berlin,” underscoring his importance in diasporic Israeli writing.

Link: https://brill.com/display/book/edcoll/9789004413816/BP000014.xml

His prose piece The Berlin Prize for Hebrew Literature was included in the De Gruyter volume The German-Hebrew Dialogue (2017), edited by Amir Eshel and Rachel Seelig, confirming his direct engagement with scholarly literary discourse.

Link: https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110499620/html

Israel Studies Review (Vol. 39, Issue 3, 2024) published an article that analyzes his engagement with German literary culture and examines his role within Berlin’s Hebrew-writing community.

Link: https://www.berghahnjournals.com/view/journals/israel-studies-review/39/3/isr390309.xml

The article “The ‘return’ of a diasporic Hebrew literary culture in Berlin” (Jewish Culture and History, 2021) identifies him as a key Mizrahi author shaping the revival of Hebrew literature in Germany.

Link: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1462169X.2021.1917059

Non-Academic & Media Coverage

Haaretz (1 May 2023) featured his work prominently in an article on Hebrew writers in Berlin, presenting him as part of a historical literary moment.

Link: https://www.haaretz.com/life/books/2023-05-01/ty-article/.premium/berlins-hebrew-writers-are-making-history/00000188-7e02-dc9c-a3db-ff7b7d640000

The Jewish Independent (2023) published his essay “A Language I Do Not Speak,” in which he reflects on questions of identity, migration, and literature in Berlin.

Link: https://www.thejewishindependent.com.au/a-language-i-do-not-speak/

His curated author profile on Literaturport, Berlin’s official literary portal, confirms his recognition as an established figure within the German literary field.

Link: https://www.literaturport.de/mati-shemoelof/

He was interviewed by the New Books Network (2021) about his book The Prize (Pardes), an international platform that engages with significant new contributions to world literature.

Link: https://newbooksnetwork.com/the-prize

Conclusion

Taken together, these references demonstrate:

Independent scholarly attention from major academic presses and peer-reviewed journals.

Sustained coverage across time (2016–2024), indicating enduring relevance.

Cultural and literary impact documented in prominent international media and Berlin’s literary institutions.

The subject therefore meets the notability criteria through significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. For these reasons, the deletion proposal should be withdrawn. מתיאל (talk) 18:59, 27 August 2025 (UTC) מתיאל[reply]

Delete - while he's written lots of words, he's not gotten significant coverage about himself. Bearian (talk) 12:51, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sean Munson

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Article subject fails to meet WP:GNG, WP:NSPORT and WP:NHOOPS as a college level player for whom there is no WP:SIGCOV. Geoff | ^{Who, me?} 12:37, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Tagged with lack of notability since 2018. After a WP:BEFORE I only found about the Professor Sean A. Munson at the University of Washington's Department of Human Centered Design (which might passes in WP:SCHOLAR and worthy an article). Svartner (talk) 22:27, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per nom. SportsGuy789 (talk) 04:22, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tzadik Penimi

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The two articles that have any depth-of-coverage are clearly press releases or paid coverage (one is clearly tagged as such at the bottom). Beyond that, I don't see any independent third-party coverage to meet WP:BIO threshold. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 14:55, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep See this comment. Defenders by editor who apporved for AfC. I believe this article meets the notability threshold and the flag can be removed. This type of article is what I like to see more of in Wikipedia - lesser known professionals who have made accomplishments and have been cited for it. I learned something from this article. Bryan MacKinnon (talk) 09:15, 22 August 2025 (UTC) DoubtingJacob (talk) 15:10, 22 August 2025 (UTC) — DoubtingJacob (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Look at this article. Very insubstantial referencing but was accepted into Mainspace. Eriko Sato. DoubtingJacob (talk) 15:46, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  - Please see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:06, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. No substantial coverage except for two press releases/advertorials published in tribuneindia.com and The Times of India: [2], [3] (reprint [4]). Softlavender (talk) 20:45, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There are more https://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/tzadik_penimi

https://www.mid-day.com/amp/buzz/article/award-winning-filmmaker-tzadik-penimi-sets-sights-on-bollywood-with-dream-project-starring-shraddha-kapoor-5880

https://www.peliplat.com/es/library/celeb/pc34704432/tzadik-penimi

https://worldbizjournals.com/people/2267405/tzadik-penimi DoubtingJacob (talk) 21:56, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

None of those are independent reliable sources. All of them were generated by Penimi or his publicist. Softlavender (talk) 23:12, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You says this yet if it were Variety or The Hollywood Reporter, NY Times, etc it could be to. It's hard to know what's TRUE independent ethical journalism. Wikipedia isn't here to investigate morals and motivations. This is supposed to be a repository of free access to information. The reader is responsible for deciding what to believe. 2600:1700:1030:8C60:BCF2:56A0:6A82:27BD (talk) 02:19, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

— 2600:1700:1030:8C60:BCF2:56A0:6A82:27BD (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

What a strange comment. Those publications have editorial oversight. And no, this is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not the Yellow Pages or a collection of improperly referenced claims about living people. Drmies (talk) 02:27, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have added AppleTV and TV.nu(German streaming platform) which get information directly from distributers/studios referencing subjects associations with certain projects. This should address both notability/citation related issues. DoubtingJacob (talk) 18:05, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If need be this article can be converted to a biographical https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:SST&redirect=no DoubtingJacob (talk) 02:04, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A stub is not a valid alternative to a topic that does not meet the notability standard. "Stub" just means "very short". If you read the links you post carefully, this would be very obvious. DMacks (talk) 02:31, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If you look at several stub articles of people there are in many cases only one or some cases two references. Also in many just ImDb which I put to begin with but it was disagreed with as not an acceptable source. DoubtingJacob (talk) 02:54, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OTHERSTUFF is one of the weakest arguments possible. Please let us know those other articles that also do not meet our standards so they can be improved or deleted. But "number of references" also is not critical. It's how strong they are, for verifying notability. DMacks (talk) 04:18, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – The subject has demonstrated sufficient accomplishments to meet notability guidelines, and reliable sources can be added to improve coverage. While the article is at an initial stage of development, it has a solid foundation that can be expanded and improved over time. Deletion is premature when constructive enhancement is clearly possible. Bryan MacKinnon (talk) 01:23, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Bryan MacKinnon, it would be helpful if you had a closer look at the actual sources. Drmies (talk) 12:44, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  If the sources/references are the concern, why not tag it with refimprove? The author has shown a willingness to take suggestions and make changes. Too often, it seems that many of these deletion discussions expect an article to be highly advanced when first published rather than anticipating it will improve over time. Once nominated, the burden shifts to the article’s creator to prove it meets notability guidelines—often discouraging contributors. Bryan MacKinnon (talk) 06:32, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  When the best sources that a WP:COI SPA can come up with are press releases/promotional fluff, it seems unlikely that there are actual usuable sources in existence. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 12:38, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  
  This is feeling like ABF of the other participants here, who looked in detail at the provided refs and (at least on my part) actually looked for references ourselves. DMacks (talk) 20:13, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Although we have claims to being a key crew of many films, we don't have WP:RS about any of them or about him as a person. I'm concerned that as far as I can see none of the articles for the films to which he is reported to have contributed mentioned him until this article was created and the user-generated/unreliable-sources started pouring in. Several of the cited refs for details of certain films that are potentially reliable do not list him at all. That could be a massive omission (but one that we are stuck with following, by WP sourcing/DUE rules), or else a massive joke being played. WP:V and WP:GNG/etc are the rules we have, and we need V of the GNG/etc, not just claims of GNG/etc and V of other details associated with the claimed topics. Need at least some actual RS to prove this has a kernel of a potential article even in draft-space. DMacks (talk) 04:13, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gordon Gallery

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I would have sent this article to draft for revision but we are long outside the 90-day limit the community has agreed for that. There are two problems - much of the content in unsourced, and many of the sources are either hallucinations or fake. My preference is to draftify for improvement but otherwise I think WP:TNT applies. Mccapra (talk) 08:47, 16 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify or Stubify per WP:ATD. I agree the article is clearly in a horrible state. In poking through the sources I do think it passes WP:GNG. The clear use of a large language model is a problem. I think it would be a good idea to send this to draft and force it to undergo W:AFC review. Another alternative would be to stubify this to a few sentences based on the sources in the article.4meter4 (talk) 18:13, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Salvio giuliano

08:49, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify: Agree with 4meter4. It does meet WP:GNG, but moving to Draft will editors to revise it and remove / verify content / sources and add content from WP:RS. Asteramellus (talk) 18:29, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TNT as using AI and just plain terrible editing. I'm not against draftification and using AFC, but looking at Lookelisten's talk page, I don't have high hopes. Bearian (talk) 08:52, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Gordon Gallery, established 1966 in Tel Aviv-Yafo, is one of the oldest Art galleries in TLV. In the 1960s-1970s, the gallery represents the second generation of modernist artist in Israel, as Igael Tumarkin, Raffi Lavie, Uri Lifschitz. She was the first gallery that held Auctions. In addition, the gallery published the Hadarim poetry magazine (heb: חדרים 1981-2005) (Hebrew Entry). In addition, they printed historical avangard Pensions as Hoveret (חוברת (1974)) (Hebrew Entry). In the 2000s the gallery positioning itself as the largest art gallery in Israel, with Branches in Jerusalem and New York. Tzahy (talk) 18:28, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kidnapping of Evyatar David

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I am nominating this article for deletion per WP:ONEEVENT and the likelihood that continued coverage is unlikely once David is released. Patient Zero^talk 23:32, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: He's one of the group that got kidnapped, he's not much different than any other person in the group... Why is he more notable than any of the other hostages? We literally have nothing about this person, no backstory, not even much of a description. The article consist of when and where he was born, and famous people reacting to his kidnapping. Getting kidnapped is not notable, I'm not sure what else he's known for. Oaktree b (talk) 00:48, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oaktree b, I’m thinking of withdrawing this AfD nomination. Do you still agree with your position, and if not, would you be willing to strike your !vote? Thanks, Patient Zero^talk 23:35, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not seeing notability, a merge to the article perhaps, but not enough to withdraw it. Oaktree b (talk) 03:01, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I think he's notable in the context of the video, showing him emaciated and being forced to dig his own grave. Bearian (talk) 02:44, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Gaza war hostage crisis#Adults. Even though this kidnapping has become notable, including likely continued coverage, at present length I do not view this article as a justified SPINOFF. Knowing the dynamics: the article will be expanded and I will need to change to keep, yet redirect is my current best verdict. gidonb (talk) 04:32, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. As predicted, I would need to change my opinion soon enough, and this was the case. The kidnapping is notable by the GNG and EVENT. Given the broad media interest and by similar cases, CONTINUEDCOVERAGE is extremely likely. 1E, while an important policy, does not apply. The article is now long enough to stand on its own and merging into the parents would create UNDUE. SPINOFF is a very important and often neglected guideline. We create crazy fragmentation by not adhering to it enough. gidonb (talk) 21:35, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I now find myself agreeing with this, Gidonb. I am thinking of withdrawing the nomination. Patient Zero^talk 23:38, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for considering, User:Patient Zero. Maybe also give it a bit extra time at the next nomination. While this article started premature, so do a lot of other articles. Warnings are a better remedy if something is missing. This man has become an icon, as have many others during this bloody war. In hope of better times! 01:04, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No worries at all. Yes, I completely agree with you there! I note we now have an article on Emily Damari - I mention her because the photo of the gesture she made with her injured hand became an iconic symbol too, and I followed all the news surrounding both her kidnapping and release. I realise now upon reflection that I was too quick to nominate this article. Also hoping for better times; I know of many people personally who this has deeply affected. Patient Zero^talk 02:43, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - As I relayed at the deletion discussion for Omer Shem Tov, I am skeptical that WP:ONE EVENT should be applied to experiences that have lasted 600+ days, which is not typically the case with most events that guideline likely contemplated. Nor is it appropriate to delete the article on the speculation that coverage will cease -- let time play out, and then see what happens. (Nor, unfortunately, can it be presumed, as in the nomination, that this hostage will be released.) The article is expanding by the day, and that is entirely in keeping with regular wiki procedures -- indeed, it is the reason there is a stub-class, and then a start-class, and so-forth. Coining (talk) 18:44, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - per sources. Per continued coverage. Per WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 13:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep yes it is one event, but this particular individual and the surrounding coverage have been extensive. Also it is not entirely "one event" as now the ongoing struggles of this person have been additionally well documented and reported on by reliable sources. Iljhgtn (talk) 22:38, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per WP:NOPAGE; every paragraph in this article would fit just as well in a broader article on the hostage crisis. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:50, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – This article falls under WP:ONEEVENT. The subject has not demonstrated WP:LASTING significance, with minimal activity (only one edit in the past four days). Coverage appears to be limited and primarily sourced from a billboard display at Times Square, New York and a select few politicans commenting (Marcon, Mertz, and Lammey). The current sourcing and framing suggest an attempt to promote a specific narrative, potentially diverting attention from a broader issue such as the Gaza Strip famine. Lf8u2 (talk) 02:15, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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comment: What makes David more notable than the other Israeli prisoners seems to be the videos Hamas released of him. But I don’t know if that makes him notable enough to warrant his own article. Rainsage (talk) 17:21, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:ONEEVENT. Current content about the Hamas video showing the impact of the Gaza Strip famine on hostages can be covered in Gaza war hostage crisis#Treatment of captives. EvansHallBear (talk) 06:21, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete according to WP:ONEEVENT. There is no biographical information about the subject or the subjects significance within the crisis. The article should be merged with Gaza war hostage crisis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dualpendel (talk • contribs) 16:36, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan

State of Bengal

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no significant coverage in independent reliable source. Rht bd (talk) 20:55, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The 1,500+ word entry about him in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (ODNB) is a clear pass of WP:ANYBIO.[5] --Worldbruce (talk) 21:36, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per Worldbruce. Mccapra (talk) 02:23, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the artist seems to be notable enough in accordance with Wikipedia:Notability. Worldbruce's comment on the artist being in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography is also a strong argument. MelikaShokoufandeh (talk) 07:41, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per point 3 of WP:ANYBIO. – Ike Lek (talk) 02:36, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the ODNB entry by itself would be enough to establish notability, and his obituary in The Independent (ref [2],[6]) qualifies as significant coverage. Epsilon.Prota ^talk 17:54, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - obituary, blue plaque, and Oxford Dictionary of National Biography all show notability Zanoni (talk) 11:43, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kuwait

Ahmad Hussain Alfailakawi

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Contested draftification. This article was draftified by User:Praxidicae and was almost immediately moved back to article space. The draftification was correct, because the references are not independent. There are ten references, but nine of them are papers by the subject, and one is a faculty profile. Unilaterally draftifying this page again would be move-warring, and a consensus process is needed. The subject is probably notable, but this page should not be in article space until it can verify that notability. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:03, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify as proposer. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:07, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify so someone can clean up and fix the article. Regards, ~Rafael! (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 16:37, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify per nom. Mccapra (talk) 17:24, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Saoud Obaid Daifallah

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Declined prod. Added source is tiny mention and does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 23:13, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Kuwait at the 1968 Summer Olympics – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 00:50, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Kuwait at the 1968 Summer Olympics: Merely participating in the Olympics is no longer enough, we need to see WP:SIGCOV. Let'srun (talk) 18:42, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lebanon

Ghassan El Khatib

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As community consensus has shown, ambassadors are not inherently notable. The first source is a directory listing, the other 2 are dead. The 2 google news hits are small mentions. Fails WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 22:52, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – While ambassadors may not be inherently notable, they are presumed to be notable under WP:NPOL. If you wish to contest this, either explain why it would not apply to ambassadors, or make an RfC to seek community consensus to have it changed. Most definitions of what a politician is would apply to ambassadors, who hold a national position. Additionally, the dead link indicates coverage. – Ike Lek (talk) 23:22, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Consensus is very clear, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Humaira Hasan, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Salem Yahya Alkharejah. But you keep insisting there is inherent notability when no one agrees with you. Where is your consensus? LibStar (talk) 23:27, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My consensus is WP:NPOL, specifically this revision [6], which is a higher level of consensus than AfD. Bringing up previous AfDs is a very "other stuff doesn't exist" argument.

Also, I very clearly specified that I was not claiming inherent notability, so I would appreciate if you struck that. Ike Lek (talk) 23:46, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
inherent, presumed notability...same thing. LibStar (talk) 23:49, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No. Very much not the same thing. Ike Lek (talk) 23:50, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Previous AfDs (especially recent ones) are highly relevant as they show community consensus. You even said consensus can change, yes it can, but not evidenced in recent AfDs. You even tried an unsuccessful deletion review to desperately salvage your viewpoint on inherent/presumed notability. LibStar (talk) 23:52, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I advice you to read WP:CONLEVEL. If you believe there is consensus against the current wording of policy, then RfC is the way to address that. Ike Lek (talk) 23:58, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As stated here "If you want to debate notability standards, I advise you to bring it to a policy talk page where other editors who are interested in the subject matter can weigh in. Editors interested in developing policies and guidelines are unlikely to see an AFD discussion." LibStar (talk) 00:00, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm referencing a policy. You are referencing one editor's statement. Ike Lek (talk) 00:06, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, that supports my claim anyway. If you want to change policy, you should take it to RfC or the talk page. You are the one proposing a change and claiming that AfDs establish consensus for developing policies. I don't know why you would quote that, as it supports the notion that your previous AfDs do not impact consensus on policy. Ike Lek (talk) 00:13, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is no presumed notability for ambassadors, no matter how hard you try to wpin it or use deletion reviews to overturn delete decisions determined through consensus. LibStar (talk) 09:24, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete ambassadors do not have presumed notability and the subject fails GNG. Ckfasdf (talk) 08:12, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:BIO. Note that ambassadors are not presumed to be notable under WP:NPOL - I question the attempt to sneak in a novel policy interpretation, and don't even understand the reasoning. Here is NPOL bit by bit:

Politicians and judges Ambassadors are neither politicians nor judges as such. Some are, many are not.

who have held international, national, or (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office Ambassadorship is not a political office.

or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels. Of course, they have not done ethis either.

This also applies to people who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them. They are not elected to offices.

Major local political figures They are not local political figures.

who have received significant press coverage. Some have, many have not.

Geschichte (talk) 14:19, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't get how you claim ambassadors don't hold a political office. Ambassadors are absolutely politicians by nature of holding a political office. Can you cite a definition of politician that would exclude ambassadors? Ike Lek (talk) 16:24, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I agree with Geschichte's analysis of ambassador notability, and am slightly confused as to why @Ike Lek is citing a specific revision of WP:NPOL from 2015 containing since-removed ambassador specific material to support their assertion of consensus, while also referencing current wording of policy when discussing WP:CONLEVEL. Epsilon.Prota ^talk 17:43, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am showing when consensus was achieved that ambassadors are not excluded from WP:NPOL, and then making a WP:CONLEVEL argument for past AfDs not being able to establish a consensus overruling a policy. – Ike Lek (talk) 05:47, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per Geschichte's analysis of NPOL and a lack of sources for GNG. Politicians participate in policy-making processes which is not true for most diplomats and ambassadors. Moritoriko (talk) 07:11, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Ambassadors have no standing of presumed notability at NPOL. Fails WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 19:32, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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@Liz, how can the consensus be any "clearer". Geschichte (talk) 09:55, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletions

April 2023 Israel rocket attacks (via WP:PROD on 12 September 2003)

Oman

Cham Wings Airlines Flight 781

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Article covering an incident where a scheduled airline departed the runway at Muscat International Airport after landing. No injuries or substantial damage to the aircraft. The subject does not meet WP:NEVENT standards requiring lasting significant coverage in reliable sources, and no lasting impact or changes to procedures have been identified.

I originally redirected this article to Muscat International Airport#Accidents and incidents as a WP:ATD, however the creator reverted the change. After further reviewing the sourcing though, I don't think this incident even meets the mark for inclusion in the airport page. nf utvol (talk) 11:35, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect - I would like to avoid deletion by redirecting to Muscat International Airport#Accidents and incidents Yousuf31 (talk) 13:45, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I would normally say redirect as an WP:ATD, but it is so unremarkable that surely it will be removed at target article, and the redirect would end up on RFD. Protoeus (talk) 17:59, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Absolutely unremarkable incident, that we don't cover per NEVENT. I know of at least 3 runway excursions at my home airport that aren't even mentioned in its article for the same reason LightlySeared (talk) 19:00, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Non-notable event. This happens hundreds of times a year. –DMartin 22:22, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not meeting WP:GNG and WP:NEVENT. 95.98.65.177 (talk) 10:52, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1986 Indian Air Force An-32 disappearance

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The article is not notable WP:Notability because it lacks sufficient coverage in reliable secondary sources WP:Reliable sources. Only one source is functional, and the other is dead (404). Therefore, the article does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for events and should be considered for deletion. Yousuf31 (talk) 19:44, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Antonov An-32#Accidents and incidents which already has a brief description of the accident. Our deletion policy says to first consider alternatives to deletion before nominating an article for deletions. The Rredirection subsection states "A page can be blanked and redirected if there is a suitable page to redirect to, and if the resulting redirect is not inappropriate." --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 22:58, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Antonov An-32#Accidents and incidents – Per A.B. Svartner (talk) 23:45, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The additional sourcing posted below gets this one across the mark for notability. nf utvol (talk) 11:38, 26 August 2025 (UTC) Redirect as noted above. Acceptable ATD in this case. Also, as a note to the nominator, just being a stub is absolutely not a valid reason for deletion. nf utvol (talk) 00:19, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But it doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability... Yousuf31 (talk) 08:44, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes... But one of your stated deletion reasons was "because it's a stub" and that is in no way related to its notability. nf utvol (talk) 12:40, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is sustain coverage of this disappearance after 1986. We can add the sustain coverage to the article. Here are some sources:

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/chandigarh/indian-air-force-aircraft-missing-indian-ocean-9606370/

https://fighterjetsworld.com/air/third-indian-air-force-antonov-an-32-aircraft-disappeared-in-last-33-years/14494/

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/missing-iaf-plane-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-an-32-aircraft-331016-2016-07-24

https://www.livefistdefence.com/the-lost-the-found-a-tale-of-two-indian-antonovs/

https://www.thequint.com/news/india/previous-incidents-of-an-32-goes-missing

https://www.firstpost.com/india/missing-iaf-aircraft-brings-back-memories-of-2016-1986-incidents-when-an-32-wreckage-was-never-found-age-old-fleet-awaits-overhauling-6751171.htm Zaptain United (talk) 17:18, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the other source in the article was in 2014 so that is a secondary source. There are more secondary sources talking about the disappearance years after 1986 than when it first disappeared. Zaptain United (talk) 17:21, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Indian Express article goes into great detail on this disappearance in 2024 despite no investigation ever being conducted on this disappearance or any long-term search. Zaptain United (talk) 17:23, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I edited it Yousuf31 (talk) 14:08, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Analysis of sources presented:

Source assessment table
Source	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/chandigarh/indian-air-force-aircraft-missing-indian-ocean-9606370/			✔ Yes
https://fighterjetsworld.com/air/third-indian-air-force-antonov-an-32-aircraft-disappeared-in-last-33-years/14494/	Per Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 368#fighterjetsworld.com.		✘ No
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/missing-iaf-plane-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-an-32-aircraft-331016-2016-07-24		Only briefly mentioned.	✘ No
https://www.livefistdefence.com/the-lost-the-found-a-tale-of-two-indian-antonovs/		Only a short mention.	✘ No
https://www.thequint.com/news/india/previous-incidents-of-an-32-goes-missing#read-more		Short paragraph that doesn’t go into further details other than a retelling of the disappearance.	✘ No
https://www.firstpost.com/india/missing-iaf-aircraft-brings-back-memories-of-2016-1986-incidents-when-an-32-wreckage-was-never-found-age-old-fleet-awaits-overhauling-6751171.htm		Short mention of the disappearance.	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

We have one notability-establishing source, but per WP:GNG, we need multiple reliable independent sources that provide significant coverage of the event, and as of yet, there’s only one. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 19:14, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.firstpost.com/india/missing-iaf-aircraft-brings-back-memories-of-2016-1986-incidents-when-an-32-wreckage-was-never-found-age-old-fleet-awaits-overhauling-6751171.html here is the link for firstpost. Zaptain United (talk) 20:07, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is the link that works. Zaptain United (talk) 20:08, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the working link, I've amended the assessment. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 20:31, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
https://web.archive.org/web/20160716045112/http://www.indiastrategic.in/topstories3291_MH370_Rekindling_Memories_IAF_AN-32.htm

How about this source? It is used in the article itself. I think this is sustain coverage. Zaptain United (talk) 00:22, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could you check if this source is good? Zaptain United (talk) 02:21, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The source is pretty in-depth and appears to be reliable (and it appears to have been written by Vinod Bhatia). So all in all, there are now two sources that count towards WP:GNG. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 16:33, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP. Given other sources found. I can add the following 2

* the incident is mentioned in a list here https://thefederal.com/category/states/west/gujarat/gujarat-7-major-air-crashes-ahmedabad-boeing-accident-191620 .

* Also in this book https://www.google.se/books/edition/Without_a_Trace_1970_2016/UBOWDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=1986,+an+Antonov+An-32&pg=PT165&printsec=frontcover Dualpendel (talk) 12:00, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

None of those establish notability. Wikipedia prefers reliable and secondary sources with editorial oversight. Yousuf31 (talk) 09:23, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Not a notable incident. Apart from some initial reports and minor mentions, it has ultimately failed to meet WP:LASTING. Orientls (talk) 16:38, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable as incident. Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 07:18, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Palestine

Palestine national under-23 football team results

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Under-23 (or youth, in general) national football team result pages are not inherently notable. Nehme₁₄₉₉ 17:29, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as a valid main page split Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 18:58, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – The results are notable in the Olympic context/continental games, unlike under-20 or under-17 results. Svartner (talk) 23:26, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - I know WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS but Category:England national under-21 football team results would suggest this kind of topic can be notable. Giant Snowman 18:24, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Genocidal intent of Hamas toward Israel

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I believe this article does not meet notability guidelines. Much of the text is already discussed in Allegations of genocide in the October 7 attacks and Hamas. Parts of this article could be used to expand the Hamas page, or the Criticism of Hamas page instead: the former of which already has a section discussing Hamas' use of violence, and the latter of which already has a section discussing accusations of genocidal intent. Unless there becomes too much info both pages specifically around accusations of genocidal intent to warrant an entire new article about genocidal intent, this page feels redundant. Compare this page to the Gaza genocide article, which largely focuses on discussion and analysis of how actions constitute as genocide. Most of the content and references in this page are simply rehashing attacks which are already discussed in greater depth on other pages. Right now, there is not enough info on this page, or other Wikipedia pages, analyzing accusations of genocidal intent to warrant an entire article. Amtoastintolerant (talk) 13:28, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Besides being a fork of pre-existing articles (those already mentioned above), only 4 sources directly comment on the article's scope of "genocide" or "genocidal intent"' & the rest is either WP:SYNTH or reiterates unrelated information about Hamas. - Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 15:40, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the entire article consists of original research, and even if it didn't I believe this subject is better covered in other articles that already exist. (t · c) buidhe 22:33, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Allegations of genocide in the October 7 attacks. Despite the article stating the difference, the sources practically cover only that and other general Criticism of Hamas. SITH (talk) 16:57, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as a WP:POVFORK from Allegations of genocide in the October 7 attacks. The article was previously a WP:COATRACK of various additional criticisms of Hamas unrelated to genocidal intent, but those look to have been deleted. EvansHallBear (talk) 03:45, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this is just Allegations of genocide in the October 7 attacks Personisinsterest (talk) 18:31, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Beit Jala Lions

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Fails WP:GNG with only two sources that appear primary and one other source that is also primary as the official club website. Servite et contribuere (talk) 15:09, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Will admit I am nom, but it is 7 days since nomination. Re listing to see if a consensus can be reached. It is likely more editors will see it if a Re List happens.
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Delete per nom. ~Rafael! (He, him) • talk • guestbook • projects 17:14, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kidnapping of Evyatar David

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I am nominating this article for deletion per WP:ONEEVENT and the likelihood that continued coverage is unlikely once David is released. Patient Zero^talk 23:32, 6 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: He's one of the group that got kidnapped, he's not much different than any other person in the group... Why is he more notable than any of the other hostages? We literally have nothing about this person, no backstory, not even much of a description. The article consist of when and where he was born, and famous people reacting to his kidnapping. Getting kidnapped is not notable, I'm not sure what else he's known for. Oaktree b (talk) 00:48, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oaktree b, I’m thinking of withdrawing this AfD nomination. Do you still agree with your position, and if not, would you be willing to strike your !vote? Thanks, Patient Zero^talk 23:35, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not seeing notability, a merge to the article perhaps, but not enough to withdraw it. Oaktree b (talk) 03:01, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I think he's notable in the context of the video, showing him emaciated and being forced to dig his own grave. Bearian (talk) 02:44, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Gaza war hostage crisis#Adults. Even though this kidnapping has become notable, including likely continued coverage, at present length I do not view this article as a justified SPINOFF. Knowing the dynamics: the article will be expanded and I will need to change to keep, yet redirect is my current best verdict. gidonb (talk) 04:32, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. As predicted, I would need to change my opinion soon enough, and this was the case. The kidnapping is notable by the GNG and EVENT. Given the broad media interest and by similar cases, CONTINUEDCOVERAGE is extremely likely. 1E, while an important policy, does not apply. The article is now long enough to stand on its own and merging into the parents would create UNDUE. SPINOFF is a very important and often neglected guideline. We create crazy fragmentation by not adhering to it enough. gidonb (talk) 21:35, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I now find myself agreeing with this, Gidonb. I am thinking of withdrawing the nomination. Patient Zero^talk 23:38, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for considering, User:Patient Zero. Maybe also give it a bit extra time at the next nomination. While this article started premature, so do a lot of other articles. Warnings are a better remedy if something is missing. This man has become an icon, as have many others during this bloody war. In hope of better times! 01:04, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No worries at all. Yes, I completely agree with you there! I note we now have an article on Emily Damari - I mention her because the photo of the gesture she made with her injured hand became an iconic symbol too, and I followed all the news surrounding both her kidnapping and release. I realise now upon reflection that I was too quick to nominate this article. Also hoping for better times; I know of many people personally who this has deeply affected. Patient Zero^talk 02:43, 8 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - As I relayed at the deletion discussion for Omer Shem Tov, I am skeptical that WP:ONE EVENT should be applied to experiences that have lasted 600+ days, which is not typically the case with most events that guideline likely contemplated. Nor is it appropriate to delete the article on the speculation that coverage will cease -- let time play out, and then see what happens. (Nor, unfortunately, can it be presumed, as in the nomination, that this hostage will be released.) The article is expanding by the day, and that is entirely in keeping with regular wiki procedures -- indeed, it is the reason there is a stub-class, and then a start-class, and so-forth. Coining (talk) 18:44, 7 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - per sources. Per continued coverage. Per WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 13:14, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep yes it is one event, but this particular individual and the surrounding coverage have been extensive. Also it is not entirely "one event" as now the ongoing struggles of this person have been additionally well documented and reported on by reliable sources. Iljhgtn (talk) 22:38, 11 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per WP:NOPAGE; every paragraph in this article would fit just as well in a broader article on the hostage crisis. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:50, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – This article falls under WP:ONEEVENT. The subject has not demonstrated WP:LASTING significance, with minimal activity (only one edit in the past four days). Coverage appears to be limited and primarily sourced from a billboard display at Times Square, New York and a select few politicans commenting (Marcon, Mertz, and Lammey). The current sourcing and framing suggest an attempt to promote a specific narrative, potentially diverting attention from a broader issue such as the Gaza Strip famine. Lf8u2 (talk) 02:15, 13 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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comment: What makes David more notable than the other Israeli prisoners seems to be the videos Hamas released of him. But I don’t know if that makes him notable enough to warrant his own article. Rainsage (talk) 17:21, 19 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:ONEEVENT. Current content about the Hamas video showing the impact of the Gaza Strip famine on hostages can be covered in Gaza war hostage crisis#Treatment of captives. EvansHallBear (talk) 06:21, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete according to WP:ONEEVENT. There is no biographical information about the subject or the subjects significance within the crisis. The article should be merged with Gaza war hostage crisis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dualpendel (talk • contribs) 16:36, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Banu Hammed

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I cannot find any evidence of this group existing. The closest references I can find are to Banu Hamid in medieval Spain and Banu Hamid/Hamidi in Saudi Arabia. ComradePoppy (talk) 17:36, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This is completely unsourced and has been since 2013 when a speedy was declined, which was a shame. Banu Hammed would be the Children of Hammed and while there is a prominent UAE family name Al Hammadi, there's no 'Banu Hammad' as such in any RS I could locate (including specialist publications). There's a Qal'at Bani Hammad (also found at Qal'at Banu Hammad, because, well, transliteration's a bitch) in Algeria and some references to a Banu Hamad bedouin tribe in Northern Arabia (which would probably be related to Nom's Saudi Banu Hamid) but again, nothing of significance in RS. The Children of Hamad would be as ubiquitous in Arab nomenclature as Mr and Mrs Smith in English and unless and until someone writes a well sourced article about one or another of the various potential Banu Hamad targets, this can go. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:16, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - clearly fails WP:RS and seems to originate soley from WP:OR Grimforge (talk) 17:48, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- so far not specific SIGCOV hits in my web searches so far, found this but unsure whether or not it talks specifically about this.Lorraine Crane (talk) 15:08, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Per the previous AfD, I think it is still TOOSOON to create this article, given that construction has not yet begun. However, the article has been repeatedly recreated with questionable sourcing. As such, I wanted to bring back to AfD with a suggestion to redirect and PP for EC. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 17:21, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can it be changed to a draft article for now?? Harold9595959 (talk) 17:29, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete and Salt, due to the recreation history. If and when there is enough sourcing to show notability, an admin can allow it to be recreated. Right now it fails WP:GNG.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 21:12, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 23:26, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Locked redirect to 2034 FIFA World Cup#Venues Things can change and nine years is an absurd amount of WP:TOOSOON to even think of an article when the venue is still in planning, but we need to consider WP:ATD rather than just locking it up and dealing with title evasion to push this article through. Nathannah • 📮 23:28, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect and lock per Nathannah reasoning. Govvy (talk) 12:23, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Cham Wings Airlines Flight 781

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Article covering an incident where a scheduled airline departed the runway at Muscat International Airport after landing. No injuries or substantial damage to the aircraft. The subject does not meet WP:NEVENT standards requiring lasting significant coverage in reliable sources, and no lasting impact or changes to procedures have been identified.

I originally redirected this article to Muscat International Airport#Accidents and incidents as a WP:ATD, however the creator reverted the change. After further reviewing the sourcing though, I don't think this incident even meets the mark for inclusion in the airport page. nf utvol (talk) 11:35, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect - I would like to avoid deletion by redirecting to Muscat International Airport#Accidents and incidents Yousuf31 (talk) 13:45, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I would normally say redirect as an WP:ATD, but it is so unremarkable that surely it will be removed at target article, and the redirect would end up on RFD. Protoeus (talk) 17:59, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Absolutely unremarkable incident, that we don't cover per NEVENT. I know of at least 3 runway excursions at my home airport that aren't even mentioned in its article for the same reason LightlySeared (talk) 19:00, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Non-notable event. This happens hundreds of times a year. –DMartin 22:22, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not meeting WP:GNG and WP:NEVENT. 95.98.65.177 (talk) 10:52, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Siege of Kars (1744)

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fails WP:RS Iranian112 (talk) 03:00, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. While the cited sources are offline and not formatted well, they are WP:RS academic books. We are going to need bit more explanation/context from the nominator on this.4meter4 (talk) 03:44, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: Please see the comments on Talk:Siege of Kars (1744). You may want to consider the state of the article before and after those comments were made and compare those versions to the current one. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 05:11, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Speedy Keep per WP:SK3. Only Policy-citing nomination and WP:RS is not a reason for deletion. I will strike this comment when a more throughout nomination rationale is given. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 06:39, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ayfer Veziroğlu

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Page moved to main by COI editor (see Talk:International Association for Hydrogen Energy) over draftification. Editor is performing many promo and/or inappropriate actions on various pages including removal of tags, AI etc. This page is for a not notable CEO of an organisation. No pass of WP:NPROF, no WP:SIGCOV or pass of WP:BIO. Ldm1954 (talk) 07:40, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you Ldm1954, but the proposed article on Dr. Ayfer Veziroğlu meets the notability requirements. She is the president, top leadership and top executive at a major academic society, the International Association for Hydrogen Energy. She particularly meets criteria #6 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics) 6-The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society. Regarding the coverage note, as stated in the proposed page, you will find that her work and leadership in the International Association for Hydrogen Energy have received extensive, in-depth coverage from multiple reliable, independent sources, which are listed and detailed in the proposed wikipedia page.

I understand the concern about ai-generated content. I can assure you that I wrote this article myself, based on research I conducted from various reliable sources. I have checked and visited every single resource in this page, show me any prove of ai information, at least in this page!.

Regarding the note of me having a close connection to the subject, I declare that have no close connection to her; I am committed to improving all hydrogen related articles because hydrogen is my passion, and would welcome any and all edits from other editors to ensure it meets the highest standards of neutrality. My primary goal is for this to be a factual and encyclopedic page. HydrogenEagle (talk) 08:22, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment. The notability of International Association for Hydrogen Energy (the organisation of which she is the President and CEO) has been questioned by Cabrils, see the associated talk page. Note that "President and CEO" is a common term used for the executive director who is employed by the organization and is in charge of operations, different from being elected as President of an established notable society such as APS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ldm1954 (talk • contribs) 09:05, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The question of notability of International Association for Hydrogen Energy is an old question..I trust Wikipedia editors have the right to ask this question, but the page of International Association for Hydrogen Energy has passed this step before, when it was published and accepted in articles for creation submission (AFC)..Does the following reference satisfy your concerns about her being 'elected' as a president? https://fuelcellsworks.com/2024/10/03/h2/the-international-association-for-hydrogen-energy-has-a-new-president-and-executive-vice-presidents HydrogenEagle (talk) 11:08, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:NACADEMIC. Lacks significant coverage in independent sources, and doesn't meet any WP:SNG criteria. Suggest reporting editor to the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard if it hasn't been done already.4meter4 (talk) 11:12, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you 4meter4 for feedback, I have added more resouces to the page after editors feedbak in the deletion discussion, please check again. HydrogenEagle (talk) 07:20, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no pass of WP:Prof or WP:GNG despite the well-puffed content of the BLP. Xxanthippe (talk) 11:48, 25 August 2025 (UTC).[reply]
Thank you Xxanthippe for feedback, I have added more resouces to the page after editors feedbak in the deletion discussion, please check again. I appreciate if you point out 'the puffed content' to remove it from the page. HydrogenEagle (talk) 07:22, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. The article states that she took over as head of IAHE from her husband, its founder. To me that suggests that it is more in the nature of a family business than an academic society whose elected presidency is a significant honor. I don't think we can use WP:PROF#C6 and must fall back on other criteria. But we have no evidence of WP:GNG notability, her citation record is borderline for WP:PROF#C1 (noting that all her highly-cited articles are in the journal of the organization she runs), and I don't see anything else. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:39, 25 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you David for feedback. I have added more resources to the page after editors feedbak in the deletion discussion to show her coverage from outside the IAHE, Dr. AyferVeziroğlu's academic notability based on her publication record and high citation count (not only IAHE), from independent sources, directly addressing the concerns about WP:GNG and WP:PROF#C1.

Regarding the comment that the IAHE presidency may be 'more in the nature of a family business,' I respectfully submit that the internal governance or succession process of a professional organization is outside the scope of an encyclopedia. There is no evidence in any published source to support the claim that the IAHE is a 'family business.'. The role's significance is demonstrated by the extensive, independent coverage Dr. Ayfer Veziroğlu has received from academic journals, news outlets, and other professional bodies, as now detailed in the article. https://www.iahe.org/en/board

The notability of the subject should be judged solely on the verifiable, published record, not on speculation about the nature of her personal or professional relationships. The updated page now provides ample evidence from reliable sources to justify her inclusion. HydrogenEagle (talk) 07:54, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This person hasn’t held any notable academic positions, and her research doesn’t meet WP:PROF#C1. also, there are no reliable sources per WP:GNG, so she fail notability.Gedaali (talk) 06:15, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Battle of Diyarbakır (1511)

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fails WP:RS Iranian112 (talk) 16:40, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Support per nom. I would like to note that the sources that are cited in the article fail WP:V. R3YBOl (🌲) 22:21, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

State of Bengal

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no significant coverage in independent reliable source. Rht bd (talk) 20:55, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep The 1,500+ word entry about him in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (ODNB) is a clear pass of WP:ANYBIO.[7] --Worldbruce (talk) 21:36, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per Worldbruce. Mccapra (talk) 02:23, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep the artist seems to be notable enough in accordance with Wikipedia:Notability. Worldbruce's comment on the artist being in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography is also a strong argument. MelikaShokoufandeh (talk) 07:41, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per point 3 of WP:ANYBIO. – Ike Lek (talk) 02:36, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the ODNB entry by itself would be enough to establish notability, and his obituary in The Independent (ref [2],[6]) qualifies as significant coverage. Epsilon.Prota ^talk 17:54, 22 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - obituary, blue plaque, and Oxford Dictionary of National Biography all show notability Zanoni (talk) 11:43, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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MultiBank

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Doesn't seem to pass WP:ORG notability guidelines. All three cited sources seem to be WP:CORPTRIV. Searching online, I failed to find any WP:CORPDEPTH coverage. It appears to be yet another Forex broker. A dedicated article seems to be premature at this moment. Vgbyp (talk) 17:24, 26 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Banu Hammed

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I cannot find any evidence of this group existing. The closest references I can find are to Banu Hamid in medieval Spain and Banu Hamid/Hamidi in Saudi Arabia. ComradePoppy (talk) 17:36, 20 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This is completely unsourced and has been since 2013 when a speedy was declined, which was a shame. Banu Hammed would be the Children of Hammed and while there is a prominent UAE family name Al Hammadi, there's no 'Banu Hammad' as such in any RS I could locate (including specialist publications). There's a Qal'at Bani Hammad (also found at Qal'at Banu Hammad, because, well, transliteration's a bitch) in Algeria and some references to a Banu Hamad bedouin tribe in Northern Arabia (which would probably be related to Nom's Saudi Banu Hamid) but again, nothing of significance in RS. The Children of Hamad would be as ubiquitous in Arab nomenclature as Mr and Mrs Smith in English and unless and until someone writes a well sourced article about one or another of the various potential Banu Hamad targets, this can go. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:16, 21 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - clearly fails WP:RS and seems to originate soley from WP:OR Grimforge (talk) 17:48, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- so far not specific SIGCOV hits in my web searches so far, found this but unsure whether or not it talks specifically about this.Lorraine Crane (talk) 15:08, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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MySyara

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Fails WP:NCORP due to the lack of reliable sources on the subject. The previous AfD discussion was closed with "no consensus" but brought up concerns of the quality of reliable sourcing used in the article. At the time of writing, the majority of the cited sources are routine business announcements, such as financing developments (ref 11, 12, 13, 14, 18, 24), acquisitions (ref 7, 8, 9, 10, 19, 20, 21), and business partnerships (ref 15, 16, 25, 26), that fail WP:CORPDEPTH.

Regarding the other, more substantial cited sources: Gheus noted in the discussion that ref 1 contains a disclosure for a paid article; the bulk of ref 2 is an interview with the CEO; and much of the text of ref 4 is based on the outlet's interview with the co-founders (e.g., "according to the business partners"). Bridget (talk) 13:33, 10 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep – Per @Goodboyjj: sources in the first AfD, looks enough for WP:NCORP. Svartner (talk) 06:54, 23 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There were sources identified in the first AFD that passed WP:NCORP. I'd be willing to change my mind if someone creates a source analysis table as directed at WP:SIRS and demonstrates through detailed analysis that WP:ORGCRIT isn't met by analyzing both those sources and the ones present in the article in detail.4meter4 (talk) 13:57, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
4meter4, there are some immediately apparent concerns with those sources. Goodboyjj, the article creator, presented these links with the claim that they "establish notability", and that claim was not really analyzed or challenged during the AfD. Here is a source assessment table:

Source assessment table prepared by User:Bridget
Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Forbes Middle East		WP:TRADES applies, as a business magazine associated with the Forbes brand	Forbes 30 Under 30 list entry honoring the founders and providing a brief business history	✘ No
The National News	WP:INTERVIEW applies; as mentioned in the AfD rationale above and that of the previous AfD, the article content (not including the Q&A at the end of the article) heavily draws from the outlet's interview with the co-founders. Uses phrases such as "according to the business partners".	but note that this is a state-owned newspaper and, per Financial Times, "is seen as a mouthpiece for Abu Dhabi's worldview."		✘ No
Middle East Business		WP:TRADES applies	WP:CORPTRIV applies, routine coverage of business development (based on company announcement); the lead states: "MySyara today announced plans to expand its operations and launch a new suite of services, aiming to provide car owners with more convenient and affordable ways to manage their vehicle maintenance and repair services." (original text in Arabic)	✘ No
Experience Abu Dhabi		travel blog which states in its website description: "Discover top Abu Dhabi attractions, events, dining, and travel guides."	WP:CORPTRIV applies, routine coverage of business development (based on company announcement): "MySyara’s full range on-demand services will be made available to customers in Abu Dhabi"	✘ No
Jawlah			WP:CORPTRIV applies, routine coverage of business developments; reports that "Car maintenance app MySyara secures $400,000 investment" (original text in Arabic)	✘ No
Zawya	marked as press release from company	WP:TRADES applies; "ZAWYA by LSEG is a leading and trusted source of regional business and financial news and intelligence for millions of professionals across the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and other parts of the Middle East and Africa."	WP:CORPTRIV applies, routine coverage of business developments: "MySyara launches the first cloud garage network in the UAE in partnership with Mobil UAE"	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

Bridget (talk) 15:43, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bridget This is a good start. I suggest continuing with the many other materials currently cited in the article. I'll hold off responding until you are finished. Ping me when your source analysis is complete. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:54, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@4meter4: In this AfD, 32 sources have been shown to not contribute to a GNG pass. What other (SIRS) sources would you base your keep vote on, given we've looked at the ones you're citing from the previous AfD? Bridget (talk) 16:40, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bridget you have not provided specific reasoning for 32 sources in a meaningful way; only the five listed in the table. If you wish to cite WP:CORPDEPTH as a rationale you actually need to do a SIRS analysis for every source in the table. Listing a bunch of sources in your nomination and then vaguely nodding towards CORPDEPTH without actually doing a proper SIRS analysis isn't going to cut it. It doesn't sufficiently explain your thinking. If you want to claim CORPDEPTH put it in the table and give us a real analysis of why it doesn't meet SIRS. There's a reason why we have the table at that guideline. Use it to your advantage. Best.4meter4 (talk) 16:46, 24 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Yemen

[:72-1] Dearden, Lizzie; Landler, Mark (2025-06-06). "U.K. Faces 'Extraordinary' Threat From Russian and Iranian Plots, Official Warns". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2025-06-28.

[2] "UK launches Foreign Influence Registration Scheme". United Kingdom Government.

[3] "Client Challenge". www.ft.com. Retrieved 2025-08-20.

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